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I wonder if recent property purchasers` will sue when the bubble is no more.

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These tossers should be shot. They would sue if they had been given methadone as the government would have been contributing to their poisoning.

Jesus, the only way to give up that shit is to give it up.

Soon they will sue becuse it is against thei human rights to be locked up in prison.

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The claimants' lawyer, Richard Hermer, said they were upset at the short period they were allowed to continue using opiates once they were jailed.

This really is taking the pi$$.

I'm firmly of the view that prison should be no more than a draughty tent in field surrounded by barbed wire, guard towers and minefields. Food should be unpalletable slop and the work hard labour for 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. No work - no food.

Prisons should be self financing NOT a drain on the tax payer.

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This really is taking the pi$$.

I'm firmly of the view that prison should be no more than a draughty tent in field surrounded by barbed wire, guard towers and minefields. Food should be unpalletable slop and the work hard labour for 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. No work - no food.

Prisons should be self financing NOT a drain on the tax payer.

I think you mean "unpalatable".

You a big fan of Theodor Eicke by any chance? You seem to have similar views about correctional facilities. Not that I hold any brief for junkies and other low lifes but your opinions are on the lunatic fringe and the emphasis on barbed wire, guard towers and minefields borders on the fetishistic. You forgot to mention the sign on the gate saying "Arbeit Macht Frei".

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I think you mean "unpalatable".

You a big fan of Theodor Eicke by any chance? You seem to have similar views about correctional facilities. Not that I hold any brief for junkies and other low lifes but your opinions are on the lunatic fringe and the emphasis on barbed wire, guard towers and minefields borders on the fetishistic. You forgot to mention the sign on the gate saying "Arbeit Macht Frei".

Yes I did...welcome to pedants corner.

No I'm not but it boils my piss to see prisoners getting colour TV (no license required), heated rooms, comfy beds, gym facilities etc when our pensioners (many of whom fought against Eicke and his friends) die of cold because they can't afford to heat their homes.

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What get me is these kind of ridiculous law suits are funded by the tax payer in the form of legal aid. It's the government paying to sue itself.

The only winners in the end are the lawyers. Some, like Cherie Blair, have made a small fortune on these kind of cases.

I'm in favour of getting rid of legal aid and replace it with an office of public defenders for criminal cases like they do in the US. If you want better representation then stump up for it yourself or take out a litigation insurance policy.

Since all of the main parties are stuffed full of lawyers, the chances of this happening are zilch.

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Actually, why not wean them off properly instead of making it a horsetour no-one can gain from? And why bother weaning them off anyway?

They should be in this position in the first place, smack should be on prescription instead of being in the hands of criminal gangs.

Junkies that get clean smack are fully functional people and can hold down jobs etc, it is the muck in the drugs and it's illegality that is the problem.

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Junkies that get clean smack are fully functional people and can hold down jobs etc, it is the muck in the drugs and it's illegality that is the problem.

Hear! Hear!

The "War on Drugs" has already been lost. Its just the politicians who are too weak to admit it.... keep pouring £billions down the drain because "Tough On Drugs" makes for a good election soundbite.

I think you mean "unpalatable".

You a big fan of Theodor Eicke by any chance? You seem to have similar views about correctional facilities. Not that I hold any brief for junkies and other low lifes but your opinions are on the lunatic fringe and the emphasis on barbed wire, guard towers and minefields borders on the fetishistic. You forgot to mention the sign on the gate saying "Arbeit Macht Frei".

But he is not the only one is galled by having to pay for criminals to live in 5 star luxury hotels at the taxpayers expense. Prison should be an absolutely horrible place to be. Anyone who has gone to prison should tremble and quake in fear of being sent back. It is absoluetly imperative that prison is seen as a deterent and not just the minor inconvinience it is at the moment.

I am a bit of a radical when it comes to crime and punishment. Some would say that I'm draconian. They'd probably be right.

I'm all in favour of corporal punishment for violent criminals- with a bit of jail time thrown in...... make it a punlic spectacle again! Just think of the money that could be made out of the TV rights! Reailty Flogging!

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Another triumph for NuLabour's Human Rights Act (1998), keeps lots of NuLawyers in work... and thus destroys other peoples' reward for work, and eventually we end up in a socialist utopia or something like that.

