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You have to laugh at the response of the politically correct when life throws up a result which doesn't fit in with their neat multi-culti world view!

Cameras set racial poser on car crime

Dipesh Gadher, Transport Correspondent

BRITAIN’S most senior policeman Sir Ian Blair is facing a race relations dilemma after the release of figures that reveal almost half the number of people arrested in relation to car crime in London are black.

Blair, the Metropolitan police commissioner, has signed off a report by his force’s traffic unit which shows that black people account for 46% of all arrests generated by new automatic numberplate recognition (ANPR) cameras.

The technology allows car registration plates to be scanned and automatically run through databases to determine whether a vehicle is stolen, uninsured or has not had its road tax paid.

Each numberplate is also checked with the police national computer, where vehicles suspected of links to crimes such as robberies are flagged up.

The Met has deployed six mobile ANPR camera units in the capital, primarily in areas with high levels of street crime. When a suspect vehicle is identified, police officers are sent to intercept the driver.

Although ANPR technology is impartial, the disproportionate number of blacks being arrested has prompted the Met to investigate.

The arrests have been broken down by ethnicity in a report sent last month to the Metropolitan Police Authority (MPA), to which the force is accountable.

It reveals that between April 2005 and January this year the units generated 2,023 arrests. Of these 923 were black suspects, while 738 (36%) came from white backgrounds. Asians accounted for just over 9% of arrests.

The report tacitly appears to address concerns among ethnic minority communities who believe they are unfairly targeted by the police through stop and search powers. Black people are up to six times more likely to be stopped than whites.

The report says: “It is worth stating that out of all our activities, this is the one area where the officer has minimal discretion as they respond to an electronic matching process.”

Last week the Met attempted to explain the high number of arrests among blacks by the fact that they make up a higher proportion of the population in areas such as Southwark and Lewisham in south London, where the ANPR units operate.

However, statistics from the 2001 census show that the highest black population in any borough is no greater than about 25%. The proportion of black people across the capital as a whole is about 11%.

Peter Herbert, an independent member of the MPA and spokesman for the Society of Black Lawyers, said: “The Met really wants to avoid any allegation of disproportionality so they will seek to explain these figures by whatever nuance they can. The targeting of certain boroughs might be justified in terms of some crime, but it’s certainly not justified in terms of all crime.”

Captain Gatso, of Motorists Against Detection, the anti-speed-camera group that uncovered the Met figures, said: “All this does is create a new problem for Sir Ian Blair, the politically correct PC, as ANPR cameras and the databases they are linked to are colour blind.

It is more than a decade ago that Lord Condon, the former Met commissioner, caused controversy when he suggested that young black men were likely to be responsible for most muggings.

Those nasty rascist cameras eh? :lol:

Feel free to move to "off topic" - unless car crime effects house prices!

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And this has what to do with house prices?

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Can't see why this is an issue if a crime has been commited and they've got evidence...

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Can't see why this is an issue if a crime has been commited and they've got evidence...

Exactly! Why do they bother wasting time and resources pondering about such things. If there is evidence then there is nothing to worry about - get on with arresting/convicting whomever has commited the crime!

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And this has what to do with house prices?

Nothing... the same as countless other funny stories on the main board. :D

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Nothing... the same as countless other funny stories on the main board. :D

I wasn't having a dig, just that you may as well have posted in off topic in the first place. I think loads more people read off topic than they used to. It will still get attention (attention seeker :rolleyes: ). ;)

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Can't see why this is an issue if a crime has been commited and they've got evidence...

But it goes directly against the politically correct dogma that crime rates have no relation to skin color, even though that's been disproven again and again world-wide. The very last thing the politically correct mafia want is color-blind policing.

Obviously the government need to create more crimes, in order to turn more law-abiding people into criminals so the police can even out the arrest rates between skin colors.

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You have to laugh at the response of the politically correct when life throws up a result which doesn't fit in with their neat multi-culti world view!

Those nasty rascist cameras eh? :lol:

Feel free to move to "off topic" - unless car crime effects house prices!

Beeaking news: Speed Camera to stand at next election for BNP!

It would still beat labour :lol:

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Nothing... the same as countless other funny stories on the main board. :D

it would had been moved even if you said immigrants are forcing wages down , forcing rents and house prices up. Our monitors is very PC or maybe it's just his boss.

DOES HE NOT KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO THE RIGHT AND THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM

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it would had been moved even if you said immigrants are forcing wages down , forcing rents and house prices up. Our monitors is very PC or maybe it's just his boss.

DOES HE NOT KNOW THAT PEOPLE ARE TURNING TO THE RIGHT AND THAT INCLUDES PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM

To be honest I'm not fussed. I think that this site is far more tolerant of heretical views than many.

