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Im all for the destruction of every form of welfare and nannyism that has been created in this country over the last 60 odd years.

The nhs should be disbanded

instead the money that we are paying for it should be halved and then giving out to each citizen as an medical insurance policy, thus they can then go to whatever private hospital and private doctor they wish.

schools should be disbanded

instead once again each child giving a school attendance policy and thus able to spend it by attendence at any school of there chosen, this will cut out all the crazy wacky schemes and give parents a say in what is taught to there children under the private sector

the welfare state should be disbanded, with only the real needy giving anything through means testing including pensions.There is no point in taking money in to them distribute it back to the same people via tax credits ect, its all just shuffling the same money around which costs a fortune.

Infact the government needs to stop being a nanny and start being soley an accountant and keeper of laws, that is all we realy need from the state.

It realy is time we stopped pandering to those that are doing well outta the present system, and throw them all into the deep end of more efficient commerce.

Lets face it its the reason we have such high taxes for the same services as many other countries, its why a gallon of petrol here is so expensive and a pint of beer or a packet of cigs, or council tax ect ect ect.We are taxing the populance to pay for a broken system.

And its time to stop paying for it and let them sink or swim as a buisness.

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I would like to propose a ban of all retired people from going to the supermarket at weekends.

These people have all week - every day - to get their groceries, they should not join the horde at the weekend.

Welcome to the world of Donnie! :lol:

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I'm not sure which countries pay less tax, but have better services.

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Not at all, the state sector is all we will have left in the coming decades, it expand ever further, enough to make even Marx blush. We will not be able to fund it of course, we can't at the moment, so it will just mean more debts, hopefully well hidden in Enron style PFI's, and simple monetisation of debt with the printing presses running on full steam.

People now have many rights and demand things, this ship ain't going down without a bloody good party ;)

Im all for the destruction of every form of welfare and nannyism that has been created in this country over the last 60 odd years.

You should tell your little friends, this doesn't sit well with their national socialistic principles. :ph34r:

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There's an off-topic forum for a reason y'know. :P

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The nhs should be disbanded

instead the money that we are paying for it should be halved and then giving out to each citizen as an medical insurance policy, thus they can then go to whatever private hospital and private doctor they wish.

Just hope you do not get a chronic illness. I bet your money would not go far towards your insurance policy.

Maybe a simple solution would be to get rid of most of the managers, most of the meetings and all the pointless paperwork. If it was not for the crappy compo culture we could do away with most of the health and safety shit which must cost millions. (I got a safety sheet on water the other day. Dangerous by inhalation!) The cost of agenda for change (waste of time) must be obscene! There are whole departments that could be shrunk to half the size.

However, even though it is pants it should be fixed not chucked away. The idea is a good one.

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So much bad press about the NHS. But thisis my experience of it this week.

At night I have strange chest pains. At 8.45am I call my GP. At 10am I have an appointment and she finds a heart murmur. She sends me for tests to the brand new University College Hospital. No need for an appointment. I head straight there. I walk in, it is light and sparkling clean. A nice little old lady greeter comes up to me as soon as I walk in the door and tells me where I need to go for each test. I take a ticket for the blood test queue and have to wait approx. 3 minutes. Next I head for my ECG. Wait approx. 5 mins. Then downstairs for an x-ray, wait approx 10 mins.

So with 4 hours of making the phone call, I have seen my GP and had all the tests I need done and a sparkling brand new hospital. You will not get better free health care anywhere in the world.

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"You will not get better free health care anywhere in the world."

But it's not free as we are paying NI and Taxes for it and MP's are all getting rich by tweaking the figures and insider deals.

Our social systems are breaking down and it's not becuse of the people but our MP's and all the dirty deals.

Did you know that in one hospitial sergical gloves cost 40p a pair and in another the very same gloves come in at a whopping £1.40 and yet we are not allowed to question this.

The country is ran by the Mafia and the sooner people see this the better.

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So much bad press about the NHS. But thisis my experience of it this week.

