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http://www.iii.co.uk/news/?type=afxnews&ar...&action=article

TEHRAN (AFX) - Iran's president Mahmoud Ahmadinejad vowed he would not back down "one iota" over his country's nuclear programme, again
rejecting a UN Security Council demand for Tehran to freeze sensitive enrichment work.
"Be certain that the government which serves you will follow the wishes of the people with wisdom and strength, and will not back down one iota," the president said in a speech carried live on state television.
Ahmadinejad also cryptically promised "
very good nuclear news in the coming days
", but did not elaborate.
"Our enemies know they are unable to even slightly hurt our nation and they cannot create the tiniest obstacle on its glorious and progressive way," he also said in the speech, given in the northeastern city of Mashhad.
"They cannot stop our nation," he said. "They should know they cannot deprive our nation of its rights by political pressure."
"We know America's nature, and we are keeping enemy movements under surveillance. We are aware of their oppressive actions and goals
against the Muslim nations
," he added.

IN other words, back off and concede Iranian supremacy in the Middle East. Glass lakes anyone?

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Im sure once Bush has finished with Iran, the score will be Infidels 1 - Religion-of-peace 0

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"Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds."

Philip Oppenheimer, 1944/45 quoting the Hindu holy book, the name of which I've forgotten.

Anyone seen "the hills have eyes", urghhh, creepy...

It's just sabre rattling from a nieve govenment - they'll back down as soon as the heats on...

Hmmm. Not sure about that. This guy is a bit radio rentals.

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Yeah but is that glass lakes in the US or Iran??

I wonder what their big nuclear announcement is?

Political posturing or a basic nuke?

The Russians have been selling the Iranians all kinds of weapons for years so it should not come as any surprise if they already have a few missiles capable of striking targets anywhere in Europe. London for example? The North Koreans have already boasted they can take out Japan causing that country to end their pacifist stance.

It boils down to who strikes first. Count down to Armagedon does seem to be taking on a shape of reality these days.

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It's just sabre rattling from a nieve govenment - they'll back down as soon as the heats on...

Too late for that option now IMO - there's no way Bush will risk leaving Iranian nukes as ongoing situation for a naive Democrat adminstration to appease.

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Hmmm. Not sure about that. This guy is a bit radio rentals.

"Hmmm. Not sure about that. This guy is a bit radio rentals."

Is that their guy or our guy? ;)

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Too late for that option now IMO - there's no way Bush will risk leaving Iranian nukes as ongoing situation for a naive Democrat adminstration to appease.

Hilary looks like a shoe in on the Democrat side. She tends toward feministic policies and may not have a soft spot for nations where women are suppressed. Pity Arnie can't run for Republicans as he would have made a great neo-Churchillian figure in the upcoming wars: prepare to die.........

But seriously, you are right the US is not going to leave any loose cannons in the Middle East and Israel will do the job if the UN backs down again.

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Too late for that option now IMO - there's no way Bush will risk leaving Iranian nukes as ongoing situation for a naive Democrat adminstration to appease.

And so he shouldn't. I can't believe how soft the world has gone after Iraq.

Bush/Blair took us into Iraq because we were told the world would be safer without Saddam. He didn't have any weapons.

Iran on the other hand is proclaiming that they are trying to obtain WMD and that they might just use them.

Air strikes on Iran key sites are an absolute necessity IMO, it's obvious that the US government will be looking at these options and I hope they follow through with them and aren't scared off by what it might do to their beloved oil prices.

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This middle eastern campaign may turn into a Roman-style "pacification" war. You hit your enemy so hard that they are sent reeling and lose all will to resist for a few years. Much like Hitler's Blitzkrieg tactics: breaking the will to resist. It worked in Japan in 1945 quite well (and I suspect the carry trade may be the revenge for 1945!).

Blame Lawrence of Arabia for the mess. No, better still, Joshua for disobeying orders.

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America will attack Iran when the New York Jewish lobby tells it to!

Before this gets dismissed by the Pc brigade as a racist comment I'd like to say it's a mere observation...

Western European countries all support Israel without slavishly grovelling to it in the way the U.S. does.....

America is a very insular country and most people have little interest in foreign affairs ...This explains how the Jewish lobby there has managed to hijack the American government's Middle East policy these past 60 years..........Even Britain has been more even-handed in its Middle East dealings.

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I heard an interesting point on Today this morning, that Iran basically looks on the US (& British) soldiers in Iraq as hostages. :ph34r:

You need not worry. The Yanks and the UK are building quite a sizable runway in Afganistan (1700 metres), which should be finished in a couple of months and is right next door to Iran. In striking distance in fact.

What with bases in Irag and soon to be Afganistan, I think we've got it covered. B)

I saw a map of US bases recently, they have troops in every country with a contiguous border with Iran. Crikey, I'd feel threatened, even before they threaten to use nukes, (remind me, who can't be trusted with nukes again?).

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I heard an interesting point on Today this morning, that Iran basically looks on the US (& British) soldiers in Iraq as hostages. :ph34r:

Yes and no.

If the gloves ever came on the US could be an extremely frightening beast to contend with.

Their infantry might not be as highly trained as "our boys", but the kit they have, the planes, missiles, etc etc. together with the political will to this kit, would be frightening.

Fact is they understand the first goal of government - to protect its citizens.

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Look like it is time for me to mention the Robert Redford film 'Three Days Of The Condor' again. :huh:

...looks like it is time for everyone to wonder what the hell you are going on about! :P

erm, in amongst all this macho chest beating anyone admit to feeling a little bit sorry for the iranians, being the underdogs and all that.

who do "we" kick the sh1t out next? north korea? zimbabwe? central african republic?

nah - it's all about oil kiddies ;)

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who do "we" kick the sh1t out next? north korea? zimbabwe? central african republic?

nah - it's all about oil kiddies ;)

Well, if Zimbabwe was on the cards, great, Mugabe does indeed need a severe kicking. In fact, he needs to be dragged behind a truck for a few miles through one of the shanty towns he pulled down.

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If anyone here feels they do not have good, reliable knowledge of the position of the muslims, and/or what is about to happen then you could do worse than spending some of your time to read this.

It's written by a former ambassador and sums up fairly well how the Middle East feels towards the Anglosphere.

It is important to hear both sides.

.

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Well, if Zimbabwe was on the cards, great, Mugabe does indeed need a severe kicking. In fact, he needs to be dragged behind a truck for a few miles through one of the shanty towns he pulled down.

But the point is we don't, do we?

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Well, if Zimbabwe was on the cards, great, Mugabe does indeed need a severe kicking. In fact, he needs to be dragged behind a truck for a few miles through one of the shanty towns he pulled down.

oh agreed 100%

a nice slow death for mugabe would be a good thing. :)

trouble is another despot would come and take his place.

i read over the weekend that the average life expectancy in zimbabwe is now about 35 years. terrible :(

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Yes and no.

If the gloves ever came on the US could be an extremely frightening beast to contend with.

Their infantry might not be as highly trained as "our boys", but the kit they have, the planes, missiles, etc etc. together with the political will to this kit, would be frightening.

Fact is they understand the first goal of government - to protect its citizens.

I'm by no means a Francophile.........but France's approach to Iraq has proven to be the right one.....

When the chips are down France unlike a lot of smaller and neutral countries (who hide at the back) pulls its weight..eg Kosovo and the 1st Gulf War in 1990 when Iraq invaded Kuwait......or 1939 even by declaring war on Germany!

However before the invasion 3 years ago Chirac without pretending to have any moral objections to it said it would spell long term political and terrorist trouble for the countries involved which has proven to be the case.

Re-smaller and neutral countries hiding at the back....During the Cold War the likes of Switzerland, Sweden and Ireland whilst declaring their neutrality (and in the case of Ireland spending next to nothing on defence) benefitted from the NATO umbrella as much as the other other capitalist European countries and the US

without taking any political or diplomatic flak and general responsibility...

This applied in 1939 and the Cold War as much as it does now......

so the US for all its faults is at least forced to put its head above the parapet in a way small countries never have to....As in previous post...Its foreign policy which seems to revolve around its slavish support of Israel (population only 5 or 6 million!) doesn't help its cause whatsoever.....

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But the point is we don't, do we?

We don't what? I don't understand.

We blo0dy well should get in there, same with several other parts of Africa sadly. Most notably Sudan.

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If anyone here feels they do not have good, reliable knowledge of the position of the muslims, and/or what is about to happen then you could do worse than spending some of your time to read this.

It's written by an Al-Jazeerah editor and sums up fairly well how the Middle East feels towards the Anglosphere.

It is important to hear both sides.

.

Haven't read it in detail but it seems ironic for Al-Jazeerah to champion Milosevic and deny the genocide of Muslims. In fact it's whole credibility is undermined by trying to deny Hussein's gassing of the Kurds

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It is really all about power. The Moslem nations feel left out of world politics as none warrant super-power status. They tried and failed to take Europe by force in the medieval period and their intermittent "jihads" have not affected much other than to rile a few idealistic terrorists to blow themselves up together with a few people who happened to be standing around at the time. They must be extremely frustrated with the outcome of the 6 day war when Israel greased them all without much effort. They are motivated by a god who has commanded them to destroy the infidel and that those who die while in the act of murder are guaranteed a cushti time in the next live. Yet that god has never let a victory come within their grasp.

Oil is one of the issues as the West needs a steady flow of it to keep the economies going. However, there is plenty of the stuff in South America, Canada, Alaska, Russia so it must be more than just an oil issue.

Or, it may be some very ancient prophecies coming to pass before our eyes.

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