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the trouble with reading articules from the papers about house prices etc, is that they are always a couple of months behind. the boom is over in the south east and london, it ran from march and a bit of april, but only now are they reporting guzumping etc and huge rises in london.

the other thing i have learnt form the papers is that they are so inaccurate. if you read about a story that you really know about you will find this to be true. but it is only when you have inside knowledge that it gets home how bad the media are at reporting whats actually happened. whether its deliberate or not i dont know, i suspect that in reality they dont actually care much, they just have lines to write and pages to fill.

so beware all . reality is asking directly and be observant to what is gong on. do not go on too much, either way ,by what you read in the papers.

anicdotal evidence is stronger than you think.

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Problem is that your everday person believes everything they read. :(

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the other thing i have learnt form the papers is that they are so inaccurate. if you read about a story that you really know about you will find this to be true. but it is only when you have inside knowledge that it gets home how bad the media are at reporting whats actually happened.

Absolutely true. If it's an area you're knowledgeable about e.g. from work or maybe a hobby, then you can always find mistakes in newspaper articles about it. If they're getting that wrong, what else are they mucking up? I think you're right about the "just wanting to fill space" motive.

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Having some knowledge of this I also think many people forget how a newspaper/TV works.

They often seem to think that there are loads of stories of merit battling for space in the paper. Instead what often happens is that space has to be filled and journalists are under pressure to fill it.

Hence, when a nice juicy press release drops in your lap which makes a good story you go with it.

You don't question whether it's a VI. You only breathe a sigh of relief that you've got something decent to fob the news editor off with. The tipping point is when stories about a slumping market are easier to put together than nice tasty press releases from the Nationwide.

The summer's a terrible time for this - they call it sillly season.

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if you take it to its logical conclusion, and i have. i know that everything i have ever read about in the papers that i have inside knowledge on, is rubbish and inaccurate, including captions on pictures. then one simply has to deduce that things you dont know about are equally inaccurate . so dont read papers, they are depressing anyway.

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I worked for The Times as a writer and "shadowed" at Channel 4 before that. I originally wanted to be a journalist, but changed my mind when I saw how un-creative the job is.

It always amuses me when I read conspiracy theories about journalists and editors conspiring to put out a "line" in their publications. While there may be some nudging of the ship at a high level, the really primary concern of editors and proprietors is to sell as many papers/get as many viewers as possible. Everything else is secondary. If that means pandering to prejudices etc., then so be it.

As for the journos, they are under such pressure to produce copy that anything they can get away with will do. Genuine, thoughful journalism is the preserve of a very few people, more likely in specialist publications or think-piece writers, who research for the love of it or because they have that status. But the vast, vast majority simply take what they're given by PA feeds/marketing releases etc., and churn out as much as possible in the shortest possible time.

Don't look to the media for intelligent analysis of anything - think for yourself.

Put it this way - when you read a piece in the newspaper think: "what would happen to the jounalist if she were wrong?". If she wrote about a man on trial for murder as "definitely guilty" she would be prosecuted; if she writes about the housing market, no one will ever ever call her on it.

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the trouble with reading articules from the papers about house prices etc, is that they are always a couple of months behind. the boom is over in the south east and london, it ran from march and a bit of april, but only now are they reporting guzumping etc and huge rises in london.

the other thing i have learnt form the papers is that they are so inaccurate. if you read about a story that you really know about you will find this to be true. but it is only when you have inside knowledge that it gets home how bad the media are at reporting whats actually happened. whether its deliberate or not i dont know, i suspect that in reality they dont actually care much, they just have lines to write and pages to fill.

so beware all . reality is asking directly and be observant to what is gong on. do not go on too much, either way ,by what you read in the papers.

anicdotal evidence is stronger than you think.

Well then, anecdotally speaking - THEY'RE IN THE WINDOWS FOR MORE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I guess that settles that then.

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Well then, anecdotally speaking - THEY'RE IN THE WINDOWS FOR MORE NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So I guess that settles that then.

Another priceless post! Great stuff, keep it up. Why's it in the window if it's such a great house?

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"the trouble with reading articules from the papers about house prices etc, is that they are always a couple of months behind."

No Hedi!!! They are put there by PR ["Public Relations" - Haha!!!] companies ON BEHALF of the VESTED INTERESTS. They do NOT care at all as to whether what they say is the truth or not; it is mostly just made up to make readers think that house prices just go up for ever.

"the boom is over in the south east and london, it ran from march and a bit of april, but only now are they reporting guzumping etc and huge rises in london."

Yes Hedi!!!! THIS IS PR - i.e. TOTAL CR@P.

"the other thing i have learnt form the papers is that they are so inaccurate. if you read about a story that you really know about you will find this to be true. but it is only when you have inside knowledge that it gets home how bad the media are at reporting whats actually happened. whether its deliberate or not i dont know, i suspect that in reality they dont actually care much, they just have lines to write and pages to fill".

......looks like your getting it now Hedi!!!

"so beware all . reality is asking directly and be observant to what is gong on. do not go on too much, either way ,by what you read in the papers.

anicdotal evidence is stronger than you think."

PRECISELY!!!

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I worked for The Times as a writer and "shadowed" at Channel 4 before that. I originally wanted to be a journalist, but changed my mind when I saw how un-creative the job is.

It always amuses me when I read conspiracy theories about journalists and editors conspiring to put out a "line" in their publications. While there may be some nudging of the ship at a high level, the really primary concern of editors and proprietors is to sell as many papers/get as many viewers as possible. Everything else is secondary. If that means pandering to prejudices etc., then so be it.

As for the journos, they are under such pressure to produce copy that anything they can get away with will do. Genuine, thoughful journalism is the preserve of a very few people, more likely in specialist publications or think-piece writers, who research for the love of it or because they have that status. But the vast, vast majority simply take what they're given by PA feeds/marketing releases etc., and churn out as much as possible in the shortest possible time.

Don't look to the media for intelligent analysis of anything - think for yourself.

Put it this way - when you read a piece in the newspaper think: "what would happen to the jounalist if she were wrong?". If she wrote about a man on trial for murder as "definitely guilty" she would be prosecuted; if she writes about the housing market, no one will ever ever call her on it.

I found that journos in the national, international and trade press (financial services) have almost always happily let me write their articles for them, to my benefit, as a result of the deadlines you refer to and also laziness I suspect.

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