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Cheap, simple and effective! I like.

I'm tempted to come along myself, all the way from Bristol.

How about doing something to symbolise all the children who haven't been born due to the housing boom? Rocking some empty cradles, or something like that.

How about:

A priced out generation = A generation lost

Baby boomer riches = No baby boom (should be a better play on words in there somewhere).

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Please, please, please, make sure the protest in some way makes reference to Animal Farm - it's a brilliant allegory by George Orwell in which some pigs are more equal than others - thats according to the pigs. Sound familiar?

This is a serious point I am making, and I would urge you all to read the book before the demonstrations - this Labor govenrment have imposed socialist doctrine to 'save the masses' and in doing so they have rubber ducked the younger generation. Greed and self interest are behind the housing and pensions scandal and, as you are all starting to realise, there is nothing more greedy than todays pensioners who think the rest of Britain owes them four vacations a year, free health care, free dental care, state pensions, plus a free bus pass. Frank Fields told us all in the 1980s on World In Action that demographics would cripple the younger generation in Britain and the pigs decided to ignore the message. What you all now know is the buck has been passed to you by people of influence who have nice fat pensions provided by the state.

Animal farm was written by Orwell to reflect the twisted politics of socialist states like Russia, it's therefore ironic to see the lesson was appropriate for supposedly democratic countries like the UK and USA. The real lesson is this: pigs behave like pigs wherever they stick their snouts.

I hope the the demonstration is the start of a national backlash against those who ramped houseprices using a mix of poor fiscal policy and land development controls. As I've said before, rioting will take place if youngsters and non-house owners are not treated fairly. Remember, house price escalation adds no intrinsic value and is merely wealth transfer to people higher in the house price chain. Where is the fairness in that? It stinks as much as the corrupt house of lords ruling against Equitable Life in favor of pensioners with annuity gurantees. Of couse at least one Law Lord turned out to have a guarantee with equitable which means he ruled on a case despite having the 'potential for bias'. Thats British Justice!

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Please, please, please, make sure the protest in some way makes reference to Animal Farm - it's a brilliant allegory by George Orwell in which some pigs are more equal than others - thats according to the pigs. Sound familiar?

This is a serious point I am making, and I would urge you all to read the book before the demonstrations - this Labor govenrment have imposed socialist doctrine to 'save the masses' and in doing so they have rubber ducked the younger generation. Greed and self interest are behind the housing and pensions scandal and, as you are all starting to realise, there is nothing more greedy than todays pensioners who think the rest of Britain owes them four vacations a year, free health care, free dental care, state pensions, plus a free bus pass. Frank Fields told us all in the 1980s on World In Action that demographics would cripple the younger generation in Britain and the pigs decided to ignore the message. What you all now know is the buck has been passed to you by people of influence who have nice fat pensions provided by the state.

Animal farm was written by Orwell to reflect the twisted politics of socialist states like Russia, it's therefore ironic to see the lesson was appropriate for supposedly democratic countries like the UK and USA. The real lesson is this: pigs behave like pigs wherever they stick their snouts.

I hope the the demonstration is the start of a national backlash against those who ramped houseprices using a mix of poor fiscal policy and land development controls. As I've said before, rioting will take place if youngsters and non-house owners are not treated fairly. Remember, house price escalation adds no intrinsic value and is merely wealth transfer to people higher in the house price chain. Where is the fairness in that? It stinks as much as the corrupt house of lords ruling against Equitable Life in favor of pensioners with annuity gurantees. Of couse at least one Law Lord turned out to have a guarantee with equitable which means he ruled on a case despite having the 'potential for bias'. Thats British Justice!

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Please, please, please, make sure the protest in some way makes reference to Animal Farm - it's a brilliant allegory by George Orwell in which some pigs are more equal than others - thats according to the pigs. Sound familiar?

If you are educated in the UK, there is a 90% chance you had to read the book as part of our secondary = high school education...

Its on the curriculum... curriculum being what our Left Wing, Lesbo, Pot smoking, English Teachers force children two read. Well in my case anyway.

Nothing wrong with that sterotype, just I am Better at maths and science than english.....

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How about:

A priced out generation = A generation lost

Baby boomer riches = No baby boom (should be a better play on words in there somewhere).

The first one is pretty good.

The Goya painting 'Satan devouring his son' represents well what the boomers are collectively doing.

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I saw it used on a blog about intergenerational inequity - unfortunately I can't remember the Web address.

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How about doing something to symbolise all the children who haven't been born due to the housing boom? Rocking some empty cradles, or something like that.

How about purchasing a couple of wendy houses.

