kingofnowhere Report post Posted May 2, 2006 http://www.bba.org.uk/bba/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=145&a=7114 And FWIW Previous March Value Number2000 mar £5,255 75,7722001 mar £6,494 85,1042002 mar £8,231 97,0342003 mar £6,232 72,8082004 mar £10,682 97,8522005 Mar £8,185 64,3722006 Mar £11,513 85,698 I'll revise up my estimate of BOE Approvals to 122K, on the back of these strong numbers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spring In The Air Report post Posted May 2, 2006 http://www.bba.org.uk/bba/jsp/polopoly.jsp?d=145&a=7114 And FWIW Previous March Value Number2000 mar £5,255 75,7722001 mar £6,494 85,1042002 mar £8,231 97,0342003 mar £6,232 72,8082004 mar £10,682 97,8522005 Mar £8,185 64,3722006 Mar £11,513 85,698 I'll revise up my estimate of BOE Approvals to 122K, on the back of these strong numbers We're only looking for evidence that supports the CRASH scenario here. Bullish posts will be seen for what they are, BULLISH!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Converted Lurker Report post Posted May 2, 2006 We're only looking for evidence that supports the CRASH scenario here. Bullish posts will be seen for what they are, BULLISH!!!! Could you try harder with the avatar please Far better to use one direct from a url...here you go try this for size....http://spacemanbob.com/blogger/forum_trolls.jpg Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OzzMosiz Report post Posted May 2, 2006 2006 Mar £11,513 85,698[/code] I'll revise up my estimate of BOE Approvals to 122K, on the back of these strong numbers The amount is only high due to over-inflated house prices! Just proof that prices are insane! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMupNorth Report post Posted May 2, 2006 This is worth bumping back to the top, becuase its the most important piece of news for the short term i.e next 3-4 months as relates to house prices. These really are mega figures if you are looking for a boom in house prices - they really do under pin what just about everybody with an ounce of balance has been reporting that there are a lot more for sale and sold boards around. The lending figures are very very strong and means we can expect some pretty robust price rises in the coming few months. Add this to the strong figures relating to retail sales, expanding economic performance then a boom is on the cards. I will grant you however, that it may make the BoE consider putting rates up, but all that will do is curb the growth that is clearly building up, but it won't make prices crash when things are going so well. ............ and is the £ crashing, NOPE .......... remember from just a few weeks a go when the mentalists were telling you the £ was going to crash because our economy was down the pan, and as soon as the Yanks raise interest rates above ours we were all doomed ... yeah right ! NOT !!!!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the end is a bit nigher Report post Posted May 2, 2006 This is worth bumping back to the top, becuase its the most important piece of news for the short term i.e next 3-4 months as relates to house prices. These really are mega figures if you are looking for a boom in house prices - they really do under pin what just about everybody with an ounce of balance has been reporting that there are a lot more for sale and sold boards around. nothing selling at all in hgte and surrounding area - market is well and truely dead - rentals falling too ............ and is the £ crashing, NOPE .......... remember from just a few weeks a go when the mentalists were telling you the £ was going to crash because our economy was down the pan, and as soon as the Yanks raise interest rates above ours we were all doomed ... yeah right ! NOT !!!!! i would probably be classed as a 'mentalist' but 2 weeks ago I posted that the £ had gone through 1.76$ and was about to go a lot higher - i'm very pleased to say it has i think more than a few people are in for a shock, especially those on variable rate mortgages Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
teddyboy Report post Posted May 2, 2006 (edited) Well god knows what their spending their money on coz it dont seem to be housing Thesew graphs show volumes of sales for each quarter - Its been DROPPING SINCE 2005!! http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...=40#entry365256 TB Edited May 2, 2006 by teddyboy Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IMupNorth Report post Posted May 2, 2006 nothing selling at all in hgte and surrounding area - market is well and truely dead - rentals falling too i would probably be classed as a 'mentalist' but 2 weeks ago I posted that the £ had gone through 1.76$ and was about to go a lot higher - i'm very pleased to say it has i think more than a few people are in for a shock, especially those on variable rate mortgages Pity the rest of Yorkshire is not like Harrogate then ! - 9% up YoY as a whole, Harrogate stands out like a sore thumb for some unknown reason. Just checked my list, you are not on my list of mentalists - that term is reserved for real nutters, and they know who they are ! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
