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Sorry that this aint related to anything to do with houses but "Mr Miracle Economy Brown", the robbin B85T8RD, modern day Highway Man has put my car tax up £15.00!!! I'm now payin' £105.00 for 6 months on a soddin' Vauxhall Vectra! In the 17 years I have been driving I have never known it to go up so much! :angry:

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Sorry that this aint related to anything to do with houses but "Mr Miracle Economy Brown", the robbin B85T8RD, modern day Highway Man has put my car tax up £15.00!!! I'm now payin' £105.00 for 6 months on a soddin' Vauxhall Vectra! In the 17 years I have been driving I have never known it to go up so much! :angry:

I suspect it will yet get worse. You see, the UK is no longer self-sufficient in energy, for the first time in many decades. A particular problem is that our oil fields have sharply declined. From this year we will be a net oil importer in a world market that is ever more competitive. This is an extremely disturbing development, given that we could barely balance our trade with the oil fields in full health. Now we have a trade balance sliding deeper and deeper into the red on top of an immensely over-indebted economy. This is not good. My guess is the governments from now on will do more and more to discourage car use and ownership, and push those who still drive into smaller cars.

Gnash your teeth if you like, but the fundamentals are sliding against you now.

Cars were allowed a great indulgence due to Britain being an oil exporter. Now we are just another ordinary oil importer and we don't even have Germany's industrial strength to compensate. We've b*gger all actually, that is tangible. The situation is not good, but it will take quite a few years for the true situation to manifest itself.

If I were you I would develop an interest in classic cars. These do not attract tax. Although they have a reputation for being lacking in modern safety features, I wouldn't be too taken by that. A Mark III Ford Cortina is still better than a modern hatchback, and better looking. Why not get a sports car, like a Spitfire? have a bit of fun.

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I can't see why people get so irate about road tax, it's an obvious tax extracted painfully in one jolt, it's the insidious stuff you have to worry about, £15 is about the same tax on 24 litres of fuel at current prices, do you use more than half a litre of fuel per week? Well, then. <_<

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Q - Whats the cheapest convertible to insure.

A - Triumph Herald

They're quite nippy too.

Pre 1973 = zero car tax, not bad fuel economy, spares availability still good, insurance dirt cheap.

If you want safety try a series Land Rover - the other vehicle is your impact zone. Again pre 1973=zero tax, cheap insurance, up to ten seats (LWB), you can stick more modern efficient diesel oil burners in them. Spares availability no problems.

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I suspect it will yet get worse. You see, the UK is no longer self-sufficient in energy, for the first time in many decades. A particular problem is that our oil fields have sharply declined. From this year we will be a net oil importer in a world market that is ever more competitive.

Very true, a lot of tax has been collected further up the chain from royalties on North Sea production (up to 66% marginal rates), corporation and windfall taxes on the oil companies themselves. The duty and VAT you pay at the pump was just the final bite of the cherry.

When it comes to importing rather than exporting energy first it goes from a net credit on the trade balance straight to a net debit and government doesn't get any of it's lovely royalties aside from a bit of corporation tax, so more tax will have to fall on the consumption (the driver). Within a decade we will have a national road charging scheme at >£1 per mile, fuel duty will remain as it's so easy to collect and so hard to avoid and the only people on the roads will be rich men and illegal unregistered cars.

As we've seen with Ken in London, he quite happily collects his little levy and those on their way to the City don't have any of the riff-raff in their way, socialists and fatcats of the world unite.

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Just insured my first car, f' it's expensive. Well, that's not entirely true, I've had a Spitfire for 3 years clocking up no claims.

1966 Spitfire:

Tax £0

Insurance: £150 inc. recovery & legal cover (I don't get no claims on this)

2000 Ford Fiesta

Tax £110

Insurance: £450 inc recovery & legal cover (inc. 2 years no claims)

F'!

in the end I found my Spit wasn't reliable enough for where I live & I'm not happy leaving it lying around when I go to, for example night classes.

Edited by Guy_Montag

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if per mile pricing ever rears it's head, then inflation will increase hugely, right away.

i mean i cant not drive to work, its absolutely essential.I have to carry tools and ladders and materials to customers houses, and so do a couple million people just like me.

expect to see they extra costs on your next bill

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if per mile pricing ever rears it's head, then inflation will increase hugely, right away.

i mean i cant not drive to work, its absolutely essential.

Work? We have hidden unemployment that is higher than any time in history, even the dark days of the 70/80's, we just call it other things; a rose by any other name... This government doesn't consider work to be 'essential'.

Of course, those (un)fortunate enough to have a job will pay dearly, we already do, our tax take as a percentage of GDP is now higher than when Healey "made the pips squeak", of course in return we have a wonderful health, schooling and criminal justice system and rising standards of living with marvellous prospects for our young people, now anyone can drop themselves into £25k of debt and get a mickey mouse degree :rolleyes:

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"If you want safety try a series Land Rover - the other vehicle is your impact zone. Again pre 1973=zero tax, cheap insurance, up to ten seats (LWB), you can stick more modern efficient diesel oil burners in them. Spares availability no problems."

They aren't all pre 1973 By Tor. Mine is 1982 LWB. So, no, I don't get away with the road tax - Breaks my heart!

Saying that they are very 'bolt on bolt off', and spares are cheap.

But then again 2 ton and no power steering tends to have it's draw backs :P

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