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White Voters Are Deserting Us For Bnp, Says Blair Ally

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White voters are deserting us for BNP, says Blair ally

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml...4/16/nbnp16.xml

By Melissa Kite, Deputy Political Editor

(Filed: 16/04/2006)

White working-class families feel so neglected by the Government and angered by immigration that they are deserting Labour and flocking to the British National Party, a minister admitted yesterday.

In a sensational claim, Margaret Hodge, one of Tony Blair's closest allies, said that eight out of 10 white people in her east London constituency of Barking are threatening to vote for the far-Right party in next month's local elections. Once traditional Labour supporters are angry at a lack of affordable housing - and blame immigration, and Labour, for the changes.

Margaret Hodge: white families are angry

"They can't get a home for their children, they see black and ethnic minority communities moving in and they are angry," said Mrs Hodge, the employment minister. "When I knock on doors I say to people, 'are you tempted to vote BNP?' and many, many, many - eight out of 10 of the white families - say 'yes'. That's something we have never seen before, in all my years. Even when people voted BNP, they used to be ashamed to vote BNP. Now they are not." Mrs Hodge said the pace of ethnic change in her area had frightened people. "What has happened in Barking and Dagenham is the most rapid transformation of a community we have ever witnessed.

"Nowhere else has changed so fast. When I arrived in 1994, it was a predominantly white, working class area. Now, go through the middle of Barking and you could be in Camden or Brixton. That is the key thing that has created the environment the BNP has sought to exploit." Mrs Hodge claimed the anger is not down to racism. "It is a fear of change. It is gobsmacking change."

She also complained about a "lack of leadership" from her party on race, and said the "political class", including Labour, was frightened of the issue. "The Labour Party hasn't talked to these people. This is a traditional Labour area but they are not used to engaging with us because all we do is put leaflets through doors. Part of the reason they switch to the BNP is they feel no one else is listening to them."

Labour is so worried about the rise of extremist parties that 50 of its MPs have joined a campaigning group to counter the threat. Privately, ministers fear that BNP candidates could poll up to 25 per cent of the vote in some areas. The BNP is mounting an aggressive challenge in Barking and Dagenham and, it is feared, will win seats in May's elections.

The BNP is mounting an aggressive challenge in Barking and Dagenham and may win seats

Mrs Hodge said white families are angry at the lack of housing since immigrants began arriving in the area, and because asylum seekers have been housed there by inner London councils. "There was nowhere for the local people to move to and we did not reinvest in social housing, nor did the Tories. Neither of us have done enough of that.

"It isn't that we have done nothing. But where we haven't done enough is affordable housing for families and the quality of life for families. Were we to blame for the change? No, it happened on the back of Right To Buy. But we could have built more affordable housing. We must do that. It isn't happening yet."

She also blamed inadequate action to clean up estates. "What we haven't significantly addressed are these issues that are the quality of life on council estates. It is the poorest whites who feel the greatest anger because there is no way out for them."

Mrs Hodge, who has been spending two days a week on the doorsteps since the BNP began targeting her constituents, urged her party to re-engage. "The Labour Party hasn't talked to these people. This is a traditional Labour area but they are not used to engaging with us because all we do is put leaflets through doors. Part of the reason they switch to the BNP is they feel no one else is listening to them."

While she rejected talk of the far-Right being on the verge of a major breakthrough, Mrs Hodge conceded that they were likely to win seats from Labour on May 4. "I think we could lose one or two [seats].

"It's an incredibly serious issue. It's the big issue. We need very much stronger leadership nationally to promote the benefits of the multi-cultural society. We have got to do it, the Labour leadership have got to do it. All the political parties have got to do it.

"I think if we are not careful and we don't respond and learn the lessons from Barking and Dagenham we could see that same fear of change trickle out elsewhere."

Mrs Hodge's assessment of white, working-class anger was backed up by Phil Woolas, the local government minister and MP for Oldham East, where there were race riots five years ago. Dozens of BNP candidates stood in previous elections there, but this time there are only two.

Mr Woolas said: "We are winning the fight up here by acknowledging that anti-white racism exists, by being fair and being seen to be fair on housing and schooling. We took the white, working-class vote back."

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"It's an incredibly serious issue. It's the big issue. We need very much stronger leadership nationally to promote the benefits of the multi-cultural society. We have got to do it, the Labour leadership have got to do it. All the political parties have got to do it.

And this is exactly the reason why

they assume we want multi-culturalism when we dont its being foistered upon us.

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"It's an incredibly serious issue. It's the big issue. We need very much stronger leadership nationally to promote the benefits of the multi-cultural society. We have got to do it, the Labour leadership have got to do it. All the political parties have got to do it.

And this is exactly the reason why

they assume we want multi-culturalism when we dont its being foistered upon us.

This article is remarkable to me... just this morning I was trying to justify to my folks why I was dumping my usual tory vote and joining the BNP...

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Also a Leader....

Labour is to blame for the drift to the BNP

(Filed: 16/04/2006)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jh...4/16/dl1601.xml

The growth of support for the British National Party is extremely disturbing. Margaret Hodge, the Minister of State for Employment, told this newspaper that eight out of ten white voters she canvassed in Barking and Dagenham admitted that they were considering voting for the BNP in the May local elections. It is a trend that has been noticed in several other working-class areas of Britain - and for which New Labour must take responsibility.

Nick Griffin, the BNP's Cambridge-educated leader, is no longer seen surrounded by a phalanx of tattooed thugs: he makes sure he is photographed in the company of smiling, unthreatening women. Griffin carefully crafts his message so that it sounds reasonable rather than racist. He has learned from the techniques of mendacious and misleading presentation that New Labour so effectively pioneered.