Yes it's abit annoying when somebody moves it to off topic straight way and leaves other off topic posts on the main board for days. Still at least such posts don't just disappear!

Running such a site you are NEVER going to please ALL the people. :)

I also suspect some PC twots are quick to press the report button.

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After reading this thread I am now racially conscious and no longer indoctrinated by the ZOG media. Yes, no silverbacks equals no muggings. No muds equals no rapes. I think all immigrants should be sent back, up to and including that annoying **** Colin Jackson. By removing these people, our police can concentrate on drunkeness and hooliganism.

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Surely this is a clear example of why Grammer Schools are failing the public.

We need to outlaw Grammer Schools, create more Comprehensive Academies where our kids can learn to steal cars, evade insurance, joy ride, only then will the balance be more equitable.

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Ah, unreferenced quotes, I love them. Get that from the BNP website did you?

Times online...muppet :rolleyes:

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Its not just the ethnic minorities that get caught. Its people who break the law. I was working for the DVLA in wales and they have set up cameras in scum areas. the upshot was that the databank on the computer was filled up in an hour. the dvla were unable to process all the offenders. the solution was to not put the cameras in the area where the scumbags openly ignore the law.

I suspect the impartial camera has upset the pc brigade because it actually deals with facts and is incapable of understanding the bigger issues.

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This is yet another example of political correctness gone mad. I am starting to feel ashamed of my country and the people in it. Geezz what happened to common sense, if the camera caught them out how the heck can that be racist ????

I think there will be a growing resentment of immigrants in this country soon if this sort of thing carries on. Positive discrimination will force many to hate immigrants as they will be seen to have an unfair advantage over the indigenous people. I have heard many times about police officers who will not arrest blacks for fear of breaking the black quota for that week. If a copper catches a mugger then regardless of his colour he should arrest him and punish him to the maximum extent of the law.

Let the true facts speak for themselves, if it is proven statistically that blacks are more likely to carry knifes, guns, whatever then search them more. If it is proven that middle aged white men commit more fraud then investigate them for fraud more. Come on is not difficult !! Why are we paying the politicians so much money to organise this ? It is so simple.

Come on politicians show a bit of backbone. I hate wishy washy lefties they are ruining this country. :angry:

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I think there will be a growing resentment of immigrants in this country soon if this sort of thing carries on. Positive discrimination will force many to hate immigrants as they will be seen to have an unfair advantage over the indigenous people. I have heard many times about police officers who will not arrest blacks for fear of breaking the black quota for that week. If a copper catches a mugger then regardless of his colour he should arrest him and punish him to the maximum extent of the law.

1. Positive discrimination is a contradiction in terms

2. I have never heard of any police officer refusing to arrest someone based on skin colour.

3. At the station where I work- we get ANPR hits at the rate of about one very 5 minutes. Its impossible to action every hit. We would need to quadruple the number of coppers to action each one. It gives you idea about how lawless our society has become though.............. :ph34r:

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1. Positive discrimination is a contradiction in terms

I’m right with you here mate and I hate what the lefty’s have done by creating it. It benefits no one in the end.

Here’s a definition.

Affirmative action (US English), or positive discrimination (British English), is a policy or a program providing advantages for people of a minority group who are seen to have traditionally been discriminated against, with the aim of creating a more egalitarian society. This consists of preferential access to education, employment, health care, or social welfare.

2. I have never heard of any police officer refusing to arrest someone based on skin colour

:o

I doubt they will openly admit it and tell you. Its not that they blatantly refuse to arrest someone in front of witness’s but they tend not to pull them over or do random searches as they have to maintain a record of how many black / white people they stop and search. London mainly I admit. Should they be seen to stop / arrest more black people than the quota given then they are in trouble. Actually hence the reason for this entire thread, there is obviously monitoring of how many of each race is being arrested. So with this policy in place it stands to reason that a copper on the beat will turn a blind eye to crime by a black person should that coppers black quota be full for that month. There is no way a copper is going to risk being sued for being racist and risk that massive pension they get. It’s a sick world, thanks Labour.

3. At the station where I work- we get ANPR hits at the rate of about one very 5 minutes. Its impossible to action every hit. We would need to quadruple the number of coppers to action each one.

How do you decide which to target then ? Do you still play snooker with cars nowadays ? You know the one where you pull over a red one and then a yellow, green or black one ? In an attempt to thwart this I got a white car, seems to have worked for me so far. :lol:

It gives you idea about how lawless our society has become though..............