the end is a bit nigher Report post Posted May 2, 2006 Pity the rest of Yorkshire is not like Harrogate then ! - 9% up YoY as a whole, Harrogate stands out like a sore thumb for some unknown reason. Just checked my list, you are not on my list of mentalists - that term is reserved for real nutters, and they know who they are ! i honestly believe hgte has reached the point where people just cant afford to pay any more - we seem to be at the point where the difference between 1 rung and the next is so great that even salary increases and built up equity can't help having said that, i wasnt convinced bythe halifax's 9% drop - i did see a small drop, maybe 5% on roads such as dragon avenue which i know well, but i also think the lack of sales of houses over £300k had an impact, i.e. a slightly different mix i'm glad i'm not on the nutters list although I do think IRs will go up next and a lot of people will be surprised Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Golden Shower Report post Posted May 2, 2006 We're only looking for evidence that supports the CRASH scenario here. Bullish posts will be seen for what they are, BULLISH!!!! Even worse, some bears may see this as adding to their cause. IMO, this will probably lead to some serious HPI down the road, the BoE will probably have to start thinking about those rate rises soon. Well, how many wanted to see evidence of a spring bounce? Here it is. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spline Report post Posted May 2, 2006 (edited) This figure of 85k/month NSA for March from the BBA is surprisingly large and up 33% on the previous March. And as the BBA typically get between 58% and 65% of all lending for house purchase, and they are currently towards the lower part of that range, their figure of 85k/month would be consistent with the BoE announcing an eye-popping 140k NSA on Thursday, or, using a –11.5% March seasonal correction, somewhere close to 125k SA. Obviously it can be converted into an implied annualised HPI as per previous threads. Edited May 2, 2006 by spline Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dames Report post Posted May 2, 2006 Mortgage market slows to walking pace Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Realistbear Report post Posted May 2, 2006 The same phenomena is happening in the US--rising borrowing for houses against a backdrop of falling prices: http://money.iwon.com/jsp/nw/nwdt_rt_top.j...ias/money/cm/nw People are re-financing to cash out. In the UK many are taking on new loans at fixed rates due to fear of hikes coming down the pipeline soon. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
spline Report post Posted May 2, 2006 Of course, this March 85k is the number of approvals for house purchase and excludes remortgaging or other secured lending. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
El_Pirata Report post Posted May 2, 2006 This is worth bumping back to the top, becuase its the most important piece of news for the short term i.e next 3-4 months as relates to house prices. These really are mega figures if you are looking for a boom in house prices - they really do under pin what just about everybody with an ounce of balance has been reporting that there are a lot more for sale and sold boards around. The lending figures are very very strong and means we can expect some pretty robust price rises in the coming few months. Add this to the strong figures relating to retail sales, expanding economic performance then a boom is on the cards. I will grant you however, that it may make the BoE consider putting rates up, but all that will do is curb the growth that is clearly building up, but it won't make prices crash when things are going so well. I agree that this is a bullish indicator for the next few months. But you ought to see it for what it is - overheating. In the context of soaring oil and commodity prices, it is a dangerous development for the economy and the BoE are well aware of that. Concern is growing in academic circles and think tanks about runaway money supply growth, and an opinion is starting to form that interest rates alone are an insufficient tool for controlling inflation - money supply must also be tackled. The "shadow" MPC are already close to voting for a rise - 5 of them believe a rise will be necessary in the next few months, even if they are voting for no change. One little rate cut managed to spark a revival in the housing market, on the belief that rates had reached their peak and were on the way down. What will the psychological impact of a rate rise be, not just on Joe Public but on the banks that have to decide how much money they are willing to lend? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
delite1 Report post Posted May 3, 2006 I agree that this is a bullish indicator for the next few months. But you ought to see it for what it is - overheating. In the context of soaring oil and commodity prices, it is a dangerous development for the economy and the BoE are well aware of that. Concern is growing in academic circles and think tanks about runaway money supply growth, and an opinion is starting to form that interest rates alone are an insufficient tool for controlling inflation - money supply must also be tackled. The "shadow" MPC are already close to voting for a rise - 5 of them believe a rise will be necessary in the next few months, even if they are voting for no change. One little rate cut managed to spark a revival in the housing market, on the belief that rates had reached their peak and were on the way down. What will the psychological impact of a rate rise be, not just on Joe Public but on the banks that have to decide how much money they are willing to lend? And this time the rate rises will not be for the sake of "tinkering" with the UK housing market they will be because of worldwide trends and the end of the carry trade.This will devastate the idea of cheap money. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites