Loanshark Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Iceland’s central bank raised its key interest rate sharply on Thursday in its latest bid to cool its overheating economy after a dramatic jump in inflation in the last few weeks. It raised its policy interest rate by three quarters of a percentage point to 12.25 per cent, the highest level for at least 15 years, and the second consecutive 75 basis points increase since the end of March. Icelandic inflation has surged from 4.5 per cent to 7.6 per cent since the end of March on the back of a consumption boom, rocketing house prices, wage rises and a sharp weakening of the Icelandic krona amid global foreign exchange turbulence. Full story at FT.com http://news.ft.com/cms/s/e55d34be-e68e-11d...00779e2340.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
FrozenOut Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Nice to see the Government there in control and not lieing to the people. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jason Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Crikey. Where can I find the interest rate history of Iceland? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuyingBear Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Iceland’s central bank raised its key interest rate sharply on Thursday in its latest bid to cool its overheating economy after a dramatic jump in inflation in the last few weeks. overheating economy to prop up it's tanking currency, more like. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loanshark Report post Posted May 18, 2006 overheating economy to prop up it's tanking currency, more like. Good job we have the £pound, a nice safe currency that has never had any trouble before ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Surrey cash buyer Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Crikey. Where can I find the interest rate history of Iceland? Bank of Iceland Interesting that they target CPI inflation in the same way as Bank of England. Their inflation target is 2.5% Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warwickshire Lad Report post Posted May 18, 2006 You all must see the CPI inflation graph of Iceland - it's some spectacle :- http://www.sedlabanki.is/?pageid=201 It's all going rather wrong there. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuyingBear Report post Posted May 18, 2006 You all must see the CPI inflation graph of Iceland - it's some spectacle :- http://www.sedlabanki.is/?pageid=201 It's all going rather wrong there. Quite, their statisticians are far too honest. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warwickshire Lad Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Quite, their statisticians are far too honest. If you look at the Icelandic Bank's own CPI forecast, it's hopelessly wrong. The inflation genie is definitely out of the bottle there. http://www.sedlabanki.is/?PageID=202 Of course, Iceland is a small country so you could argue that the economy is different to that of larger economies like the UK and the US - but is there really a lot of difference ? IMHO this is a portent of what is to come, and I have a feeling that some serious s**t isn't far away from happening in the U.S. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robbrent Report post Posted May 18, 2006 If you look at the Icelandic Bank's own CPI forecast, it's hopelessly wrong. The inflation genie is definitely out of the bottle there. http://www.sedlabanki.is/?PageID=202 Of course, Iceland is a small country so you could argue that the economy is different to that of larger economies like the UK and the US - but is there really a lot of difference ? IMHO this is a portent of what is to come, and I have a feeling that some serious s**t isn't far away from happening in the U.S. Did it not have something to do with the Carry Trade? Anyway they are just a glimpse intot he future, I have a strange feeling Ireland is in for it next, I don't know why Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuyingBear Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Did it not have something to do with the Carry Trade? Anyway they are just a glimpse intot he future, I have a strange feeling Ireland is in for it next, I don't know why Hrm, Ireland has the Euro so they're "all in it together". New Zealand is actually going through the same problems as Iceland, Australia is being supported by the commodities bubble, so their tanking property market is being offset. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Bart of Darkness Report post Posted May 18, 2006 I thought Iceland were on the slide when they stopped doing home deliveries. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aclwalker Report post Posted May 18, 2006 I thought Iceland were on the slide when they stopped doing home deliveries. I blame Kerry Katona. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warwickshire Lad Report post Posted May 18, 2006 New Zealand is actually going through the same problems as Iceland Yep the Kiwi $ is currently sinking, a great time to go on holiday there. I'm planning one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Loanshark Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Did it not have something to do with the Carry Trade? Anyway they are just a glimpse intot he future, I have a strange feeling Ireland is in for it next, I don't know why Yes its the carry trade effect. New Zealand could be next and then ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuyingBear Report post Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) Yes its the carry trade effect. New Zealand could be next and then ? could be err... it's already is! The only way to constrain capital outflows in Iceland is the hope that 12.25% rates offset the risk and persuade people to leave the carry trade open, but once the run of hot money has started it's hard to counter that trend, especially given the events of the last week. Just like the emerging markets, people are selling up and running away. A 12% repo rate isn't so attractive if the Krona tanks by a greater amount. Edited May 18, 2006 by BuyingBear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randall Herbert Report post Posted May 18, 2006 overheating economy to prop up it's tanking currency, more like. USD$ likewise. Only the USD$ dollar has a long long way to fall.... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuyingBear Report post Posted May 18, 2006 USD$ likewise. Only the USD$ dollar has a long long way to fall.... Indeed, if it wasn't for the fact the USD has tanked in recent weeks and the fact gold has smashed through $700 barely a month after breaching $600... would the Fed still be talking about raising in June and August? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warwickshire Lad Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Indeed, if it wasn't for the fact the USD has tanked in recent weeks and the fact gold has smashed through $700 barely a month after breaching $600... would the Fed still be talking about raising in June and August? I think that IR hikes still have some way to go in the US$. The Fed will want to stop the hikes, but the markets won't let them stop. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randall Herbert Report post Posted May 18, 2006 Indeed, if it wasn't for the fact the USD has tanked in recent weeks and the fact gold has smashed through $700 barely a month after breaching $600... would the Fed still be talking about raising in June and August? The main question on, anyone who holds mega amounts of dollar debt's lips, must be what is all this dollar debt worth? Equal trade? and I promise to pay the 'bear'er on demand the sum of..... in .....something ....tangible?? Oil supply security? World security? Mililtary aid? The promise of not kicking your butt? US paper has little to offer. Ask the Chinese peasants in China who work for **** all to provide for the US...Chinese people are working for the West and for **** all!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuyingBear Report post Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) That's exactly why companies are trying to exchange those bits of paper for real tangible assets that produce a real returns that cannot be inflated away, and exactly why the US doesn't like it. Like Dubai Ports World? eek, China's CNOOC and their failed takeover of Unocal? People are now demanding collateral, this is equivalent to knee-cap territory for nation states. Edited May 18, 2006 by BuyingBear Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Time to raise the rents. Report post Posted May 19, 2006 I'd personally like to see a graph of the Icelandic Krona over the last year. A country so dependant on imports can't go without inflation if the currency suffers. The central bank site doesn't seem to offer a graph. If NZ is going the same way then mining or not, Australia will go the same way as well & I've noticed the AUD moving in unison with the USD versus GBP in the last couple of weeks. Looks to me like GBP & EUR might be the only safe haven currencies soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Randall Herbert Report post Posted May 19, 2006 I'd personally like to see a graph of the Icelandic Krona over the last year. A country so dependant on imports can't go without inflation if the currency suffers. The central bank site doesn't seem to offer a graph. If NZ is going the same way then mining or not, Australia will go the same way as well & I've noticed the AUD moving in unison with the USD versus GBP in the last couple of weeks. Looks to me like GBP & EUR might be the only safe haven currencies soon. Surely "Bricks & Mortar" safe as houses TTRTR???? Gold is the place to be at the moment. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonathan trees Report post Posted May 19, 2006 What is happening in Iceland has absolutely no relevance here and it is just the doom-mongers once again clutching at straws in taking the slightest bit of bad news, no matter how trivial and irrelevant it is, just to justify a property crash occurring here. Houses only ever go up in value. Cynics say that houses are far too overvalued and that even high earners can't afford them. But they forget that credit is much easier to get these days, and the "multiplier effect" means that you can't lose. For example, your parents can borrow against the equity in their home so that you can afford a house. Then, you simply sell when the price is high, and give them the difference back. There should be enough for you to move to a bigger house, too. Easy! All that needs to happen is for this cycle to be repeated again and again. There's no doubt about it, the "boom and bust" days are over, and there's never been a better time to buy. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warwickshire Lad Report post Posted May 19, 2006 I'd personally like to see a graph of the Icelandic Krona over the last year. A country so dependant on imports can't go without inflation if the currency suffers. This is the best I can find which only goes back 6 months, but the recent action is pretty clear :- http://www.advfn.com/quote_UK-Sterling-vs-..._FX_GBPISK.html Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites