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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...xportaltop.html

GPs 'earn a quarter of million pounds a year'

(Filed: 18/04/2006)

Some GPs are earning as much as £250,000 a year, it has been reported, with wages having increased by up to 25 per cent since new contracts were introduced two years ago.
Niall Dickson, chief executive of health charity the King's Fund, said: "For the average person going to their GP the very idea that their doctor might be earning between £200,000 and £250,000 would be really astonishing.
"And by international standards that would put them way up at the top of the league even among developed countries."

Lovely jubbly for some it seems.

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"Figures from an annual survey by the Association of Independent Specialist Medical Accountants suggest the average earnings of a GP now exceed £100,000.

But Dr Hamish Meldrum, chairman of the British Medical Aassociation's General Practitioners' Committee, said "good rewards" were needed to recruit doctors.

He said the average earnings were "a bit below" £100,000. He said those at the top end were probably running complex and high-powered businesses."

Spin, Spin, Spin.

How about this:

"The first barrister to be paid more than £1m in one year from legal aid was named yesterday in a government report which showed that the top 12 lawyers in the field earn more than £600,000 from taxpayers."

£1m legal aid barrister

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Now be honest, does anyone on here earn £250,000 a year?

Does anyone on here think they should be valued at £250,000 a year?

Can anyone answering yes to any of these questions please tell the rest of us what you do.

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Now be honest, does anyone on here earn £250,000 a year?

Does anyone on here think they should be valued at £250,000 a year?

Can anyone answering yes to any of these questions please tell the rest of us what you do.

When compared to an equally hard working nurse's salary anything over 100k seems OTT.

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But doctors are important people. It's only fair that they should earn 4-10x as much as the average Joe who pays their wages.

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When compared to an equally hard working nurse's salary anything over 100k seems OTT.

I think we give some nurses too much work ethic credence in relation to the rest of us. My Sis in law is a nurse (agency) and earned loads for not many hours per week.

On the flip side, I have worked 80-90 weeks in the past and I never heard of anyone championing my cause.

But yes 100K is too steep.

But doctors are important people. It's only fair that they should earn 4-10x as much as the average Joe who pays their wages.

I like your sarcasm.

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Do dentists all have to do home visits, weekends, out of hours?

They do have to stare into people's mouths all day... and NHS dentistry must be soul-destroying if they're trapped into it, since they can't use even 10% of the fancy tools that dentistry has created in the last few decades: just fill 'em or pull 'em.

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Can anyone explain why there are dentist shortages but not doctor shortages?

Yes, just as the gap between rich and poor is widening, so is the gap between clever and stupid. Doctors are cleverer than dentists, as doctors have to know about other parts of the body whereas a dentist only has to remember teeth related information. The previously moderate to low-end-smart people used to become dentists, (or if their brainpower was sub-dentist then ophthalmic opticians) these people are now smarter and thus become doctors. Just as on the other end of the scale there is a shortage of PE teachers as their intelligence has diminished, this explains the rapid expanse in the numbers of estate/letting agents.

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Disgusting waste iof Tax payers money. Lets face it the same people would be working as GP's even if paid 'only' £50,000 - it's not as if any less than £100,000 will cause them to get a job elsewhere (As what.)

Radio 5 has had idiots on saying rather GP's than Football players. Ignoring the fact that footballers are paid from the private sector and GP's from our pockets. Also very few people are good enough to play championship football compared with the amount that 'make' it as a GP. I'm sure the government could import all our doctors from poland and pay them £20,000 a year - it really is one rule for one and a different one for another.

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Yes, just as the gap between rich and poor is widening, so is the gap between clever and stupid. Doctors are cleverer than dentists, as doctors have to know about other parts of the body whereas a dentist only has to remember teeth related information. The previously moderate to low-end-smart people used to become dentists, (or if their brainpower was sub-dentist then ophthalmic opticians) these people are now smarter and thus become doctors. Just as on the other end of the scale there is a shortage of PE teachers as their intelligence has diminished, this explains the rapid expanse in the numbers of estate/letting agents.

Vets? They have to know a lot about a huge variety of animals. They also charge a lot--doggy pills cost more than people pills!

EAs now have to have advanced acting skills--how not to look bored when you have nothing to do. How to fake a phone conversation when there is no one on the other line. How to sleep behind the desk and not have anyone notice.

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Guest horace

GP`s salaries seem ok to me.

What about the salaries of `Super stars`like Rooney, Beckham, Sven, el al? I would suggest this puts the arguement for and against into perpective.

h ;)

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GP`s salaries seem ok to me.

What about the salaries of `Super stars`like Rooney, Beckham, Sven, el al? I would suggest this puts the arguement for and against into perpective.

h ;)

You haven't read the thread have you... :rolleyes:

Please read "since the beginning"'s post.

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GP`s salaries seem ok to me.

What about the salaries of `Super stars`like Rooney, Beckham, Sven, el al? I would suggest this puts the arguement for and against into perpective.

h ;)

Yup, but there are not that many superstars compared with the tens of thousands of GPs who are paid by our taxes.. I think the government has admitted overpaying GPs due to double payments for jobs they were already doing.

25% pay rise since 2004 seems a little excessive also given that real inflation has been running at around 8% or so.

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I'm a GP.

This report is pure spin, designed to evoke just the sort of reaction shown on here, and divert attention away from the real issues, such as incompetent management of health service budgets, and short termism in the extreme.

I can assure you that very few(maybe less than 10) GPs in this country earn anywhere near £250000.

The important point to bear in mind when looking at this report is that the figures quoted are for total income. In other words, there will be money from NHS work, but also they will be getting income from, for instance filling in insurance reports, doing HGV/Taxi driver medicals, teaching, providing occupational health for the local factory, working as a Police Surgeon etc. The headline figure(as is often the case) does not tell the whole story.

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we all know for our own wages how far off these 'average wages' can be.

for instance its supposed to be £28k.

in my group of people i know, thats utter nonsence.

mostly here in nw is 18k-22k max for average, with a good deal at 16k.

id guesstimate real gps to be getting around the 80k mark on average.

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According to the report this morning, there were 10 GPs in the North East getting over £250k.

The opening caller (farther of a doctor) complained that 100k (the average) was not enough for a doctor since his daughter couldn't afford to buy a house with it. Apparently she deserves a house more than the rest of us. :huh:

When the presenter pointed out that that was the state of the economy & everyone else was in the same boat, he didn't seem to understand.

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According to the report this morning, there were 10 GPs in the North East getting over £250k.

The opening caller (farther of a doctor) complained that 100k (the average) was not enough for a doctor since his daughter couldn't afford to buy a house with it. Apparently she deserves a house more than the rest of us. :huh:

When the presenter pointed out that that was the state of the economy & everyone else was in the same boat, he didn't seem to understand.

?100k and can't afford a house? what does she want - Buckingham palace?

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I don't mind Doctors getting 250k a year. But i would expect their output to rise in accordance with their wage increase!

Much like most of the the public sector in this country actual out put is at an all time low, and correct me if i'm wrong but don't we have less output per worker than those 'lazy French'?

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Ratio of house price to income of the average citizen: 11 times incomes

Ratio of house price to income of some GPs : 1

What kind of wealth sharing is this?

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