Only Fools And Horses

[HPCheese]

Watching OF&H over the weekend and was wondering how much their flat would be worth in today's market.

It's got a massive lounge, seperate kitchen, 2 double bedrooms, excellent transpport links and stunning views across London. Today of course it would have laminate flooring and Ikea furniture instead of shag carpet and flowered wallpaper. Ideal for first time buyers or investors I'd say. Obviously it's in Peckham.

Any estate agents want to hazard a guess at how much it would go for in today's market? Could Del Boy sell-up and use the money to buy a nice villa in the South of Spain?

[BillyShears]

Watching OF&H over the weekend and was wondering how much their flat would be worth in today's market.

It's got a massive lounge, seperate kitchen, 2 double bedrooms, excellent transpport links and stunning views across London. Today of course it would have laminate flooring and Ikea furniture instead of shag carpet and flowered wallpaper. Ideal for first time buyers or investors I'd say. Obviously it's in Peckham.

Any estate agents want to hazard a guess at how much it would go for in today's market? Could Del Boy sell-up and use the money to buy a nice villa in the South of Spain?

They wouldn't sell it. They'd rent it out as an HMO. The Liver Birds would take one room, the complete cast of Man about the House would move into another room, and Nurse Gladys would finally give in and move in with Arkwright as how else is she ever going to get on the ladder?

Billy Shears

Edited April 24, 2006 by BillyShears

[Guest Cletus VanDamme]

I'm not an EA, but a quick search brings up these"

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?ag...=prop&pid=72895

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?ag...prop&pid=487043

So probably around 150-160K

For around 5 times average london salary delboy-style ex-local authority living in Peckham can be yours.

[George]

hahah this place is comedy. gotta laugh or go nuts hahaa

[BuyingBear]

They would indeed be "millionaires", notionally anyway.

[HPCheese]

I'm not an EA, but a quick search brings up these"

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?ag...=prop&pid=72895

http://www.findaproperty.com/agent.aspx?ag...prop&pid=487043

So probably around 150-160K

For around 5 times average london salary delboy-style ex-local authority living in Peckham can be yours.

Excellent. The lounge was particularly large though and could probably be partitioned to add another bedroom.

People are actually taking-out £160K+ mortgages to live like Delboy and Rodney as we speak. What a difference 5 years makes!

Edited April 24, 2006 by HPCheese

[LivingTheDream-JustLikeLeedsUtd]

Surely it was a three bed? Or did Rodders sleep in the same room as Uncle Albert?

[HPCheese]

Surely it was a three bed? Or did Rodders sleep in the same room as Uncle Albert?

Good point. We can add another 20K-30K to the asking price.

Luvly-Jubbly!

[devslim]

He had a lock up garage as well. Thats another 30K.

[AteMoose]

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/viewdetails-599...pa_n=4&tr_t=buy

[LivingTheDream-JustLikeLeedsUtd]

They also had the only known source of Peckham Spring Water, and you can't put a value on that.

[woody]

OMG you guys have got nothing better to do on a busy Monday than search for properties in Peckham?

You must all be bankers?

[underpressuretobuy]

People are actually taking-out £160K+ mortgages to live like Delboy and Rodney as we speak. What a difference 5 years makes!

Rightmove - Flat 1

According to this one it will cost you £175,000 to live the up and coming professional lifestyle enjoyed by Del Boy.

That's 3.5 x £50,000 a year salary and according to the "property experts" moving higher in price, further out of reach and becoming more exclusive all the time.

Life is just daft these days.

Edit - Moosetea beat me to it!

Edited April 24, 2006 by underpressuretobuy

[Seamaster]

Who'd have thought such irredeemable slums could be gentrified in this way? It must have improved the quality of life for residents in such areas beyond all recognition, as this new wave of affluence washes away the grime, the depression and the decay that used to blight their existences.

You see, there is good news around if you look for it!

