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He has had numerous opportunities and he has always backed away from a fight.

True, but he's a third-rater: he actually seems to think that a power-crazed psycho like Blair will just hand over number 10 to him. Now Blair just has to hold out a few months until rates start going up and Brown will be history.

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It looks like Tony wants to wait until only the funnels are left above the water before he steps down.

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name='New Darker Law' date='May 7 2006, 02:02 AM' post='369380']

John Reid will go for the top job. He is far more ruthless than GB.

He is already flying kites since his move to the home office.

Moderately against introducing a smoking ban

Very strongly for introducing ID cards

Very strongly for introducing foundation hospitals

Very strongly for introducing student top-up fees

Very strongly for Labour's anti-terrorism laws

Very strongly for the Iraq war

Quite strongly for equal gay rights

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It doesnt matter who is in the hotseat, they are all part of the extremist, Scottish Socialist Group setup to destroy the UK, the Citizens of the UK, and the employment and economics of the UK.

Sorry but the Conservatives will win the next election, so its a good job they built terminal 5 dispatch centre at Heathrow because its going to take years to deport all the illegals living in the UK today.

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Its his own damn fault. He has had numerous opportunities and he has always backed away from a fight.

Agree. He is not showing any leadership qualities.

I’d pi55 myself if there is a leadership challenge

And some one else wins instead of Brown :lol:

Edited by burnt before

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Lets face it, New Labour in any shape or form is now unelectable.

They have shown themselves to eclipse previous political sleeze, and now include things such as war crimes into their agenda, even suggesting the Geneva Convention should be ignored as its out of date in todays world.

Bye Bye New Labour, another load of muppets off the shop floor who could not run a bath but are happy to rob the working classes of the shirts on their backs.

Blair/Brown/Prescott, Champagne Socialists who's time is now up.

We are counting the days.

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I’d pi55 myself if there is a leadership challenge

Me too as I reckon Blair will stand in a leadership election which will destroy NuLab

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if blair was true to the job he would know its time to go and a smooth handover would be best for the party.

seeing that isnt happeneing makes me wonder just how commited TB is to the british people.

it all seems so personal. but its time to go.

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What difference would Brown make?.

He is in tune with the Nu Labour ideals to the core, in fact I think it was Blair who put the brakes on Many of Browns hair brained schemes.

The best one of course is educating the entire population of Africa at British Taxpayers expense whilst the NHS lays of tens of thousands of staff, and cancels life saving operations on the basis of economics.

Nu Labour are finished, people had better wake up and smell the coffee.

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if blair was true to the job he would know its time to go and a smooth handover would be best for the party.

seeing that isnt happeneing makes me wonder just how commited TB is to the british people.

it all seems so personal. but its time to go.

Since when is "what is best for the party" = "best for British people"? Lol! It would be best for the party if they never had pesky local elections, but they happen anyway.

Blair wants the job more than Brown - that's all. Brown should put up, or shut up.

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In a very deep sense I think Blair is characteristic of our times - someone who would rather trash everything around them than let go. There seems to be a mindset to his age group that intends to hang on to everything they've got to the bitter end. Blair and his cronies know full well about global warming and environmental degradation, yet they promote cheap flights, build more runways and roads, and keep the price of motoring below that of public transport. They also promote economic growth as the be-all and end-all despite evidence to show it doesn't make people happier or more fulfilled. In this respect Brown is even worse, he's got the full-on "work is a moral imperative" Victorian mind-set, from the days when individual output really mattered. Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people could stop working in the UK tomorrow and it would probably be a better place. Less rubbish coming through the door to start with. Work has become a sham, a mechanism to ensure people have enough money to keep the hamster wheel turning, whether what they do is worthwhile or not.

When it comes to housing, he's greedy and selfish - owns several, is leveraged to the eyeballs, and knows a drop in the economy will be personally devastating for his finances. And he obviously doesn't trust anybody else to run the economy as he sees fit, that is, in his interests.

He is the epitome of the me me me selfish generation, not those in their 20s and 30s but those in their 50s, 60s and 70s, the ones who've never had it so good and are the main beneficiaries of globalisation. (Before anybody pops up to object that this is "boomer bashing", please note it is aimed at a certain group/type of people, who exist in every generation. It is just that the economic forces that Blair, Brown, Bush and others have unleashed have exacerbated this. It is also aggravated by the fact that people generally are living longer and remain fitter and healthier into their 50s adn 60s than used to be generally the case.)

Blair's epitaph - sheer utter selfishness and greed at whatever cost to anybody else. Some legacy.

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All Gordon Brown has to do is to resign as Chancellor, this would really put the wind up Tony then.

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All Gordon Brown has to do is to resign as Chancellor, this would really put the wind up Tony then.

Good thought Sam,

Tony really would feel isolated if that happened.

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Maybe that's Brown's plan: use this as a good excuse to get out of number 11 before the bubble goes pop.

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John Reid will go for the top job. He is far more ruthless than GB.

He is already flying kites since his move to the home office.

NDL

Isn't there supposed to be some sort of in-built antipathy amongst the British electorate about voting for a baldie?

(I speak as someone who has a friend who might possibly be folliclly challenged ;) )

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Good thought Sam,

Tony really would feel isolated if that happened.

I think Brown's whole problem is that he doesn't want to be seen as "the assassin" and resigning as Chancellor would be such a blatant move, it would count as that. His acolytes seem to accept the mantra that the assassin never gets the job (viz Heseltine). But by waiting and waiting he is possibly doing himself more damage than if he just went for it and knifed Blair. Blair wouldn't hesitate before knifing Brown, and will probably try to do so anyway by tarring Brown with the "old Labour" brush.

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Maybe that's Brown's plan: use this as a good excuse to get out of number 11 before the bubble goes pop.

Wouldn't that mean he would be jobless! I would like to see Tony sack him :-D

Can he do that? :unsure:

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Isn't there supposed to be some sort of in-built antipathy amongst the British electorate about voting for a baldie?

(I speak as someone who has a friend who might possibly be folliclly challenged ;) )

I think you may be right.

Kinnock, Hague and Howard.

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Isn't there supposed to be some sort of in-built antipathy amongst the British electorate about voting for a baldie?

(I speak as someone who has a friend who might possibly be folliclly challenged ;) )

i've got a friend like that too ;)

but unlike mark oaten it hasn't driven him into "3 in a bed rent boy shame":-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,17...2170150,00.html

oh no - no midlife crisis around my friend, i can tell you

now anyone seen the keys for my harley davidson? :P

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They also promote economic growth as the be-all and end-all despite evidence to show it doesn't make people happier or more fulfilled. [munro]

It makes politicians happier and more fulfilled as they have more tax revenue to waste.

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