Yes it certainly does. Mind you I watched the program on the BBC recently about the disgraceful behaviour of police officers in London. Sitting around all night instead of working, driving past emergency calls, visiting friends instead of being on duty, watching porn on their mobile phones, playing “hide and seek” with police cars and some sort of protection racket going on at a Chinese takeaway ! If the police are behaving like that then I suppose there is nothing for the youth to look up to and respect. I am afraid your colleagues have not only let us down but they seem to have let you down too. I do understand that the law of averages means that there will be some good coppers in it for the right reason but with the government and laws we have at the moment even they are held back from doing their job.

I personally have had a few very disappointing encounters with the police. Quite shocking in fact, I was always a total supporter of the police which didn’t go down too well where I live but I stuck to what I thought was right. I learnt a few things at the time and I have to say I didn’t learn anything new from the BBC program. I wish I had some evidence of what is going on around here but this isn’t supposed to be a personal blog.

I will say this though if I was ever burgled the police aren’t the first people I would call anymore. I would go to the local gangster to find out who the criminal was and get my stuff back the same day. The scary thing is as the police are progressively becoming less effective others are stepping in to their shoes and there does seem to be a growing market for “private” investigation and subsequent often immediate punishments.

Anyway thanks for your reply and I’m sure you are one of the good coppers. ;)

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I doubt they will openly admit it and tell you. Its not that they blatantly refuse to arrest someone in front of witness’s but they tend not to pull them over or do random searches as they have to maintain a record of how many black / white people they stop and search. London mainly I admit. Should they be seen to stop / arrest more black people than the quota given then they are in trouble. Actually hence the reason for this entire thread, there is obviously monitoring of how many of each race is being arrested. So with this policy in place it stands to reason that a copper on the beat will turn a blind eye to crime by a black person should that coppers black quota be full for that month. There is no way a copper is going to risk being sued for being racist and risk that massive pension they get. It’s a sick world, thanks Labour.

How do you decide which to target then ? Do you still play snooker with cars nowadays ? You know the one where you pull over a red one and then a yellow, green or black one ? In an attempt to thwart this I got a white car, seems to have worked for me so far. :lol:

You are wrong. Coppers are measured on how many arrests or stops etc.. they make regardless of race. It is only at the higher management levels (command unit, borough, force/service etc...) etcthat such things are monitored. So your average bobby is going to make as many stops or arrests as he can regardless because this is his best "P.I." (performance indicator). Like I said, on the individual level, constables jus arent measured that way - in the met at least. Altough I do understand where you are coming from. How to decide who to target? Where I work we taget gun crime, violent and sexual or very high value offences. Just dont have the resoucres to deal for every lost Or Stolen or No Insurance... sorry...

Yes it certainly does. Mind you I watched the program on the BBC recently about the disgraceful behaviour of police officers in London. Sitting around all night instead of working, driving past emergency calls, visiting friends instead of being on duty, watching porn on their mobile phones, playing “hide and seek” with police cars and some sort of protection racket going on at a Chinese takeaway ! If the police are behaving like that then I suppose there is nothing for the youth to look up to and respect. I am afraid your colleagues have not only let us down but they seem to have let you down too. I do understand that the law of averages means that there will be some good coppers in it for the right reason but with the government and laws we have at the moment even they are held back from doing their job.

As I recall, that was not in London but a county force. I would also like to point out there was undoubtably 100s of hours of footage of coppers going out of there way to enter into situations that the rest of us avoid like the plague. But of course, that doesnt make good TV does it? it so easy to record a few weeks of heroics and pick out the odd moments of bad behaviour. I wonder how many other professions would stand up to such scruntiny? If the armed forces were subject to even 1% of the media attention the police are, do you really think we would all hold ol' Tommy Atkins in such high romantic regard? Not to run down the lads in green, mind...ex-TA Fusilier myslef...

I personally have had a few very disappointing encounters with the police. Quite shocking in fact, I was always a total supporter of the police which didn’t go down too well where I live but I stuck to what I thought was right. I learnt a few things at the time and I have to say I didn’t learn anything new from the BBC program. I wish I had some evidence of what is going on around here but this isn’t supposed to be a personal blog.

Like I said, perhaps if saw all the other 100s of hours of footage that dont get shown..... before you become too critical of the police, ask yourself what you would be like if you did their job....

I will say this though if I was ever burgled the police aren’t the first people I would call anymore. I would go to the local gangster to find out who the criminal was and get my stuff back the same day. The scary thing is as the police are progressively becoming less effective others are stepping in to their shoes and there does seem to be a growing market for “private” investigation and subsequent often immediate punishments.

whatever... :blink:

Anyway thanks for your reply and I’m sure you are one of the good coppers. ;)

I'm not a copper yet, I'm civvy staff (intelligence analyst)

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OK jonewer

First of all, writing on a forum in bold implies shouting, typical gobby copper wannabe, all mouth and no trousers. So I will treat your post in the way it presents itself.

