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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/5187096.stm

High house prices, cheap flights, flexible working hours and e-mail and the internet making it easier to work from home are all set to combine to create a new breed of long-distance commuter.

By 2016, there will be 1.5 million people working in the United Kingdom but living overseas, using Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted as commuter terminals - predicts a report from the Future Forum, set up by travel firm Thomson.

So instead of grinding into work on packed commuter trains, people will be looking for a better quality of life in accessible, more affordable overseas cities, working in jobs where they don't have to be in the office each morning.

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High house prices, cheap flights, flexible working hours and e-mail and the internet making it easier to work from home are all set to combine to create a new breed of long-distance commuter.

By 2016, there will be 1.5 million people working in the United Kingdom but living overseas, using Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted as commuter terminals - predicts a report from the Future Forum, set up by travel firm Thomson.

So instead of grinding into work on packed commuter trains, people will be looking for a better quality of life in accessible, more affordable overseas cities, working in jobs where they don't have to be in the office each morning.

Yes please!

Currently I undertake a very pointless daily commute to work only for most of my interactions to be conducted electronicly anyway: email, MSN, telephone, to have my idiot of a boss suck up 30% of my productive time disturbing me with social (his need not mine) drivel.

The actual time I need to be face2face with colleagues/boss amounts to less than 7.5 hours a week, and could be compacted into a single well organised productive day.............I would much rather the other time being in my own home-office hundreds of miles away via broadband if possible.

However I get the impression that without the social interaction of his sub-ordinates and daily monotany of office life my boss would have a breakdown if forced to work from home himself.......It really is a kind of David Brent like thing.

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Spain has had it's day as house prices are much too high and wait till the cost of airline tickets go up as oil prices continue upwards and VAT is charged on flying.

by 2008 you might find you are paying 3.5p per mile in extra taxes if the EU gets it's way, even if Blair loves the extra income whilst saying it's not his fault.

France maybe a bit better just now if you can stand the French.

I'm taking a look at Bulgeria when i get the time.

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As for 'trends', surely this should be a wake up call to our stupid government that they need to build more and better houses here. If people have got this desperate (and yes I have considered this too - commuting from Northern France just to afford an actual house) surely for god's sake they have to stand up to the bloody CPRE and build some homes! We are all complicit - prepared to make our lives a misery just to own our piece of earth.

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With the new holographic virtual reality systems you can commute electronically to work and stay put in Spain or France. Now that Brown has destroyed retail and manufacturing as a viable business in the UK the services industry does not require physical presence. People just live where its cheaper and stay away from countries like England where it is no longer financially viable. Even a 50% drop in house prices would be insufficient to make the UK worthwhile from a financial point of view when there are other places much cheaper.

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By 2016, there will be 1.5 million people working in the United Kingdom but living overseas, using Heathrow, Gatwick and Stansted as commuter terminals

Can the terminals roads and railways cope with an extra 1.5 million commuters a day? Thats an extra 4000 flights a day just for commuters? Thats an extra 3 flights a minute!? That must be at least doubling the number of flights out of london and i thought airspace was currently very tight?

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Can the terminals roads and railways cope with an extra 1.5 million commuters a day? That's an extra 4000 flights a day just for commuters? That's an extra 3 flights a minute!? That must be at least doubling the number of flights out of London and i thought airspace was currently very tight?

So many commentators fail to ask the question, what will these aircraft be running on in ten years?

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My staff are based around the world. Nearly all communication is done via VOIP etc. I frequently spend most of my time working from home. As far as 'm concerned staff can work where ever they prefer subject to my approval.

There's no substitute for face to face though, when it's important you have to be able to see the facial expressions in real time.

The problem with remote working is being able to switch off. I spend considerable time making sure my staff don't work too many hours.

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if your job can be done nearly totally remotely then whats to stop your boss outsourcing your job to a low cost englsih speaking graduate in India or eastern europe?

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These are ropey at the moment, will be as good as being there visually in a decade and will likely be indistinguishable (including touch, moving, interacting, taste and smell) from reality in two decades or so.

Guess retirement will be cheap when everyone can just stay at home plugged into the VR porn channels :).

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if your job can be done nearly totally remotely then whats to stop your boss outsourcing your job to a low cost englsih speaking graduate in India or eastern europe?

Luddite. Move with the times. You could be your own boss. Who would then outsource you?

The key is to be 1 step ahead of the game. Better to be the outsourcer then outsoucee.

I have outsourced loads of IT to India and Turkey. Currently in Prague looking at maybe another team. Turkish are the best value for money. Their government is spending billions to build a future economy based on a highly skilled service sector. eg all lessons above a certain level are always in English irrespective of the subject.

Having said that I can now "win" contracts to do more work as overall we're cheaper and the number of Western based guys hasn't dropped that much. And they tend to get the most interesting work. With hindsight I just got rid of the under-performing dross.

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