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'About two-thirds of families who have asked for tax credit overpayments to be written off because of administrative error have had their cases dismissed, the BBC has learned.'

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/5275036.stm

Thes are the people who are on a tight budget and the additonal payouts were known years ago, the crdit screw is getting tightened.

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And so they should be refused.

That is hard earnt taxpayers money, that could be well spent in Hospitals caring for sick and injured children currently denied treatment by the New Labour Party's Health Cutbacks.

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And so they should be refused.

That is hard earnt taxpayers money, that could be well spent in Hospitals caring for sick and injured children currently denied treatment by the New Labour Party's Health Cutbacks.

Hard earned tax money given out expensively and wastefully. It isn't these people's fault that this was an ill thought out benefit. It is the biggest load of rubbish I've ever seen.

Its been massively defrauded because of the same way its incomprehensible to honest people.

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The phrase 'hard earned tax payers' always makes me laugh. Just as does 'wasteful spending'. The government has a real role in society, and that is to do those things that some or often most people don't like. It annoys me greatly that we don't collect more in income tax and less in indirect taxation. The sheeple think it's bad when income tax goes up, but fail to see that they are still paying tax in other ways (why 5% for insurance, for example?).

As another example, the government should and must step in to control the housing market. Houses are for people to live in, not as investments. But as they have moved more to the evil Thatcherite view that the free market, unchecked, is the only way to move forward so we end up in this mess.

They have never replaced the council houses so triumphantly sold off by the Tories. They could have used the receipts to build more houses. But no, that's a socialist policy, and we don't want that.

Well, people of Britain, if you think such socialist policies are old fashioned and not for a modern economy, you are more stupid and blinkered that I thought possible. If the government doesn't force more houses to be built to meet the growing demand what do you think you'll get? Combine that with loose financial controls and you get the insane house price inflation.

It don't bother me! I have a house. But in a few years my kids will want to have a house of their own.

I'm sorry but I hate Thatcherism. It has done this country no good at all -- we all think we are more propserous, but you can't move on the roads, and you have to pay for everything now. Get more government back into our society, not less. And increase the democratic mandate (by changing the voting system to make politics more representative and so more likely to have an effect).

Otherwise let the free market control house prices and hence who can buy them. Your choice, people of Britain!

[ I think I'll go and have a lie down now!! ]

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Hard earned tax money given out expensively and wastefully. It isn't these people's fault that this was an ill thought out benefit. It is the biggest load of rubbish I've ever seen.

Its been massively defrauded because of the same way its incomprehensible to honest people.

A friend works in the govt. dept. of unemployment and benefits (maybe called something different) and warned me of this 2/3 years ago.

Once again they knew what they were doing.

Bummer Heh!

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And so they should be refused.

That is hard earnt taxpayers money, that could be well spent in Hospitals caring for sick and injured children currently denied treatment by the New Labour Party's Health Cutbacks.

It'll be spent on new offices for MPs, civil servants pensions, or buying bombs to kill people in a far of land. Don't fall for the lie that every tax is to pay for the NHS, and that a cut in any tax would only affect the NHS.

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there are 2 schools of thought about government and tax.

The first school believes YOU are the best person to spend YOUR money, and you should therefore only be forced to spend it against your will in a minority of cases.

The second school believes that a bunch of people you have never met and probably didn't vote for are better placed to spend YOUR money, using a system of many layers all of which dilute the effectiveness of your money.

I know which school I belong to.

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there are 2 schools of thought about government and tax.

The first school believes YOU are the best person to spend YOUR money, and you should therefore only be forced to spend it against your will in a minority of cases.

The second school believes that a bunch of people you have never met and probably didn't vote for are better placed to spend YOUR money, using a system of many layers all of which dilute the effectiveness of your money.

I know which school I belong to.

We all know which school you belong to and we can't wait for you to go back. Roll on 4th September.

Why didn't your mum book you on a course eh?

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The phrase 'hard earned tax payers' always makes me laugh. Just as does 'wasteful spending'. The government has a real role in society, and that is to do those things that some or often most people don't like. It annoys me greatly that we don't collect more in income tax and less in indirect taxation. The sheeple think it's bad when income tax goes up, but fail to see that they are still paying tax in other ways (why 5% for insurance, for example?).