It will make good visuals for the TV/Papers

With the comment:

If we don't sort out the UK housing Problem

This will be as close as the next generation can ever be to owning a home

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To be honest this is a waste of time, there is no votes in making housing affordable or helping young people, in fact any politician just opens himself up to a world of pain from the nimbies and associated 'green' power blocks. Remember that we no longer have statesmen in this country just craven managerial vote chasers.

The choice is to either play the game or leave the country.

P.S. If only you hadn't bought that £100 iPod you could have bought Charlie's £400k house :P

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To be honest this is a waste of time, there is no votes in making housing affordable or helping young people, in fact any politician just opens himself up to a world of pain from the nimbies and associated 'green' power blocks. Remember that we no longer have statesmen in this country just craven managerial vote chasers.

The choice is to either play the game or leave the country.

P.S. If only you hadn't bought that £100 iPod you could have bought Charlie's £400k house :P

Maybe,

But still, it'll be a good larf, that's why im thinking of going :D

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Please, please, please, make sure the protest in some way makes reference to Animal Farm - it's a brilliant allegory by George Orwell in which some pigs are more equal than others - thats according to the pigs. Sound familiar?

Pigs are quite interesting, when food is poured into the trough the fat old porkers crowd out everyone else and really make 'pigs' of themselves. The little squealers are left with what little scraps remain at the end.

Very few animals behave in this way.

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Maybe,

Two words, "tuition fees".

It gets worse, NuLabour actually introduced them in direct contradiction to their manifesto. Nobody gives a flying f**k about you, that may sound harsh but the sooner people wake up and smell the coffee the better, 'there is no such thing as society', Gordy as PM will only confirm this sad fact.

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To be honest this is a waste of time, there is no votes in making housing affordable or helping young people, in fact any politician just opens himself up to a world of pain from the nimbies and associated 'green' power blocks.

I would disagree. Are you old enough to recall the poll tax riots? That was the end of the Conservatives and in particular Maggie and her drunken husband and corrupt, gun running son.

I think this should be the start of a concerted effort by youngsters to ensure the government take their rights more seriously. Instead of drunken brawls on a friday evening we should see just desserts for the inequity caused by house price inflation

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Nobody gives a flying f**k about you, that may sound harsh but the sooner people wake up and smell the coffee the better, 'there is no such thing as society', Gordy as PM will only confirm this sad fact.

If there's one thing Politicians understand it's when the political winds are changing, and what voters care about.

Putting pressure on MP's regarding housing is no bad thing, it's about time they had counter-pressure to the NIMBY's. To date there has been massive disaffection on this issue and no focal point. This is the chance to create it, and to bring people and the media's attention to this issue in a major way. I think our campaign has put together a set of themes that most people in the general public find it very hard to disagree with; no to speculation, no to owning half a house, no to liar loans/massive multiples, and yes to making sure there's enough family homes to go around.

If nothing else it's a chance to let Gordon know just how upset you are at his handling of the housing market, it might even be cathartic for a jaundiced old bear like yourself :P

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it might even be cathartic for a jaundiced old bear like yourself :P

But he only a baby bear in his mid 20s. ;)

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To be honest this is a waste of time, there is no votes in making housing affordable or helping young people, in fact any politician just opens himself up to a world of pain from the nimbies and associated 'green' power blocks. Remember that we no longer have statesmen in this country just craven managerial vote chasers.

The choice is to either play the game or leave the country.

P.S. If only you hadn't bought that £100 iPod you could have bought Charlie's £400k house :P

What a defeatist attitude!

The nimbies are not in the majority, they are just well organised, well funded and mobilised.

The priced out generation need to take a leaf out of the nimby's book and make their voices heard. They represent so much more of a worthy cause.

Good luck to all those attending on Sunday. It's a bit far for me and I'm a bit too busy working, but I'll be watching with interest.

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He and his final salary scheme have got me by the nuts :ph34r:

You are quite welcome to my company pension from my days in the print. I have just been informed that from the 1st February 2008 I will receive a weekly pension of £3-75p per week. :P

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What a defeatist attitude!

The nimbies are not in the majority, they are just well organised, well funded and mobilised.

70% of people are OO'ers and will do anything to retain their notional 'equity', that means opposing all forms of development.

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70% of people are OO'ers and will do anything to retain their notional 'equity', that means opposing all forms of development.

Is BuyingBear a house owning mole? There is contrarian and there's mole-contrarian.

I suspect his views are born of self interest and fear there is change in the wind.

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70% of people are OO'ers and will do anything to retain their notional 'equity', that means opposing all forms of development.

The bulk of them have kids and are worried about their prospects, as evidenced by the surprising amount of O/O's who have signed up at Priced Out.

Many of have them have kids stuck at home, or having to put their hands into the pocket to fund their home purchases.. not popular either.

Others we can appeal to the fact their next home has become more expensive. There are a lot of angles people haven't thought about regarding their homes and we aim to reach them.

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