[HPCheese]

Who'd have thought such irredeemable slums could be gentrified in this way? It must have improved the quality of life for residents in such areas beyond all recognition, as this new wave of affluence washes away the grime, the depression and the decay that used to blight their existences.

You see, there is good news around if you look for it!

How does decreasing affordability reduce decay exactly? And how do massive mortgage payments and decreasing prospects of moving up the ladder alleviate depression?

Maybe you think the laminate flooring makes it all worth it?

This this what £175K gets you in todays market.

Look how the high house prices are washing away the grime - not.

What a plonker!

Edited April 24, 2006 by HPCheese

[Fancypants]

Who'd have thought such irredeemable slums could be gentrified in this way? It must have improved the quality of life for residents in such areas beyond all recognition, as this new wave of affluence washes away the grime, the depression and the decay that used to blight their existences.

You see, there is good news around if you look for it!

I trust that you haven't actually been to Peckham...

[shermanator]

He had a lock up garage as well. Thats another 30K.

And it had a balcony with river views.

EA : Peckham is an up and coming area with trendy bars and restaurants and has a real community spirit. Prices will rise 20% this year as local supply struggles to keep pace with demand.

[BuyingBear]

Who'd have thought such irredeemable slums could be gentrified in this way? It must have improved the quality of life for residents in such areas beyond all recognition

They're still slums of course, it's only improved the lifes of former residents in so much as being able to sell up for £175k and scarper... somewhere else, like another £175k slum.

[Its time to buy]

From Yuppy love

Del

We'll get to the top, Rodney,

no fear. This time next year

we will be millionaires!

(Reading one of

the letters)

Aha! Things are moving

already. This is from the

council. They've received my

application to buy this flat

and they're giving it

consideration.

Rodney

This flat? Why?

Del

Well, we've been living in it

since 1962. You were born in

it. He was banned from it. I

mean, we're all living in it,

you know the whole family.

There's Mum and Grandad and,

you know, everyone. This

place holds many warm

memories for me.

Rodney

But why do we need to buy it?

Del

So we can sell it!

Rodney

Sell it? What for?

Albert

A bloody good profit, with

any luck!

Del

Exactly. You see, Rodney,

Peckham here is becoming a

trendy area. I mean, it's

full of wine bars and

bistros, you know. Property

prices are booming. So if we

can flog this place to some

chinless wonder at a vastly

inflated price, well, that

means that we can get a nice

little drum out in the

suburbs.

Rodney

Del, council properties were

built so the poorer classes

would have somewhere to live!

If they start selling them to

hooray Henrys where they are

they gonna go?

Del

Esher, Orpington - somewhere

like that.

Rodney

But they can't afford to buy

houses!

Albert

They can when they've sold

their flats!

Del

Yeah, yeah, 'course they can.

It's money for old rope.

(Rubbing hands

together)

Lovely Jubbly!

Rodney

It is immoral!

Del

(Reading letter)

Oh shut up, you tart!

Rodney

Alright, think of it from our

business point of view, eh?

I mean this flat is in a

wonderful position. It's 15

minutes from the West End,

it's 15 minutes from the

motorway.

Albert

And 15 minutes from the ground.

Del

You're right, Rodders. I

ever thought of that!

(Writing in

filofax)

That's a very good selling

point. I'm gonna make a note

of that. That could put a

few grand on, Albert. Yeah,

don't worry. We'll make a

nice little bit of bunce out

of this old drum.

Rodney

You have got no right to sell

this place over my head!

Del

You listen to me. I have

lived here for 27 years, that

gives me the right to decide

its future!

Rodney

And I was born here! That

gives me more right than

anyone.

Albert

You might have been born

here, but Del's the one who

pays the rent arrears.

Del

Yeah, that's right, and you

just take how much I've paid

in rent over the years. I

must have bought this place

at least four or five times

over and yet not one breeze

block belongs to me - to us.

But all that is gonna

change!

Rodney

You're just a snob, that's

all you are!