As another example, the government should and must step in to control the housing market. Houses are for people to live in, not as investments. But as they have moved more to the evil Thatcherite view that the free market, unchecked, is the only way to move forward so we end up in this mess.

They have never replaced the council houses so triumphantly sold off by the Tories. They could have used the receipts to build more houses. But no, that's a socialist policy, and we don't want that.

Well, people of Britain, if you think such socialist policies are old fashioned and not for a modern economy, you are more stupid and blinkered that I thought possible. If the government doesn't force more houses to be built to meet the growing demand what do you think you'll get? Combine that with loose financial controls and you get the insane house price inflation.

It don't bother me! I have a house. But in a few years my kids will want to have a house of their own.

I'm sorry but I hate Thatcherism. It has done this country no good at all -- we all think we are more propserous, but you can't move on the roads, and you have to pay for everything now. Get more government back into our society, not less. And increase the democratic mandate (by changing the voting system to make politics more representative and so more likely to have an effect).

Otherwise let the free market control house prices and hence who can buy them. Your choice, people of Britain!

[ I think I'll go and have a lie down now!! ]

Mrs Thatcher's own economic "miracle" was due largely to a fire-sale of Britain's physical assets - not just the nationalised industries, but the housing and the mineral wealth in the North Sea. Now all those one-off once-only inflows have dried up, it is harder to mask Britain's inexorable decline. Gordy has tried with smoke and mirrors - inflation - the old Labour way.

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I appreciate the interest free loan that HM govt. has passed my way. I have very generous repayment terms - the "repayments" actually reduce each year as my income goes up.

Unless I start to reproduce in a rabbit-like fashion, I think it unlikely that I will ever pay the loan off. This means that an element of it is a de facto gift.

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And so they should be refused.

That is hard earnt taxpayers money, that could be well spent in Hospitals caring for sick and injured children currently denied treatment by the New Labour Party's Health Cutbacks.

I don't agree. The government gave money to people who believed they were entitled to it (that is what they were told by the government itself)

Now, years down the line after careful family budgets are formed into a particular arrangement the government comes along and demands payment of a large sum of money.

No chance. The government will not get this money back and I'll bet that not a single county court judgement will impose any forced repayment schemes on those families affected.

Another thought occured to me. Could this be helicopter money in sheeps clothing?

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I don't agree. The government gave money to people who believed they were entitled to it (that is what they were told by the government itself)

Now, years down the line after careful family budgets are formed into a particular arrangement the government comes along and demands payment of a large sum of money.

No chance. The government will not get this money back and I'll bet that not a single county court judgement will impose any forced repayment schemes on those families affected.

Another thought occured to me. Could this be helicopter money in sheeps clothing?

The courts don't decide it's automatically deducted at source.

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I don't agree. The government gave money to people who believed they were entitled to it (that is what they were told by the government itself)

Now, years down the line after careful family budgets are formed into a particular arrangement the government comes along and demands payment of a large sum of money.

No chance. The government will not get this money back and I'll bet that not a single county court judgement will impose any forced repayment schemes on those families affected.

Another thought occured to me. Could this be helicopter money in sheeps clothing?

I agree with you. If the government with their hoards of public servants cannot make a policy that is easy to administer then why must the public pay for their mistakes. Let this be a lesson to this government and its called accountability.

No good looking around for scapegoats because you cocked it up. I hope they dont get one penny back.

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When I first had to fill in one of these forms, using my p60, investment income and the wife's, I got back a summary from them for the basis of calculations, which went something like this:

Your total income for previous year: £0.00

Your partners " " " : £0.00

Total receivable in tax credits: £5,800

I think it is impossible to have a zero income (even benefit passing through a current account would pick up a few pennies interest, yet their system was still able to produce this kind of rubbish. Did this not flag up as being unlikely and go for checking v. my NI number and p60? Obviously not.

It would have been immoral and criminal to have accepted this mistake, so I did the honourable thing and contacted them.

I still received some cards through the post entitling us to free prescriptions - I completely forgot to return them! ;)

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