The change in the packaging, however, is not what those who admit they may now vote for the BNP are responding to: rather, it is the party's policies on immigration. Those policies, including forced repatriation and the institutionalisation of prejudice, are repulsive and wrong. That any of the British electorate should consider voting for them is deeply depressing. It is, however, a reflection of the despair felt by many working class voters at the Government's failure to address the problems generated by what they perceive to be a policy not just of unrestricted immigration, but of favouritism towards immigrants.

New Labour has made a significant contribution to the growth in support for the BNP by its failure even to think seriously about the problems generated by large-scale immigration. Of the fact that Labour has encouraged mass immigration there can be no doubt. Since 1997, Labour has allowed an average 157,000 new migrants per year into Britain - almost triple the average annual number admitted in the decade prior to 1997. Labour has tried to keep that policy secret: it has concentrated instead on announcing its policy for reducing the number of asylum-seekers - who, in fact, form only 14 per cent of the annual total of new immigrants.

During the 2005 General Election campaign, Charles Clarke, the Home Secretary, insisted that "we want more immigration". He, like many other well-off people, may well want more immigration: it reduces the wages that need to be paid to house cleaners, nannies, painters and plumbers, and increases the choice of restaurant cuisines available. But many poorer voters, for whom immigration means lower wages, longer queues for social housing, and unwelcome changes to the familiar form of the local community, do not want more immigration.

In last year's election, Tony Blair boasted that he had presided over strict controls to reduce both legal and illegal immigration. This was blatantly false. Far from imposing strict controls, Labour has increased the number of work permits given to immigrants and their dependants by a factor of four since 1997. More than 1.2 million have arrived in Britain in the past eight years from outside the EU. Many communities have experienced a major transformation as a result.

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"The problem is that these people have not been consulted about the vast social experiment in which they have been forced to participate. Nor can they discuss their anger without being labelled "racist". Until the Government - and the opposition parties - confront the issues raised by immigration, directly and honestly, the poison of the BNP will continue to spread."

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A right wing backlash in the form of a large increase in the BNP vote wouldn't be a bad thing.....because it would IMO bring the the liberal elites running the mainstream parties to their senses.........

Even the Tories have never been right wing on crime and immigration.....even in the Thatcher years...

The Daily Mail attitude on these issues is espoused by the vast majority of the aged over 25 population but not reflected in anything the main parties do.....They need a warning shot across their bows.

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the bnp have my vote. if you look at the two leaders of the main parties its depressing. both are public school multicultralism tourists. real working class people know the score. thats why we should vote bnp to give the liberal nazis a good kicking. they have no respect for the feelings of the vast majority of hard working people. the pc brigade and the bbc deserve a dose of unemployment and poverty to learn what real people have had to suffer from in the last decade.

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One possible response to this is that if extremeist parties do well in gaining local support the mainstream political parties will develop tougher stances on the same issues (such as immigration with the BNP) in order to stop these parties gaining political ground or seats in the local elections. Whichever way you look at it there will be an effect when extreme parties gain support.

However due to the nature of the voting system it is difficult for such small parties to gain seats.

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The Daily Mail attitude on these issues is espoused by the vast majority of the aged over 25 population

I'm 26 and I ******ing despise the daily mail (I'm not even going to dignify them by capitalising their name), and so do the vast majority of my friends and family. So- got statistical proof?

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It's an incredibly serious issue. It's the big issue. We need very much stronger leadership nationally to promote the benefits of the multi-cultural society. We have got to do it, the Labour leadership have got to do it. All the political parties have got to do it.

You can coat dog shit in icing sugar and gift wrap it but that won't make it any nicer.

The arrogance of people like Mrs Hodge is incredible. 8 out of 10 white electors in her constituency tell her they are considering voting for a "far right" party and rather than reflecting on this and proposing a change in Nu labours policy she is basically saying these people need to get more pro immigration propaganda.

If all the mainstream parties follow her example then MORE people will vote for the BNP as there is no real alternative.

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I'm 26 and I ******ing despise the daily mail (I'm not even going to dignify them by capitalising their name), and so do the vast majority of my friends and family. So- got statistical proof?

I'm 29 and I ******ing despise the daily mail and so do the vast majority of my friends & family. :lol:

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I had a laugh hearing Hodge talking about how they need to do a better job explaining the benifits of multi-culturalism. Hard job IMHO as there are none and I have a sneaking suspiscion a lot of labour MPs agree as even they don't send their own kids to the schools in the multicultural areas they seem to adore so much!

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Hard job IMHO as there are none and I have a sneaking suspiscion a lot of labour MPs agree as even they don't send their own kids to the schools in the multicultural areas they seem to adore so much!

That's because of class difference. Most immigrants are working class. Mind you they don't have problem sending their children to foreign boarding schools with children from all parts of the world. On the same note they don't send their children to white working class areas whom they seem to represent. It is because of this reason that I will not send my children to working class schools to study with children of people like Pete95, brainclamp etc.

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it would be nice if white working class people had a choice where their kids went. unfortunately this would lead to aparthied schools. nulab upper middle class can dictate what working class people have to put up with. however they wouldnt put up with it themselves. hence the 1 in 4 wanting to vote bnp. the attempts to promote multiculturalism , especially on the bbc have backfired. the nulabs have lied and allowed mass immigration with no debate. the great unwasheed are unhappy and now the genie is out the bottle. how can the pc prats now persuade people not to vote how they want.

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