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Labour Are Now One Big Joke, The Screw Ups Are Now Daily.

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What a crappy couple of months New Labour have had, it looks like a party that has now pressed the self destruct button. Blair is now just a lame duck PM, his appearence with Bush last week had me cringeing, i very nearly even had a feeling of pity of him, but was able to control it.

Presscot has become just a fat joke of a man, many years ago i had a lot of time for Presscot, it hurts to see what chancer he has become, it is like catching your best mate stealing from you wallet.

Tessa Jowel shows her true colours and dumps her hubby rather that have it effect her job, the list is now endless of dodggy dealings and even more dodggy dealings in the Party.

Nearly all the departments are screwing up daily, home office, health, pensions, odpm, we have lost control of our borders, crime, the nu-labor party has just about ended.

But the one jewel they still have(and they must be protecting it like a wall in a world cup free kick on goal) is the ECONOMY.

Making people feel rich has kept this Party in for probably two terms more than it deserved, as far as most people are concerned Gordon Brown still can do no wrong, the Chancellor has kept a tidy ship as far as the public is concerned.

Cameron appears to have done really well up untill this point, the Labour party is now a joke, but untill Gordon is put in his place by Cameron and his mate Osbourne there will always be a threat, after all the Economy is what keeps a party in power, sod the rest.

Sam

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What a crappy couple of months New Labour have had, it looks like a party that has now pressed the self destruct button. Blair is now just a lame duck PM, his appearence with Bush last week had me cringeing, i very nearly even had a feeling of pity of him, but was able to control it.

Presscot has become just a fat joke of a man, many years ago i had a lot of time for Presscot, it hurts to see what chancer he has become, it is like catching your best mate stealing from you wallet.

Tessa Jowel shows her true colours and dumps her hubby rather that have it effect her job, the list is now endless of dodggy dealings and even more dodggy dealings in the Party.

Nearly all the departments are screwing up daily, home office, health, pensions, odpm, we have lost control of our borders, crime, the nu-labor party has just about ended.

But the one jewel they still have(and they must be protecting it like a wall in a world cup free kick on goal) is the ECONOMY.

Making people feel rich has kept this Party in for probably two terms more than it deserved, as far as most people are concerned Gordon Brown still can do no wrong, the Chancellor has kept a tidy ship as far as the public is concerned.

Cameron appears to have done really well up untill this point, the Labour party is now a joke, but untill Gordon is put in his place by Cameron and his mate Osbourne there will always be a threat, after all the Economy is what keeps a party in power, sod the rest.

Sam

They're obviously saving the biggest ******-up for last.

Personally I'm looking forward to the moment of clarity when the public realise that wealth is generated and money lent.

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The gloss is coming off and the Brown stuff is shining through.

Gordon cant keep funding the public services at the current rate without increasing the tax rates. We have seen from the NHS that he is more afraid of increasing tax than he is of a deterioration in the PS.

As the PS start to degrade, Mr and Mrs Thick-as-dogs-******-Brtish-Public will finally wake up..............

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The question is: how long can the illusion be maintained.

An election could be called early (concievably 2.5 years time) under the basis that Brown is seeking a public mandate following leadership handover.

Can the great magician keep the public fooled through further sleight of hand during this time.

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Sam, you are wrong.

They have been screwing up since day one, it's just that - (1) they are not as good at concealing it these days, and (2) some of the chickens take time to come home to roost. :angry:

HTH :huh:

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The question is: how long can the illusion be maintained.

An election could be called early (concievably 2.5 years time) under the basis that Brown is seeking a public mandate following leadership handover.

Can the great magician keep the public fooled through further sleight of hand during this time.

Cameron and Osborne are spectacularly lightweight though, and this is what will probably give Brown his victory at the next election.

Grinning Dave was a Treasury adviser who worked with Lamont during his notorious "green shoots of recovery" period for heaven's sake. He also wrote the last Tory manifesto that he has now totally disowned.

I agree that Labout has had a bad few months but if Cameron and Osborne are the answer then god help us.

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Sam - your misspellings appear a little contrived! If you don't want to look like the journalist you are then try one of these:

Your / you're

We're / were

Don't / do'nt

et.c.

there is surely not a bigger a sshole on any forum than one that goes around checking grammer.

what a putz

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..But the one jewel they still have(and they must be protecting it like a wall in a world cup free kick on goal) is the ECONOMY.

Making people feel rich has kept this Party in for probably two terms more than it deserved, as far as most people are concerned Gordon Brown still can do no wrong, the Chancellor has kept a tidy ship as far as the public is concerned.

People will soon start to question Browns miracle economy once rates start to rise in August. I read an interesting article Yesterday which suggested Brown would call an election as soon as he moved in to number 10 next Summer.