Del

I am not a snob, Rodney; I am

a realist. I've grafted all

my life to try and get us a

nice little place out there

in the fresh air and look at

us - we're still here in this

council-built Lego set! I used

to watch you when you was a

kid, you know, breathing in

all the fumes from the motor-

way - you must have more lead

inside you than a butcher's

pencil, and I used to think,

what is it doing to his

little brain?

FURTHER ON

Del

It was a long time ago

Rodders, I don't remember...

Alright, so you grafted as

well. He fought and died for

his country... many times!

Which gives us the right to

make a bit of profit out of

this dump.

Rodney

I wanna stay in this flat!

Albert

You can buy it off Del then!

Del

This is typical of you,

Rodney, you don't move with

the times. The world is

changing out there; it's a

financial jungle. It's a

question of he who dares,

wins, he who hesitates...

don't!

Albert

It's called the survival of

the fittest.

Rodney

No, Unc, it's called pull the

ladder up, Jack, and sod the

rest!

Albert

There are times when you have

to think of yourself, Rodney!

I remember once when I was in

the South Pacific.

Rodney

Don't you dare give me

another nautical nightmare!

I've already been through the

Adriatic with him once this

afternoon. It's like the

adventures of a Dover sole!

Del

Alright, Rodney. Look, we

won't move far away. There

are some lovely areas round

here. We'll buy a house that

befits people like us.

Rodney

What do you mean, people like

us?

Del

Well, yuppies.

Rodney

I am not a yuppy!

Del

No. But given time and a bit

of help from me...

Del pats Rodney reassuringly on the shoulder.

EXT. QUIET SUBURBAN, TREE-LINED AVENUE. DAY. FILM.

The road contains magnificent houses with in and out

drives.

The camera focusses on a street sign that reads "The

King's Avenue".

We pan up to show at least one of the houses before the

three wheeled van comes into view driving towards us

Del driving in a trendy green coat, and Rodney in the

passenger seat wearing one of the common or garden

beige trench coats as seen in the flat.

The van pulls to a halt.

Rodney

What you stopped for?

Del

(Gesturing to

houses)

Cop a load of this, bruv. I

mean, this is what you call

living. You know, I bet

these gaffs have guest

suites, swimming pools,

jacuzzis! What have we got?

A put-you-up, a damp patch

and a jakarsey!

Rodney

What do you reckon this sort

of place goes for then?

Del

Oh, I dunno, three-quarters

of a million, maybe more.

We'll be in one of those one

day, bruv.

Rodney

Oh yeah! What you got lined

up, a decorating job?

Del

No, listen to me. We just

need an half-decent break

and we'll be millionaires!

Rodney

Del, I wouldn’t live in this

road if you paid me! It's

poncy. It's... it's immoral!

Del

Immoral? What you going on

about, you dipstick?

Rodney

You've got something like 18

acres of land here with

about 12 families living on

it.

Del

These sort of people need a

bit of space round 'em,

don't they? I mean, down

here you've got stockbrokers,

private doctors... Porsches!

This is the crème de la

menthe of our community!

Rodney

You could house thousands of

people on this land!

Del

What, more tower blocks? If

you had your way, the only

growth industry would be

lift-repairing! Every time

you go to these evening

classes you end up talking

like Ken Livingstone or

Arthur Scargill. You wanna

watch it or you'll end up

with one of those funny

hair cuts.

Rodney

Are you gonna drive me to

the adult education centre

or are we gonna stand here

admiring the privets all

night?

Rodney climbs back into the van and slams the door.

Del

Make sure the door's closed,

Rodney.

Del climbs into the driver's seat.

Del

(Cont'd)

Look, Rodney. I wanna be

successful, but not for the

money. I want the power and

the influence that success

brings.

Rodney

And what will you do with

all this power and influ-

ence?

Del

Spend it!

