Jump to content
House Price Crash Forum
Sign in to follow this  
GCS15

After A Book

Recommended Posts

I'm after a book that was mentioned on this site many many moons ago. The basic premis of this book was that economies(or nations) collapse when the unproductive in society exceed the productive (or something like that)

Thanks in advance

:)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Shedfish

wasn't she Greenspan's cluck buddy?

wasn't being funny... just mentioned in a book i'm reading... too pissed to go check

Edited by Shedfish

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You are either thinking of "The Collapse of Complex Societies" (1988) by Joseph Tainter

http://dieoff.org/page134.htm

Wikipedia

or "Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change" (1980) by William Catton

http://dieoff.org/page15.htm

both similar, terrifying and ineluctable treatises that we, like all creatures, are subject to the Laws of Nature and the Laws of Thermodynamics, and just as bacteria in a petri dish "bloom and crash", so will we....

We have bloomed since the discovery of oil in 1859 (population quintupled, supported entirely by oil-based food, energy, transport, pharmaceuticals and plastics), on what Catton perceptively descibes as "phantom acreage", and are now, as Tainter identifies, too "complex" to survive, with diminishing marginal returns.

Consider our future as described by an observer from a higher intelligence life-form...

http://dieoff.org/page89.htm

"It was thus becoming apparent that nature must, in the not far distant future, institute bankruptcy proceedings against industrial civilization, and perhaps against the standing crop of human flesh, just as nature had done many times to other detritus-consuming species following their exuberant expansion in response to the savings deposits their ecosystems had accumulated before they got the opportunity to begin the drawdown..." - Catton

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You are either thinking of "The Collapse of Complex Societies" (1988) by Joseph Tainter

http://dieoff.org/page134.htm

Wikipedia

or "Overshoot: The Ecological Basis of Revolutionary Change" (1980) by William Catton

http://dieoff.org/page15.htm

both similar, terrifying and ineluctable treatises that we, like all creatures, are subject to the Laws of Nature and the Laws of Thermodynamics, and just as bacteria in a petri dish "bloom and crash", so will we....

We have bloomed since the discovery of oil in 1859 (population quintupled, supported entirely by oil-based food, energy, transport, pharmaceuticals and plastics), on what Catton perceptively descibes as "phantom acreage", and are now, as Tainter identifies, too "complex" to survive, with diminishing marginal returns.

Consider our future as described by an observer from a higher intelligence life-form...

http://dieoff.org/page89.htm

"It was thus becoming apparent that nature must, in the not far distant future, institute bankruptcy proceedings against industrial civilization, and perhaps against the standing crop of human flesh, just as nature had done many times to other detritus-consuming species following their exuberant expansion in response to the savings deposits their ecosystems had accumulated before they got the opportunity to begin the drawdown..." - Catton

Surely in those circumstances house prices would HAVE TO go down? ;)

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...
Sign in to follow this  

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.

  • 301 Brexit, House prices and Summer 2020

    1. 1. Including the effects Brexit, where do you think average UK house prices will be relative to now in June 2020?


      • down 5% +
      • down 2.5%
      • Even
      • up 2.5%
      • up 5%



×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

We have placed cookies on your device to help make this website better. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue.