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LONDON (AFX) -
The arrival of east Europeans has pushed the population of the United Kingdom above the 60 mln mark
for the first time ever, the statistics office said today.
It revealed that the population increase accelerated in the year to mid-2005 by 0.6 pct, its fastest rate since 1965.
The 375,000 rise took the total to 60.2 mln. The rise in numbers was the highest since 1962.
The rise in the year to mid-2005 compares with a 0.5 pct rise in the year to mid-2004 and a 0.4 pct average over the five years between 1999 and 2004 and 0.3 pct in the ten years to 1999.
The statistics office said the main factor behind the increase was net international migration, which is the difference between migration into and out of the UK. This rose from 167,000 in 2003/4 to 235,000 in 2004/5.
This was the highest level since estimates of total international migration were first produced on the current basis in 1991.
A more detailed look at the figures showed that migration into the UK was around 59,000 more than in the previous mid-year period, or 11 pct, while migration out of the UK fell by 8,000, or 2 pct.
As expected, the increase was mainly associated with a rise in net migration among citizens from the mainly east European countries that joined the EU in May 2004.
In 2004/5, the first full year of their membership, net migration of citizens from these accession countries was 74,000 compared with 10,000 in 2003/4.
Today's figures do not include short-term migrants who stay in the UK for less than a year.

Madness. :blink:

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That is why I think house prices will rise for some time more.

This is though on first time buyers but they could have voted UKIP and didn't so I can not feel that sorry for them.

If you want to be part of the EU you have to have unlimited immigration when our economy does better than Euroland. Therefore either lots of house builds (no chance too many NIMBIES) or a permanent housing shortage.

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That is why I think house prices will rise for some time more.

This is though on first time buyers but they could have voted UKIP and didn't so I can not feel that sorry for them.

If you want to be part of the EU you have to have unlimited immigration when our economy does better than Euroland. Therefore either lots of house builds (no chance too many NIMBIES) or a permanent housing shortage.

Surely the main reason we are getting more immigrants from EU accession countries is because we are the only ones who will allow them to work!! The UK and Ireland are the only EU member states who are not restricting how many Poles, etc can work in their country. No restrictions will be fine after 10-15 years of membership but to open the doors with no restrictions on day one, in the age of cheap air travel, looked silly at the time. Now it just looks insane!

If the UK government had done some (any) thinking and wondered why all the other countries were imposing restrictions, maybe we could have avoided the problems associated with an influx of ~500,000 people over 2 years.

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Surely the main reason we are getting more immigrants from EU accession countries is because we are the only ones who will allow them to work!! The UK and Ireland are the only EU member states who are not restricting how many Poles, etc can work in their country. No restrictions will be fine after 10-15 years of membership but to open the doors with no restrictions on day one, in the age of cheap air travel, looked silly at the time. Now it just looks insane!

If the UK government had done some (any) thinking and wondered why all the other countries were imposing restrictions, maybe we could have avoided the problems associated with an influx of ~500,000 people over 2 years.

Hasn't Gordon been creating a lot of government jobs, especially in NI? After all, we can't expect 1 million immigrants to come here without NuLabout finding them work to do. :lol:

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Hasn't Gordon been creating a lot of government jobs, especially in NI? After all, we can't expect 1 million immigrants to come here without NuLabout finding them work to do. :lol:

Yep, it could also be why there was a chronic shortage of doctors, nurses, etc. about 4 years ago, but now we seem to have plenty. Not a bad thing, unless you foolishly trained to be a doctor or a nurse and are now emerging blinking into the sunlight only to find the job you trained for doesn't exist!

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Surely the main reason we are getting more immigrants from EU accession countries is because we are the only ones who will allow them to work!! The UK and Ireland are the only EU member states who are not restricting how many Poles, etc can work in their country. No restrictions will be fine after 10-15 years of membership but to open the doors with no restrictions on day one, in the age of cheap air travel, looked silly at the time. Now it just looks insane!

If the UK government had done some (any) thinking and wondered why all the other countries were imposing restrictions, maybe we could have avoided the problems associated with an influx of ~500,000 people over 2 years.

One of the factors certainly, however it is not the main reason. Language is the obvious reason.

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One of the factors certainly, however it is not the main reason. Language is the obvious reason.

Many Poles (for example, since they are the biggest new US member) speak very good German. Poland shares a border with Germany, so would be a cheap and easy foreign destination for Poles wishing to work abroad... but the Germans won't let the Poles work there. Someone will let them work and that nice person is us. Don't get me wrong. there is nothing wrong with people from Eastern Europe coming to work in the UK, free labour movement is one of the big points of the EU and I welcome it. But what is wrong, is the total lack of control and planning exercised HM Governement. There should have been a quota set for the first 10 years, increasing year on year to give everyone (the Poles included) time to adjust.

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That is why I think house prices will rise for some time more.

This is though on first time buyers but they could have voted UKIP and didn't so I can not feel that sorry for them.

If you want to be part of the EU you have to have unlimited immigration when our economy does better than Euroland. Therefore either lots of house builds (no chance too many NIMBIES) or a permanent housing shortage.

You are probably right.

It is the only thing that has been creating demand especially for the rental sector, which is keeping both BTL and general demand bouyant.

At some stage there will be a reverse situation that will probably coincide with recession or possible civil unrest which will create ideal conditions for a crash.

Prices seem to be limited to maximum affordability, or maximum lending criteria, which seems to have been reached.

I would also suggest the figures are much higher than the official.

If we see the figures increasing again at even higher rates and there is no economic slowdowns and cheap money is still available, it could be possible that property prices could say double within 2 years. New BTL margins would be low, but rents would be forced higher and higher.

This is a possibility, but I dont believe the population will allow this to happen and would expect some forced repatrination if not by the current govenment then by the people.

Very good Bull arguement that could not be defended by any Bear.

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All i know is that this website seems to be more of a forum for bitter, twisted racists and people with a chip on their shoulder now than anything else.

A sad end. No wonder half the members left and set up the new forum at *********************.com - debate's a bit more grown up there.

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All i know is that this website seems to be more of a forum for bitter, twisted racists and people with a chip on their shoulder now than anything else.

A sad end. No wonder half the members left and set up the new forum at *********************.com - debate's a bit more grown up there.

Get yourself over there... or are you a bitter, twisted racist (troll)?

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All i know is that this website seems to be more of a forum for bitter, twisted racists and people with a chip on their shoulder now than anything else.

A sad end. No wonder half the members left and set up the new forum at *********************.com - debate's a bit more grown up there.

Why don't you f-off there also?

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Why don't you f-off there also?

********** dot com is much better folks !

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shocking racism on this website!

In this thread what have anyone said that is racist ? Or do you just lie and run ?

You keep on saying that you welcome another million immigrants to the UK, where is the space for them ?

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