Time to raise the rents. Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I can't see what age has to do with it, I run a profitable business by the way. I'm speaking particularly of pension funds sloshing around the world looking for any kind of return. I also run a profitable business BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prude Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I would go along with that given the fundamentals. FFS Off you go then - load up on builders And when you've put your marker down post it on here so we can all keep track of your investment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanghai Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 FFS Off you go then - load up on builders And when you've put your marker down post it on here so we can all keep track of your investment Load up on builders? No chance. First ones to lose in a slow or decreasing property market. FTSE is trading with a PE of 13.6 at the moment. Historically that's quite reasonable and yields are also good. Its basic economics, buy low and sell high. Housing market fundamentals are very high, stock market's are reasonable. Where is the problem? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) --most saw this coming and got out a week ago Okay then, who has been selling to produce the falls? Look at the facts. Bets the market will fall / vs bets it will rise only went parabolic yesterday (see attachment here Sledgehead's FTSE Open Interest Indicator ) Edited May 18, 2006 by Sledgehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear Goggles Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 FTSE now VERY oversold. Support at 5650 kicked in. I still say 6500 by year end. FTSE breadth Could it be that central banks need to raise interest rates to stabilise the markets? Sounds counter-intuitive, but if the markets are falling because of the 'fear of rate hikes' once rates actually go up then there's nothing left to fear. Or is that just stupid? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sledgehead Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 (edited) Could it be that central banks need to raise interest rates to stabilise the markets? Sounds counter-intuitive, but if the markets are falling because of the 'fear of rate hikes' once rates actually go up then there's nothing left to fear. Or is that just stupid? For that comment to be truly stupid, you have to be the stupidest person out there. Take a look at what has happened over tha past few days, at least as it has been reported: 1 . Emerging markets fall on falling $ 2 . Americans repatriate funds from emerging markets cos they are falling. 3 . Dollar is supported by 2. You don't need a doctorate in predicate logic to work out market moves are seldom grounded in intelligence and reason. In otherwords, seeing as you have been able to formulate an argument for rising rates and rising markets, no matter its intrinsic value, many others will also be able to think that way. All they need is an excuse. ie a bounce. Reasons always follow market moves, not the other way. Edited May 18, 2006 by Sledgehead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Dont worry - theres a stock market rally going on according to Al-BBC Rally starts for European stocks European markets saw the biggest drop since 2002 European markets have rallied after big falls in the US and Europe on Wednesday and subsequent falls in Asia. Its now up a whole 12 points!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzMosiz Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Some of the stocks I was invested in have take an absolute hammering. Debt Management: DFD Last Trade: 379.50 p Peak: 475p Down 7.44% today DEBT Last Trade: 275.00p Peak: 385p Down 8.46% Today ACG Last Trade: 257p Peak: 317p Down 5.86% Today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Stock market crashes tend to be good for house prices, as people move money out of these assets, and also central banks tend to cut interest rates. What a shame we did it the other way around this time, then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the Fear Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Dont worry - theres a stock market rally going on according to Al-BBC Its now up a whole 12 points!! Seems to have gone negative again. Hopefully the yanks are feeling bearish and do some heavy selling today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick T Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Dont worry - theres a stock market rally going on according to Al-BBC Its now up a whole 12 points!! FTSE is down 25 points Dow is down 214points ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surrey cash buyer Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Seems to have gone negative again. Hopefully the yanks are feeling bearish and do some heavy selling today. Two set of US stats due out today Economic Calandar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prude Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Seems to have gone negative again. Hopefully the yanks are feeling bearish and do some heavy selling today. Torn on what I'm wishing for over the past few days .. If the markets continue to go down on the prospect interest rate rises then this may/will influence whether those rises happen. Then again lots of greedy types getting burnt on big falls has its appeal. Its a tough call Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OzzMosiz Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Pain for investors in this one Debtmatters Last Trade: 260.00 p Trade Time: 12:31PM Change: Down 40.40 (13.45%) Prev Close: 300.40 Open: 298.00 Bid: 260.00 Ask: 265.00 1y Target Est: 260.00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jp1 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Torn on what I'm wishing for over the past few days .. If the markets continue to go down on the prospect interest rate rises then this may/will influence whether those rises happen. Then again lots of greedy types getting burnt on big falls has its appeal. Its a tough call IMO if the Fed now 'pause' with IR rises [for fear of the stock markets] the markets will loose all faith in the Fed and sink the dollar, which will send the stock markets into free-fall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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