Would you credit it? King has just woken up to debt

....The Bank of England and Chancellor Gordon Brown have relied on the ready supply of credit and rising house prices to fund a merry spending spree - that we have all indulged in since the mid-1990s - to prop up the economy. Last summer the base rate was cut to stave off a recession - we were encouraged to keep spending so businesses wouldn't suffer a downturn.

And the government is responsible for teaching a whole generation to borrow: hundreds of thousands of people under the age of 30 have built up huge debts just to get through higher education.

The last time King pronounced on property prices there was a slump in the market, and the same is likely to happen now. Wouldn't it be better for the government to do something to control the amount of credit offered to us poor sacrificial lambs?

David Gauke MP: Why Gordon Brown will call a snap election

David Gauke is a new Conservative MP and a member of the Treasury Select Committee.

It would be fair to say that I am not close to Gordon Brown. Given that I am a Conservative MP, and our limited dealings have not been entirely warm, it is unlikely that the Chancellor would confide his deepest thoughts to me.

Nonetheless, I have a hunch that I know one of the Chancellor’s biggest secrets. The secret is that, immediately upon becoming Leader of the Labour Party and Prime Minister, Gordon Brown will call a General Election.........

....Many an opposition politician has proven to be wrong when predicting the imminent decline of the British economy in recent years. However, even on the basis of the Treasury’s own forecasts (which have been consistently over-optimistic in recent years), the state of the public finances in the period 2007 to 2009 will be precarious. Constrained by the “golden rule” (however discredited), the Chancellor has very little room for manoeuvre. He is already committed to a very tight comprehensive public spending round in 2007 and, if as many observers believe, growth falls below Treasury forecasts in the next three years, he will have no choice but to put up taxes.

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I think nu labour still have the advantage whilst Tony Blair is at the helm. The conservatives do have an ace up their sleeve though.

It is becoming increasingly unacceptable to the english to have a prime minister who would be controlling legislation affecting the majority in England on devolved matters that do not affect his own constituents!

It's a democratic nonsense. England is just waking up to the effect that it is being ruled by a raj that has no affection for it and new labour and Gordon are going to be punished for it irrespective of his impressive stewardship of the economy.

And yes I know Blair is Scottish but he does represent an English contituency.

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I am a member of the Tory party, and I don't believe they offer any real hope.

Cameron expects to breeze in on the back of the government falling apart, under these policies, mass immigration etc.. But he offers exactly the same policies.

Both parties have the same poltical agenda with minor differences, because they rely on funding from the same source - the rich who give them millions to forward thier interests over the interests of the population. :P

It's important to realise that both parties would be totally bankrupt, unable to pay for its media connections and tools of influance, without this funding source.

These rich interets set the poltical agenda, not the populations wishes.

That is why there is no political choice today. The story is that they are crowding the same policies because thats what people want, but thats not true. A huge section of the population simply doesn't see any difference, doesn't see any of thier interests represented, so doesn't vote.

Where the democracy? Its been hijacked!

Who do you vote for? Theres no choice - Does it make any real difference?

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Sam

Why do you describe Labour's handling of the economy as a jewel? They have created a bubble with borrowed money. They recruited 1 million public servants and destroyed 1 million manufacturing jobs.

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it doesnt make any difference. in this day and age, policy for public good comes second place to business.

we had our time in the mid 20th century. all we did since 1980 is turn all that back and undo it piece by piece.

this world is heading to ID card and wage slave hell.

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Presscot has become just a fat joke of a man, many years ago i had a lot of time for Presscot, it hurts

... if he decides to sit on you?

Prescott has always been a joke, a fig leaf for Old Labour, he's just an archetypal waster union boss that couldn't think his way out of a paper bag, you were foolish to assume otherwise.

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Sam

Why do you describe Labour's handling of the economy as a jewel? They have created a bubble with borrowed money. They recruited 1 million public servants and destroyed 1 million manufacturing jobs.

governents of all colours have been living off the achievements of their precessors thoughout this political cycle (around 10 years).

US - the conservative government in power has been living off the achievements and fat of the previous progressive? government

UK - the progressive? government in power has been living off the achievements and fat of the previous conservative government

OZ - the conservative government in power has been living off the achievements and fat of the previous progressive? government

Its not about political colours or labels, its about the epoch of cheats and liars prospering... the pretentious buffoon that is Prescott is a perfect metaphor for the corrupt and lazy opulence of the ruling laggards.

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I think nu labour still have the advantage whilst Tony Blair is at the helm. The conservatives do have an ace up their sleeve though.

...oh really?!!!!!

people are slowly but surely getting tired of pop-idol,seeing a few plastic manufactured muppets sing dross that makes eurovision songwriting look talented.

the same will come true of politics.....after all,we have a choice between cheesy-grin fairly easy-on-the-eye sleazebag for labour and....errrr.....ummmm,cheesy grin fairly easy-on-the-eye sleazebag for the tories.

ming campell might stand a chance but libdem policies are shite!!!....more of the same left-wing lunacy but painted yellow.

to be honest politics needs a good kick up the @rse with some kind of jose morinho type in there,not just talking the talk but walking the walk too....and doesn't pull any punches.

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How about a new games show - I want to be a primeminister.

10,000 Applicants are selected via a grand phone in. These then participate in a massive Test the Nation style quiz. The top 400 get to be ministers. The top 20 go into the Big Brother house... the winner gets to be PM for a year...

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How about a new games show - I want to be a primeminister.

10,000 Applicants are selected via a grand phone in. These then participate in a massive Test the Nation style quiz. The top 400 get to be ministers. The top 20 go into the Big Brother house... the winner gets to be PM for a year...

Blah, can you imagine our digilent politicans sitting on their ar$es all day long whilst stuck in some big house with TV cameras recording their every utterance?

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governents of all colours have been living off the achievements of their precessors thoughout this political cycle (around 10 years).

US - the conservative government in power has been living off the achievements and fat of the previous progressive? government

UK - the progressive? government in power has been living off the achievements and fat of the previous conservative government

OZ - the conservative government in power has been living off the achievements and fat of the previous progressive? government

Its not about political colours or labels, its about the epoch of cheats and liars prospering... the pretentious buffoon that is Prescott is a perfect metaphor for the corrupt and lazy opulence of the ruling laggards.

Elizabeth

I agree with quite a lot of what you say although Gordon Brown is in a league of his own when it comes to wasting public money and undermining the economy. I also fear David Cameron doesnt look like he is capable of stopping the rot (although I hope I am wrong).

Governments of all colours must stop treating the peoples money like their own. They stop controlling our lives and stop telling us how to think. They must also reign in the parasites living off public funds. We cannot afford this anymore and we end up like Egypt in 15 years time if someone doesnt take control.

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I think the writing was on the wall when we heard that 70% of people in the North of England work in Public Services, and it was pointed out the during the darkest days of the Soviet era, even they did not have 70% of the population on the payroll.

What is worse, their payroll is paying three times the average wage in private industry, "The Guardian" a beacon of Socialist Extremism runs job ads that offer Pox Doctors Clerk positions on salarys of 150k pa without feeling any shame whatsoever, I suppose they are happy to be in bed with the ex pot smoking public schoolboys who self styled themselves to look like they had an affinity with the working classes.

The Labour Party are now for sure, completely unelectable, not because the are "New Labour" or because they are "Labour" but simply because having had many years in office they have produced nothing of any value whatsoever.

For sure they have made changes, but the cost of those changes to the public has produced absolutely no value for money whatsover, it has been a crony pocket lining excercise since day one. Fool the public with spin, smoke and mirrors, whilst stuffing your pockets with cash, and heaps of ego in the hope they will never find out.

The last Month has not been a disaster for new Labour, its been a disaster since the first day they took office, the difference in the last month is that they can no longer contain their deceit and greed between them, they are in chaos and its every man for himself. We can see it, the press have finally started to report it, and it wont be long before the public get to vote on it.

BTW, Tess J, your are indeed a lying snake, you should now resign given that you and your ex have been taking back handers from an Italian Mobster.

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I think the media has an agenda

All these stories seem to appeared at once (not when the event happened) - this was esp on the run upto local elections

Bit like the housing market really - lots of sheep to herd - thats "democracy" and the "market" for you - exploiting peoples ignorance

Some things never change :lol:

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The media has since Labour took office been pro Labour.

In the last three months, the Media has turned aggressive on New Labour.

I dont know why that is, in fact I didnt understand why they were so Pro Labour in the first place.

But one thing is for sure, "The Sun Says" is going to have some very bad words in the next few months, no longer are New Labour the darlings of the press, the wolves are out the get them.

Prescott Playing Croquet...................now that is Champagne Socialism gone mad!!.

He will be out with the Local Hunt before we know it, sipping Pimms at Goodwood, and off to Cowes in the New Labour Yacht for the Summer moving onto his St Tropez residence for the winter months.

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The media has since Labour took office been pro Labour.

In the last three months, the Media has turned aggressive on New Labour.

I dont know why that is, in fact I didnt understand why they were so Pro Labour in the first place.

wouldn't be anything to do with economic cycles at all then would it!!!!

same thing happened in '89 prior to maggie getting the chop.

same old record.....just changing over to the "b" side....slightly funkier mix of the same tune.

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