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Meanwhile 15 year old boys are gunned down on our streets in cold blood.

Thank god we live in our NuLabour socialist utopia, where everything is perfect, where the NHS works like a dream and ill health banished, where each school produces their nobel prize winner, where the roads are clear and perfect and where the rail services are clean, punctual, fast and cheap to use, after our gracious government has achieved all that they can now concern themselves with bike bells, clearly there is nothing else for them to do, they have triumphed on all fronts and succeed in everything they do.

2 years for not having a bike bell? Someone could carry a knife or illegal firearm and deal drugs and get off more lightly than that.

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You get on the spot fines, and in the worst case 2 years in jail or a fine of £2500. "Barmy" doesn't really begin to describe it.

Don't forget that from September 18th 2006, children under the age of 12 must sit in a booster seat if travelling by car. Failure to comply can result in a £30 fine (£500 if it goes to court)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8123-2347558,00.html

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Don't forget that from September 18th 2006, children under the age of 12 must sit in a booster seat if travelling by car. Failure to comply can result in a £30 fine (£500 if it goes to court)

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,8123-2347558,00.html

.....and passengers will have to be fully restrained with leg-irons and straight jacket,and gagged during transit,as it's now known that any kind of conversation or distraction to the driver heightens the chances of an accident.

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Don't forget that from September 18th 2006, children under the age of 12 must sit in a booster seat if travelling by car. Failure to comply can result in a £30 fine (£500 if it goes to court)

I get the feeling you're trying to portray this as Nanny State/European regulations gone mad.

In my job I know it's just a matter of time before I have to drag a dead four year old out of a crashed car after they've been garotted by their adult seat belt. However, I've warned dozens of parents who then stare stupidly at the belt passing in front of their child's windpipe while I ask them to imagine the consequences of a sudden stop from 50 mph which will most likely leave them with significant chest injuries. A £30 fine is an ideal way to focus the mind.

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You get on the spot fines, and in the worst case 2 years in jail or a fine of £2500. "Barmy" doesn't really begin to describe it.

Best to get drunk and run someone over with your car. You'll get treated more leniently.

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Best to get drunk and run someone over with your car. You'll get treated more leniently.

Even better, if you're a pissed illegal immigrant who is unlicensed and driving an uninsured, untaxed and unregistered car without an MOT, well, you're then guaranteed residency.

Sorry, was somebody saying something about bike bells?

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Has Blair finally found something positive he can be remembered for or is he just pulling our leg-acy?

Bicycle bell crackdown has a ring of the nanny state, Telegraph

I posed a question to our resident NuLabour fan about what they had actually acheived after Prezza's white paper on transport in year 2000/2001. I think we have the answer.

2 years in prison - I ask you!

Anybody fancy selling a device that shouts "****** off out the way you dozy c**t" instead?

Britain - you are becoming a bigger joke every day.

btp

Even better, if you're a pissed illegal immigrant who is unlicensed and driving an uninsured, untaxed and unregistered car without an MOT, well, you're then guaranteed residency.

Sorry, was somebody saying something about bike bells?

Here's another....

btp

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I get the feeling you're trying to portray this as Nanny State/European regulations gone mad.

In my job I know it's just a matter of time before I have to drag a dead four year old out of a crashed car after they've been garotted by their adult seat belt. However, I've warned dozens of parents who then stare stupidly at the belt passing in front of their child's windpipe while I ask them to imagine the consequences of a sudden stop from 50 mph which will most likely leave them with significant chest injuries. A £30 fine is an ideal way to focus the mind.

Yes, I do think this is an example of the Nanny State. I don't see why the example you give is not covered by the current law. I don't believe there is a law that specifically forbids me strapping my children to my roof rack and heading off down the motorway, but would expect to get stopped and arrested if I decided to drive in this fashion. The new law assumes I am incapable of deciding how best to seat my children whilst they are passengers in my car.

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Here's another....

btp

The mother of a boy killed by a hit-and-run driver said she is "devastated and shocked" the man responsible is to have his prison sentence reduced.

Callum Oakford, nine, died after being hit by a car being driven by Kamel Kadri at Ferring in West Sussex.

Kadri, an illegal immigrant, had no insurance or tax and was jailed for eight months for driving offences.

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Meanwhile 15 year old boys are gunned down on our streets in cold blood.

Though, you'd think the mother would realise that calling the kid Jessie James gives him rather an outlaw heritage to live up to.... It's no surprise when you grow up to be shot.

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This is just another strike in the war against cyclists. Cyclists pay disproportionately less tax (fuel, maintenance, parking, etc) than other road users and need to be oppressed whenever possible. :angry:

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Meanwhile 15 year old boys are gunned down on our streets in cold blood.

It was a case of mistaken identity and they didn't expect there to be two 15 year olds lurking a park at 2.30am.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/5329696.stm

Jessie James was gunned down in the early hours of Saturday close to a public park in Moss Side.

Do all 15 year olds stay out all night?

Edited by SarahBell

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