God knows why we want to actually buy a house in this morally inverted country.

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These tossers should be shot. They would sue if they had been given methadone as the government would have been contributing to their poisoning.

Jesus, the only way to give up that shit is to give it up.

Soon they will sue becuse it is against thei human rights to be locked up in prison.

I heard on the radio today that some prisoner was let free because it was against his human rights to locked up any longer. I forget what his original crime was, but the prisoner in question has now been arrested for murder.

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Human Right legislation AFAIK takes precedence over all other legislation

I've said this in a previous post, but it's pointless having any other legislation at all if this is the case....

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Human Right legislation AFAIK takes precedence over all other legislation

Ultimately it decends from an activist European court and thus royally phuks our primary legislation. That nutty tory fringe from way back when did actually have a point, it's just that we couldn't see it at the time.

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I think you mean "unpalatable".

You a big fan of Theodor Eicke by any chance? You seem to have similar views about correctional facilities. Not that I hold any brief for junkies and other low lifes but your opinions are on the lunatic fringe and the emphasis on barbed wire, guard towers and minefields borders on the fetishistic. You forgot to mention the sign on the gate saying "Arbeit Macht Frei".

i think prisons should be 23hrs locked up double cell. bread and water diet. no smoking. no radio. no tv.

and dont do it again.

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i think prisons should be 23hrs locked up double cell. bread and water diet. no smoking. no radio. no tv.

What about a holy book? Or would they just use that to roll spliffs?

Nice to see you about Fred, aye up.

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Actually, why not wean them off properly instead of making it a horsetour no-one can gain from? And why bother weaning them off anyway?

They should be in this position in the first place, smack should be on prescription instead of being in the hands of criminal gangs.

Junkies that get clean smack are fully functional people and can hold down jobs etc, it is the muck in the drugs and it's illegality that is the problem.

:(

I agree that the government has 2 choices in the "War on Drugs"

1) Legalise all drugs as prohibition simply puts drug profits in the hands of criminals & terrorists.

or

2) Fight the War as though you mean to win. Gloves off. Stop fannying about.

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I agree that the government has 2 choices in the "War on Drugs"

1) Legalise all drugs as prohibition simply puts drug profits in the hands of criminals & terrorists.

or

2) Fight the War as though you mean to win. Gloves off. Stop fannying about.

Number 1 please :D

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****** to prison ...... give em all the death penalty ...... problem solved :D

Kill 2 birds with stone:

Reduce the tax burden on the hard working few buy chopping up the UK prison population and feeding them to the starving Africans.

By doing the above you increase my standard of living and solve the famine problem in Africa.

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Kill 2 birds with stone:

Reduce the tax burden on the hard working few buy chopping up the UK prison population and feeding them to the starving Africans.

By doing the above you increase my standard of living and solve the famine problem in Africa.

I think you'll find half the UK prison population ARE Africans. :o

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But he is not the only one is galled by having to pay for criminals to live in 5 star luxury hotels at the taxpayers expense. Prison should be an absolutely horrible place to be. Anyone who has gone to prison should tremble and quake in fear of being sent back. It is absoluetly imperative that prison is seen as a deterent and not just the minor inconvinience it is at the moment.

Agreed, prisons shouldn't be holiday camps, but neither should they be death camps, which seemed to be what Solvent Celt was suggesting. I accept it's an emotive subject though and I share the frustration of other posters on this thread that our justice system seems to be in meltdown.

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"I think you'll find half the UK prison population ARE Africans. :o"

Not PC ..... but true none the less !!

I hate the ******** about deprived areas and lack of opportunities - all just excuses to justify certain sections of the population .....

While we are killing all the criminals ..... might be worth looking at killing all the unemployed too ......

The massive amount of money saved from the Penal System and Social Security, plus the reduction in crime and social disorder ...... could actually make this country worth living in again ......

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should be no more than a draughty tent in field surrounded by barbed wire, guard towers and minefields. Food should be unpalletable slop and the work hard labour for 12 hours a day 7 days a week 365 days a year. No work - no food.

Sounds like getting on the property ladder at the moment to me.

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