Some Landlords Are In For A Nasty Surprise

[Bubble Pop Electric]

Sorry, I know a lot of you don't like us, but this is hot from the BNP website:

Private landlords who have agreed contracts with local authorities to house asylum seekers could face a nasty surprise in the form of hidden council tax bills.

A whistleblower at the Department of Work and Pensions, shocked by the announcement last week that Labour needs to cut 30,000 jobs to save money, has leaked details to the BNP press team which could spell gloom for thousands of private landlords who have let their properties out to local councils for use as accommodation by asylum seekers.

Asylum seekers entering the UK are provided with rent free accommodation equipped with all manner of domestic goods that we have listed in the Joint Tenancy Agreement on previous occasions – the full text of the document can be found here. However since 2000 the payment of council tax is not covered and thousands of landlords have misleadingly believed that council tax is paid by the tenant himself or by benefits. Stories are now coming to light of landlords at the start of this financial year facing bills for arrears dating back for the past five financial years to when a change in legislation was effected. One landlord in a London Borough, who raised his concerns with the DWP faces a bill of just over £4,000 in council tax arrears.

New advice

It appears that many local authorities in England (where the change occurred) have only now, in 2006, been made aware by their external auditors that the change in legislation in 2000 switched responsibility from the tenant to the landlord where the tenant is a registered asylum seeker, thus heralding a wave of demands for unpaid council tax.

A solicitor for one of the landlords in correspondence with the DWP makes the point that his client has actually been made liable for the tax retrospectively because the property was let out in 1999 before the change in law and the contract has never been revised.

The Law

Statutory Instrument 2000 No. 537 The Council Tax (Liability for Owners) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2000,

States:

From 3rd April 2000 asylum seekers who appear to be destitute will receive accommodation and other essential living needs under section 95 of the Immigration and Asylum Act 1999, and will not be eligible for benefits including council tax benefit. These Regulations provide that the council tax liability for any accommodation provided under section 95, will fall on the owner of the accommodation as opposed to the resident asylum seeker.

How many landlords must now be regretting the day they decided to open their doors to those individuals who claim hardship, destitution and persecution, only to be ripped off by the very government which has created Soft Touch Britain?

[Time to raise the rents.]

They should raise the rent that the council has to pay then so they have the money for the council tax bill. Simple.

[Bubble Pop Electric]

Bit late for that when it's backdated for 5 years.

[CrashConnoisseur]

'Statutory Instrument 2000 No. 537: The Council Tax (Liability for Owners) (Amendment) (England) Regulations 2000':

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/si/si2000/20000537.htm

[BuyingBear]

They should raise the rent that the council has to pay then so they have the money for the council tax bill. Simple.

It's a fixed market, the rent is proscribed by government, just as your private rents will be fixed and limited when the socialists take charge.

[Solvent Celt]

Let's see how many of these scumbags Slum Landlords will be thrown into clink for non payment.

Gosh combine it with the new rules for HMO and it's not looking too good is it?

[BuyingBear]

Gosh combine it with the new rules for HMO and it's not looking too good is it?

Remember BTL'ers now have to register with the local tax authority. It's very nice of the middle-classes to provide the 21st century version of subsidized social housing, the Rosie's of this world are very kind hearted and generous.

[eurows]

Register

Hand over the deposit

next.........

[sam]

They should raise the rent that the council has to pay then so they have the money for the council tax bill. Simple.

Are you really such low life bit of scum, or are you just having a laugh.

I am starting to get the impression that maybe you are not from the UK, so you really do not give a toss to what is happening to the UK.

This Country is heading for riots and anachy the way it is going, people paying their taxes but being forced to live in bedsits must be seething when they hesr their tax is being used to house immigrants.

I can see organised groups taking the law into their own hands and fire bombing BTL's if we are not carefull.

[CrashIsUnderWay]

no, he's scum.

I'm actually old enough to remember the thatcher years - back in 1980-ish, being a landlord was a nightmare. It's only in about the last 17 years or so that it has become seen as a recipe for riches.

TTRTR is like others of his ilk, they have made some money 'accidentally' while it rose, and thus can not believe it will ever fall.

17 years aint so long. We may be witnessing the end of the 'golden age' of landlordism, where profits were easy, tax breaks were generous, and the smart got out last year.

[look to the past]

Yep the smart got out

But the dumb never got in – missed the boat completely

[Time to raise the rents.]

no, he's scum.

I'm actually old enough to remember the thatcher years - back in 1980-ish, being a landlord was a nightmare. It's only in about the last 17 years or so that it has become seen as a recipe for riches.

TTRTR is like others of his ilk, they have made some money 'accidentally' while it rose, and thus can not believe it will ever fall.

17 years aint so long. We may be witnessing the end of the 'golden age' of landlordism, where profits were easy, tax breaks were generous, and the smart got out last year.

Old enough to have had the bird in your hand & let it go!

You are a BIGGER FOOL than I thought.

[teddyboy]

OMFG!!!

This is exactly what is happening to my GF's DAD!

The immigrants are NOT paying the council tax and say its not their responsibility. It looks like they are right!!!

GOOD SPOT!!!

BNP being useful

TB

[Unexpected]

Yep the smart got out

But the dumb never got in – missed the boat completely

And how much gold did you buy a year ago?

[look to the past]

And how much gold did you buy a year ago?

There are a lot of boats out there

Some have sailed and some are sailing – BTL has sunk / sinking – same as gold (possibly)

I missed the BTL and the gold boat – just hoping the STR boat is still afloat

But I’m still sailing on the boat of love.

[eurows]

There are a lot of boats out there

Some have sailed and some are sailing – BTL has sunk / sinking – same as gold (possibly)

I missed the BTL and the gold boat – just hoping the STR boat is still afloat

But I’m still sailing on the boat of love.

AAAAAHHHHHHHH

NOW GET BACK TO WORK

[CrashIsUnderWay]

Old enough to have had the bird in your hand & let it go!

You are a BIGGER FOOL than I thought.

I've got more money than you, shit4brains.

And btw, if I eat a curry, the next day I cr@p out more intelligent things than you.

[look to the past]

But I suppose I'm wasting my time....

No your not wasting your time – we all read your reply – and we don’t all agree with Bubble Pop Electric- I think most people like immigration and cultural diversion – we just don’t like what we are seeing in the UK –

Unfortunately the choice in leaders who will show us the way is very limited – like picking your favourite colour from shades of grey.

[Solvent Celt]

Bubble Pop Electric,

'Sorry, I know a lot of you don't like us.'

I wouldn't go quite that far. It's just that if you could see that there are coloured Britons which PAY thei tax, contribute to the country and actually represent Britain in national sports, and actually ACCEPT THEM, you'd be closer to government in a decade or two than Lib Dems.

I'm not saying ditch the policy of STOPPING IMMIGRATION just you can't logically protest against people who have been living in these shores for several generations.

But I suppose I'm wasting my time....

An ethno natiuonalist is never going to accept those from outside the nation as members of it. To think otherwise is to be pi$$ing into the wind. However the BNP has ALREADY changed to a position of not proposing compulsory re-patriation of non ethnic Brits residing here legally.

[Bubble Pop Electric]

Bubble Pop Electric,

'Sorry, I know a lot of you don't like us.'

I wouldn't go quite that far. It's just that if you could see that there are coloured Britons which PAY thei tax, contribute to the country and actually represent Britain in national sports, and actually ACCEPT THEM, you'd be closer to government in a decade or two than Lib Dems.

I'm not saying ditch the policy of STOPPING IMMIGRATION just you can't logically protest against people who have been living in these shores for several generations.

But I suppose I'm wasting my time....

I've got nothing against anyone who wants to just knuckle down & get on with life, no matter where they come from, what colour they are, what religion they believe in, or anything else. I don't even blame people for travelling half way around the World to get here. How could you? Let's face it, if you lived in a hut without 2 beans to your name & you heard of a place where you could get a free house, free food, free healthcare, etc, etc, etc, then you'd obviously go - who wouldn't? They're only trying to put food on the table for their kids & get a better standard of living like everyone else.

What I DO have a problem with, is that the UK shouldn't be the great place where you just turn up & everything is free. We need to be tougher on who we grant asylum to, & we should make the scavenging indiginous layabouts get of their lazy a*ses & "do the jobs no one wants to" - they shouldn't have a choice. 2.5 million on incapacity benefits - you're 'avin a larf!

We simply cannot afford to keep taking on free lodgers at the rate that we are - there's no wonder the place is falling apart.

The problem lies fairly & squarly with spineless, self interested politicians who daren't say "no" to any one who even remotely falls into a minority category.

This also leads me to my major bug bear. If people want to come here for a better life, they should accept that they're coming to ENGLAND, & they should expect to live like the English do. Not moan & groan & demand that we turn the country into a mini home from home for them. We have our own culture, which forms a part of our own personal identities, & I'm sick & tired of hearing people who've come over here complaining because, essentially, the country is too British.

[AgeingBabyBoomer]

Oh dear,

Landlords getting ripped off - makes my heart bleed.

I thought being a landlord was all about buying up all

the affordable accomodation, and renting it back to those

that can no longer afford to buy.

They play golf alll day, then they cash up the equity for a

nice fat pension, all paid for by the tenants or local council

as appropriate.

So there's no such thing as a free lunch after all - poor fellows

ABB

Edited May 8, 2006 by AgeingBabyBoomer

[Flat Bear]

I've got nothing against anyone who wants to just knuckle down & get on with life, no matter where they come from, what colour they are, what religion they believe in, or anything else. I don't even blame people for travelling half way around the World to get here. How could you? Let's face it, if you lived in a hut without 2 beans to your name & you heard of a place where you could get a free house, free food, free healthcare, etc, etc, etc, then you'd obviously go - who wouldn't? They're only trying to put food on the table for their kids & get a better standard of living like everyone else.

What I DO have a problem with, is that the UK shouldn't be the great place where you just turn up & everything is free. We need to be tougher on who we grant asylum to, & we should make the scavenging indiginous layabouts get of their lazy a*ses & "do the jobs no one wants to" - they shouldn't have a choice. 2.5 million on incapacity benefits - you're 'avin a larf!

We simply cannot afford to keep taking on free lodgers at the rate that we are - there's no wonder the place is falling apart.

The problem lies fairly & squarly with spineless, self interested politicians who daren't say "no" to any one who even remotely falls into a minority category.

This also leads me to my major bug bear. If people want to come here for a better life, they should accept that they're coming to ENGLAND, & they should expect to live like the English do. Not moan & groan & demand that we turn the country into a mini home from home for them. We have our own culture, which forms a part of our own personal identities, & I'm sick & tired of hearing people who've come over here complaining because, essentially, the country is too British.

Yep

May be those immigrants that did accept this would be looked apon in a different light and welcomed by the people not just NuLab

[Justice]

You only need to deny an immigrant the right to a roof over his head and all the other immigrants come out in support and this is why they get housed on arrival and we have white folks on the streets.

I want to see a level playing field and those spending our money should be monitored as it’s scandalous just how much money in places like Leicester is wasted on making the new arrivals feel at home, as in Pakistan

Government is not listening to the people so it’s no wonder people are starting to get upset and when these same people find that a immigrant has taken their job then expect trouble.