So your average bobby is going to make as many stops or arrests as he can regardless because this is his best "P.I." (performance indicator).

Hmm… This is very interesting….are you openly confessing that coppers get more points the more times they simply stop people ? I suspected as much. It certainly explains why so many innocent people are pestered by them.

Where I work we taget gun crime, violent and sexual or very high value offences.

Wow another confession….no time to deal with burglaries, stolen cars, stolen bikes, vandalism…etc. I suspected as much. Your boss isn’t going to like you for letting that one out.

As I recall, that was not in London but a county force.

Yeah … county force = just about any city or town where they don’t think they are being watched.

I would also like to point out there was undoubtably 100s of hours of footage of coppers going out of there way to enter into situations that the rest of us avoid like the plague.

Now this is a bit cheeky, many decent people would get involved in stopping crime but we all know damn well that should we ever dare try to help someone or arrest a criminal or even defend ourselves in our own homes we would be arrested by the police and treated like a criminal ourselves with a very high chance of prosecution. The law itself has killed off the good Samaritan.

If the armed forces were subject to even 1% of the media attention the police are, do you really think we would all hold ol' Tommy Atkins in such high romantic regard?

Cheeky aren’t you. That’s a very serious allegation you are making there. How dare you be so pompous to compare yourself to a full time soldier. A soldier never proclaims to be whiter than white, on a moral high ground like the police do. How many coppers do you think would make it past even basic training ? How many coppers would run through enemy trenches, trench warfare is you worst nightmare my friend and then some.

Not to run down the lads in green, mind...ex-TA Fusilier myslef...

Disgraceful…then you should know better. Didn’t you learn anything about respect for your regiment while you were there or were you more interested in the uniform ? I wonder what they would make of you now if they could read this post ! Makes it clear why you are an EX ? TA= hobby weekend soldier. Shame on you.

before you become too critical of the police, ask yourself what you would be like if you did their job....

As have many other decent people in this country. Wow you really hold coppers in a totally different regard to “normal” people don’t you. This is precisely the sort of “we are superior to you” attitude that really annoys the scum that you call the public.

whatever...

yes a difficult one to answer that wasn’t it.

I'm not a copper yet, I'm civvy staff (intelligence analyst)

Ha ha … so you admit you aren’t even in the job ! Oh dear perhaps when you are in the job, assuming they will accept you, perhaps then you can speak with some authority on the subject instead of trying to pass the buck and drag the armed services into this.

In fact I am sure you are just what the coppers are looking for, you will go far in the police force jonewer believe me, you are just the sort of person they want. :lol:

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1. Positive discrimination is a contradiction in terms

2. I have never heard of any police officer refusing to arrest someone based on skin colour.

3. At the station where I work- we get ANPR hits at the rate of about one very 5 minutes. Its impossible to action every hit. We would need to quadruple the number of coppers to action each one. It gives you idea about how lawless our society has become though..............

Well we certainly have certain parts of Leicester were they have plenty of yellow lines but not a traffic warden in site and a disproportional number of these traffic warden working the beat in Leicester are multicultural.

Yet another example of the money for votes scam that’s going on in Leicester but it will soon stop as Leicester is just about to go over the 50-50 threshold with regards Immigrants/whites so their will be little point in buying votes once you have pushed all opposition out

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There are more blacks in prison than in higher education in the UK.

Same in the US, and and rather than admit the obvious conclusion the left seem to think the way to fix the problem is to lower standards at all schools/unis by lowering entry requirements for minorities and other crazy affermitative actions.

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Times online...muppet :rolleyes:

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Thanks. If you post it along with the original quote, then people don't have to ask. See how that works? :rolleyes:

Anyway, so far as I can see, the story is:

1. Police collar more black people than any other racial group as a result of ANPR checks.

2. When providing arrest statistics to the MPA they add a footnote pointing out that the cameras are colourblind.

3. This is PC gone mad.

Have I somehow got hold of the wrong end of the stick? :rolleyes:

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Thanks. If you post it along with the original quote, then people don't have to ask. See how that works? :rolleyes:

Anyway, so far as I can see, the story is:

1. Police collar more black people than any other racial group as a result of ANPR checks.

2. When providing arrest statistics to the MPA they add a footnote pointing out that the cameras are colourblind.

3. This is PC gone mad.

Have I somehow got hold of the wrong end of the stick? :rolleyes:

My pleasure. So you will take back the BNP comment? :rolleyes:

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