At night I have strange chest pains. At 8.45am I call my GP. At 10am I have an appointment and she finds a heart murmur. She sends me for tests to the brand new University College Hospital. No need for an appointment. I head straight there. I walk in, it is light and sparkling clean. A nice little old lady greeter comes up to me as soon as I walk in the door and tells me where I need to go for each test. I take a ticket for the blood test queue and have to wait approx. 3 minutes. Next I head for my ECG. Wait approx. 5 mins. Then downstairs for an x-ray, wait approx 10 mins.

So with 4 hours of making the phone call, I have seen my GP and had all the tests I need done and a sparkling brand new hospital. You will not get better free health care anywhere in the world.

Well you don't live in my area!.

If I phone my GP at 8:45, I won't be able to see my GP for at least 3 days, and even them they have never managed to diagnosis my illnesses at the 1st attempt.

I took myself to A&E on saturday afternoon (broken collarbone), and spend 8 hours waiting to be xrayed (there were only 3 people waiting including me!, no staff, no nothing. Didn't even fix it up right - my GF at the time had broken her's in Cuba and she was shocked how the treatment in the UK was so poor for the same injury.

No physiso, and no chance of understanding what the Dr was telling me.

Oh and this in one of the worst hosiptals for MRSA! :(

I hate the health service in the UK, no dentists anymore, no service, just a massive tax grabbing hole that burns money

Make it A&E only - I took control of my life to be healthy and always accepted that nature will kill me if it seems fit.

Oh Cuba has the best free health care in the world :lol:

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I'm not sure which countries pay less tax, but have better services.

There are many, I've experienced some!

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Just hope you do not get a chronic illness. I bet your money would not go far towards your insurance policy.

Maybe a simple solution would be to get rid of most of the managers, most of the meetings and all the pointless paperwork. If it was not for the crappy compo culture we could do away with most of the health and safety shit which must cost millions. (I got a safety sheet on water the other day. Dangerous by inhalation!) The cost of agenda for change (waste of time) must be obscene! There are whole departments that could be shrunk to half the size.

However, even though it is pants it should be fixed not chucked away. The idea is a good one.

how do you know what money i have?

and i explained an insurance policy for all, no matter what there income.ie spend the money on the nhs instead on a insurance policy for all the populance, so no-one is being left out.

This will also stop the serious problem of people coming here to abuse an open system for free healthcare.

and overnight you will see all the waste and theft and corruption of the nhs vanish

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"You will not get better free health care anywhere in the world."

But it's not free as we are paying NI and Taxes for it and MP's are all getting rich by tweaking the figures and insider deals.

Our social systems are breaking down and it's not becuse of the people but our MP's and all the dirty deals.

Did you know that in one hospitial sergical gloves cost 40p a pair and in another the very same gloves come in at a whopping £1.40 and yet we are not allowed to question this.

The country is ran by the Mafia and the sooner people see this the better.

Do you want the American system?

We pay $250 a month just for the insurance. Everytime we see the Dr (at the office) it's a $15-20 co-pay. Rx have either a $5 or $40 co-pay and if they are not covered then they are not covered, and we pay whatever the price is. Both my husband and I had minor surgerylast year. Our part of the hospital bill was over 2K for mine, and 1K for my huband. This does not count the dr, lab, pathologists etc. And yes, I was charged $10 for a Tylenol. Heaven forbid ether of us got really sick. There is a shortage of OB-GYNs. I have waited 6 months for a pap. Need I go on?

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So much bad press about the NHS. But thisis my experience of it this week. At night I have strange chest pains....with 4 hours of making the phone call, I have seen my GP and had all the tests I need done and a sparkling brand new hospital. You will not get better free health care anywhere in the world.

El_Pirata you were a priority case because unexplained chest pains meant you could have dropped dead at any time (i.e. heart attack). Other people with less time critical symptoms/problems have to wait in line behind people like you (for good reason).

I’m starting my first job in Germany next week (I’ve found a good programming job), so if you wait a month I’ll post a cost/benefit comparison of the German health/tax system. :D

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