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I believe the Tories are as bad if nor worse for HPI. They are pushing shared ownership schemes to try and prop the market up and their housing minister appeared on Question Time talking about safeguarding peoples homes and low interest rates being a Tory priority.

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I believe the Tories are as bad if nor worse for HPI. They are pushing shared ownership schemes to try and prop the market up and their housing minister appeared on Question Time talking about safeguarding peoples homes and low interest rates being a Tory priority.

And, of course in league with Kirsty Alslop

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Yes, the Tories are kings of pumping up the money supply. New Labour's main failing isn't squandering tax money on nonsense, although that's part of it, but the 'free-market fairy' banker-loving policies of the conseravtives they adopted.

The Tories are advocating an exapnsion of right-to-buy to HA homes (further attacked the poor who rely on cheap rentals). These are the who started the process of social division where thousands of families live in B&Bs where a couple of decades ago they'd have a half-decent council house. The people who created an underclass by ripping apart British industry and then vindictively scapegoating those on the dole leaving a whole section of society with an, almost understandable, 'f-you' attitude to eveyone and everything.

Worse, the Tories have supported or failed to challenege EVERY bit of creeping totalitarian crap that NuLabour have put out. Mass surviellence, military polcing, shoot to kill, the database state, biometric ID, ever-increasing prison populations.

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Yes, the Tories are kings of pumping up the money supply. New Labour's main failing isn't squandering tax money on nonsense, although that's part of it, but the 'free-market fairy' banker-loving policies of the conseravtives.

The Tories advocating an exapnsion of right-to-buy to HA homes (further attacked the poor who rely on cheap rentals). These are the who started the process of social division where thousands of families live in B&Bs where a couple of decades ago they'd have a half-decent council house. The people who created an underclass by ripping apart British industry and then vindictively scapegoating those on the dole leaving a whole section of society with an, almost understandable, 'f-you' attitude to eveyone and everything.

Worse, the Tories have supported or failed to challenege EVERY bit of creeping totalitarian crap that NuLabour have put out. Mass surviellence, military polcing, shoot to kill, the database state, biometric ID, ever-increasing prison populations.

BNP or green party all the way, they'd make a difference

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BNP or green party all the way, they'd make a difference

We have the dreaded "one-party" state. The ultimate "I am alright Jack" government that reflects the mind-set of the average person. :o

I think it was one of the Revolutionaries and a framer of the US Constitution that remarked that the people get the government they deserve.

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Brooding Brown will never become PM or even the next leader of the Labour Party.

The Blairites will see to that.

I agree. Bliar has his own agenda to work on ....alongside Bush. Bliar would love to be prime minister for the next 20 years in my opinion. I would just like to see Gordon Brown in any capacity so long as it's NOT chancellor of the exchequer...preferably on the dole.

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Scarily, there's a big push to get Bliar into the UN - as Secretary General!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4611836.stm

Neo-cons to Clintonites - he's the power elite's ultimate placeman.

With neo-con Wolfowitz holed up at the world bank, these war-crazed sociopaths are grabbing more and more power utterly unhindered by the people.

The "people get the government they deserve" saying came from Alexis de Tocqueville, a young Frenchman who wrote Democracy in America. It's worth a read - very heavy going, but shows just how far the US has strayed from its original ideals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America

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Scarily, there's a big push to get Bliar into the UN - as Secretary General!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4611836.stm

Neo-cons to Clintonites - he's the power elite's ultimate placeman.

With neo-con Wolfowitz holed up at the world bank, these war-crazed sociopaths are grabbing more and more power utterly unhindered by the people.

The "people get the government they deserve" saying came from Alexis de Tocqueville, a young Frenchman who wrote Democracy in America. It's worth a read - very heavy going, but shows just how far the US has strayed from its original ideals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America

Now that is truly frightening.....

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Scarily, there's a big push to get Bliar into the UN - as Secretary General!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4611836.stm

Neo-cons to Clintonites - he's the power elite's ultimate placeman.

With neo-con Wolfowitz holed up at the world bank, these war-crazed sociopaths are grabbing more and more power utterly unhindered by the people.

The "people get the government they deserve" saying came from Alexis de Tocqueville, a young Frenchman who wrote Democracy in America. It's worth a read - very heavy going, but shows just how far the US has strayed from its original ideals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_in_America

Yup, read Alexis work when I attended Uni in the States. I rember it going on about "consensus" and how this was made possible in the days of the 13 Colonies because of a broadly shared heritage--mostly British. In many ways it was an English Vicar who founded the "United States", one George Whitefield, who brought consensus in the mid 1700's making the Constitution a possibility.

The common ideals went after America became more diverse making consensus difficult. Now the US have to cater to cultures that are fundamentally opposed to the old American-British ideals of democracy and you ain't kicking us around fella mentality. How on earth America is going to incorporate the growing Muslim population into the consensus heaven only knows.

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Theyre both as bad as each other. The Labour apologists have their heads in the sand and refuse to believe todays situation is anything to do with the party thats been in power for the last 10 years. Quite laughable.

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Yes, utterly facilitated by a raft of 'liberalisations' of the credit market created by the Tories. [COAB]

There's only one reason why money supply has rocketed over recent years -- it's price has been too cheap. Interest rates have been kept far too low by a disastrous policy of targeting an overly narrow and artificially suppressed measure -- the CPI (Corrupted Price Index).

Given the almost universal condemnation of government economic management in these forums, it seems bizarre to want them to stick their bibs in and micro-manage private sector lending. If it was effective at all, it would likely result in even lower interest rates and FTBs not only priced out, but regulated out of the market.

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