Unemployment?

[scaramanga]

what with yesterdays announcement that 3000 jobs are going to be lost at the beeb and many other job losses having been announced already how much longer do you think that the unemployment figures can be massaged to show "full" employment i think we did see a small rise in november is this because the fiddling days of the stats are at an end or a "seasonal" adjustment...surely there can only be a certain amount of sickness benefit paid out someone somewhere must be doing the sums and will politically bring an end to the sickie scam

[rockdoctor]

It's been like this since time immemorial; the press report jobs being 'lost' in large lumps (actually the beeb are outsourcing a lot of the work of the people being laid off - so the employees will take off their BBC hats, put on their contractor hats, and collect more cash), and fail to report the steady trickle of recruitment that goes on in the background.

Headline job losses are far less relevant than unemployment stats.

[Killer Bunny]

David Smith at the Sunday Times likes to talk about GDP growth and low unemploymentas to wht houses will not crash. He needs to wake up to reality. India and China are producing 4 million IT graduates EVERY year! Call centre jobs are being exported there monthly. As the economy slows due to falling government and consumer demand he must know that unemplyment will rise.

The BBC thing is just the tip of the iceberg

[Timmy Manson]

David Smith at the Sunday Times likes to talk about GDP growth and low unemploymentas to wht houses will not crash.

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2.7m people on sickness benefit, 8m people 'economically inactive' ...... they simply catagorise people out of unemployment.

3% economic growth, but only 1% private sector, the economy is growing because government spending is growing, in the short term this means more borrowing in the long term higher taxes.

[sneaky_snookems]

I read somewhere the other day that although child poverty has fallen from around 4.2m to 3.6m that poverty amoung 25-35 year olds has risen from 3.6 to 4.2 million.

Just shows that wages and employment are not as good as some choose to believe.

[Guest Charlie The Tramp]

It's been like this since time immemorial; the press report jobs being 'lost' in large lumps..................Headline job losses are far less relevant than unemployment stats.

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The last time the press and media reported lost jobs with such regularity, we ended up with 3 million official unemployed. Not very far back is 1979, when the first trimming of the surplus became the norm, but it is different this time, isn`t it?

[Kirsty Buy-At-The-Top]

Stop paying their housing benefit - then we will see just how sick they really are.

There are jobs in warehouses and supermarkets that any muppet can do.

As soon as you take away the nanny state and make people stand on their own two feet, well, we might start getting a bit of pride back into the UK rather than all these moaning workshy dossers who have never done a hard days work in their life.

[Guest Charlie The Tramp]

rather than all these moaning workshy dossers who have never done a hard days work in their life.

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Don`t forget those who spend their employer`s paid time on the net.

[zzg113]

As soon as you take away the nanny state and make people stand on their own two feet, well, we might start getting a bit of pride back into the UK rather than all these moaning workshy dossers who have never done a hard days work in their life.

Like property speculators and landlords you mean?

[Kirsty Buy-At-The-Top]

Like property speculators and landlords you mean?

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Why on earth do you think being a landlord is not hard work? Where is BBB? Obviously turfing out some tenant who is in arrears with his rent. One thing's for sure if he isn't here he must be working.

[zzg113]

Yeah, I'm sure collecting the rent every month is a real burden.