EXT. ADULT EDUCATION CENTRE/URBAN ROAD

I think the script writters knew what was comming!!!!

http://www.ofah.net/Files/Yuppy%20Love.txt

Edited April 24, 2006 by notanewmember

[Shamus]

In 1999 when we were buying our first home we visited some cheap new builds in Peckham. Bit of a shock coming up from Wimbledon. The apartments were around £100k back then for 2-beds. They were all very nicely done with nice size rooms and good fittings. When I looked out of a window upstairs across the street I spotted that every house had a metal outer door and the windows on most of them were secured with metal shutters. Wondered how long it would be before the shutters and metal outer doors went up on the new builds!!

Hasten to add we decided against proceeding any further

[BuyingBear]

In 1999 when we were buying our first home we visited some cheap new builds in Peckham. Bit of a shock coming up from Wimbledon. The apartments were around £100k back then for 2-beds. They were all very nicely done with nice size rooms and good fittings. When I looked out of a window upstairs across the street I spotted that every house had a metal outer door and the windows on most of them were secured with metal shutters. Wondered how long it would be before the shutters and metal outer doors went up on the new builds!!

Hasten to add we decided against proceeding any further

Shame... they're probably asking £250k for them now

[teddyboy]

Advert on CenturyFM for Manchester has got some tower with prices starting from ONLY (yes they did say only!) £185,000.

Youd be a complete tit if you paid that for a 2 BED apartment!!!!

TB

[right_freds_dead]

if you continue on to the series of the late 80s theres an episode where they have come to the end of the financial line. and to top it all del announces he has just completed on the flat.

check the web resources. its out there circa 1989-1990. probably the 3rd series.

worth digging out. if you can learn from that then theres no helping you.

[right_freds_dead]

found it:

http://www.ofah.net/immediacy-196

by end of series 7 the property game has all gone wrong.....

Del

Yeah, you're right, Rodders.

I could never hide anything

from you could I? D'you

remember a couple of years

ago I applied to the council

to buy this flat? Then they

ummmed and aahed about it.

Rodney

I thought they laughed.

Del

That was the first time. I

applied again after that.

What with the local

elections and strike,

everything got held up.

Well, I sort of forgot

about it. A couple of days

ago, right out the blue,

the papers finally come

through. I own this flat.

Rodney

Bloody 'ell!

Del

I've worked it out - the

mortgage repayments are two

and a half times the rent -

and I can't afford that!

Rodney

And that's what's upset

Raquel?

Del

No, I ain't told her about

it yet. Guess what else

comes with the flat? D'you

remember Grandad's old

allotment?

Rodney

Not that?

Del

Yeah? No-one's been even

near it for yonks. In the

last thirty years more

people have walked on the

moon than that allotment.

What the hell do I want

with an allotment? It's

just my luck, innit? I feel

like a mosquito who's

caught malaria.

Albert now enters, holding bowl and spoon. His beard is

covered with the mushy Weetabix.

Albert

Little sod threw his break-

fast all over me!

Del

Tch, this has spoiled the

moment, sweetheart. I was

gonna tell you all about

it tonight.

Raquel

Tell me what?

Del

It'll be much better tonight.

Raquel

Now!

Del

Well... this flat.

Raquel

What about this flat?

Del

I've bought it! - it's ours!

Raquel moves across to Rodney. Rodney nods.

Raquel

Oh, good!

Del

I'll get a couple of

bottles of champagne, shall

I?

Raquel

Not for me, Derek, I feel

light-headed already.

Del

we own our own home now.

This is all ours! We can do

what we want with it.

Raquel

Like what? Add a conserv-

atory or a nice patio?

Del

At least we got a roof over

our heads.

Raquel

And fourteen other families!

I'm gonna change the baby's

nappy.

Raquel exits to bedrooms area.

oh oh. see the warning signs. history within a script/

[Guest Bart of Darkness]

OMG you guys have got nothing better to do on a busy Monday than search for properties in Peckham?

You must all be bankers?

Except for TTRTR, he's a merchant banker.