Muslims Want Their Own Public Holidays Or Else........

[whiterabbit]

According to some Muslim leaders the way to counter terrorism which lies at the dark heart of their community is to allow the introduction of Sharia law and acknowledge important religious days on the Muslim calendar to become public holidays.

So says Dr. Syed Aziz Pasha, secretary general of the Union of Muslim Organisations in the UK and Ireland who informed reporters of his robust exchange with Communities Secretary Ruth Kelly.

'We told her if you give us religious rights, we will be in a better position to convince young people that they are being treated equally along with other citizens.'

Dr. Pasha said Miss Kelly had agreed to look at the proposals, though her spokesman insisted later that she did not favour any legal change which would give 'special treatment' for the Muslim community.

Some of the 30 moderate Muslim leaders at the meeting on Wednesday (16th) told Miss Kelly that important days in their two main religious festivals - Ramadan and Eid-ul-Adha - should be made public holidays for followers of the faith.

Sharia law for family affairs, which is practised in large parts of the Middle East, should also be introduced in Britain, they argued. Under the law, a husband pays his wife a dowry on marriage, and money and assets are shared out between family members in specified amounts after someone dies.

'They should understand our problems then we will understand their problems.' Dr Pasha added, in a manner which appears to resemble blackmail.

A recent poll suggested that a third of British Muslims would rather live under Sharia law, while a similar number said they also hope Britain will one day become an Islamic state.

But Dr. Pasha claimed the legal changes he proposed would help convince young Muslims to integrate better into British society.

Kharshid Ahmed, chairman of the British Muslim Forum, said: 'We believe that the threat is still external - it is people coming from outside and leading the radicalisation.

'We need to deal with that before people inside our communities are leading the radicalisation.'

They already are, Kharshid. Or haven't you noticed that some of the 7/7 bombers and most of those recently arrested were described as “British citizens”?

[OLDFTB]

Colonel Gaddafi recently said:

"Already there are 30 million Muslims in Europe. In 50 years time it will be an Islamic state with Sharia law.

And we won't even have had to fire a single shot!"

Makes you think doesn't it?

[goodgamegoodgame]

Colonel Gaddafi recently said:

"Already there are 30 million Muslims in Europe. In 50 years time it will be an Islamic state with Sharia law.

And we won't even have had to fire a single shot!"

Makes you think doesn't it?

They should of behaved themselves and kept a low profile for another 20 years. Cat's out of the bag now.

[billy-g]

They should of behaved themselves and kept a low profile for another 20 years. Cat's out of the bag now.

So what if it is? No-one has the testicular fortitude to actually DO anything about it.

[needle]

This place is full of right-wing fuktards spouting nonsense.

The other side has much more intelligent debate.

[billy-g]

This place is full of right-wing fuktards spouting nonsense.

The other side has much more intelligent debate.

Ah, just like your most learned contribution you mean

[THOR33]

They should of behaved themselves and kept a low profile for another 20 years. Cat's out of the bag now.

Just like the Dewsbury MP said over the weekend " If you don't like it here, THEN GET OUT"

Never a truer word spoken......And he is a pakistani!

I'm ABSOLUTELY sick of what "they want" all the time.....do we get Jews, Sikhs and other religions demanding anything....."NO" not to this scale..........

And I bet if anyone saw this they would use the "oh thats racist" card!

Other countries "CONTROL" what the minorities can use as a tool for getting power and their own way...theres no backlash their(oz, etc etc).......We are just so ******* soft here and THEY KNOW THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[billy-g]

Talking of Australia..

From: headlines.sify.com/news/fullstory.php?id=13924046

Muslims who want to live under the Islamic Sharia law were told Wednesday to get out of Australia as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential terror attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown.

Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state and its laws were made by parliament.

"If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia, one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that that is false."

"If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts,democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country which practises it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked move to the other country.

Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off".

"Basically, people who don't want to be Australians, and they don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then they can basically clear off," he said.

Muslim schools will have to denounce terrorism as part of an effort to stamp out home-grown extremism under measures announced after Howard's meeting with 14 Islamic leaders Tuesday.

The prime minister called the meeting in the wake of last month's London bombings by British-born Muslims, amid fears that Australia could be the target of a similar attack by disaffected members of its small Muslim community.

"The purpose of the meeting was to identify ways of preventing the emergence of any terrorist behaviour in this country," Howard told commercial radio Wednesday.

"You won't change the minds of people who are hardened fanatics and hardened extremists. You have to identify them and take measures to ensure that they don't become a problem."

Asked if he was prepared to "get inside" mosques and schools to ensure there was no support for terrorism, Howard said: "Yes, to the extent necessary".

Britain, shaken by the rail and bus bombings which killed 56 people, is debating new powers which could include closing mosques where clerics are suspected of supporting extremists and deporting those who glorify suicide bombers.

Australia, which like Britain has troops in Iraq, is also contemplating tougher anti-terror legislation. which will be debated next month at a meeting between Howard and leaders of state governments.

Meanwhile, an Islamic youth organisation that was not invited to Howard's Tuesday meeting said it would call an alternative conference -- on September 11 -- for what it says is the 80 percent of Muslims who were not represented.

The Affinity Intercultural Foundation (AIF) told national radio it wants to try to change the date's association with Islamic violence, and to highlight how mainstream Muslims have become victims of prejudice and bias.

AIF director Mehmet Saral said Muslims were feeling more victimised than at any other time in their history of living in Australia. Some 300,000 Muslims make up just 1.5 percent of Australia's population of 20 million.

[Justice]

A recent poll suggested that a third of British Muslims would rather live under Sharia law, while a similar number said they also hope Britain will one day become an Islamic state.

But if i said that or other things i know that happen to be true i'm become a racist do i !

i'll keep voting BNP and hope this mess is sorted out.

[Brian Potter]

Unfortunately, political correctness destroys any attempt to have reasonable debate on this type of subject. The race card is the first to be played.

For what its worth I have no problem with anybody living in the uk and making a peaceful life, but if you dont agree with the country's laws, culture, tolerance, freedom of speech and general way of life, then I'm afraid I dont want you in my country.

Hindu's, christians, chinese and countless others can live together. How come the only complaints we ever hear are from muslims?

[iamnumerate]

According to some Muslim leaders the way to counter terrorism which lies at the dark heart of their community is to allow the introduction of Sharia law and acknowledge important religious days on the Muslim calendar to become public holidays.

Two words spring to mind "Dane Geld".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dane_Geld

Lets hope this time the answer is no.