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They say the webcam goes live once the foundations begin.

A fellow investor returned from the site on Wednedsay and showed me my plot. Its just a patch of sand.

They showed me photos of the flooded marina, its got the most wonderful colour sea and its vast. Can wait to be walking round it one evening in 3 years time whilst perusing the many restaurants as the jostling yatchs gently caress thier moorings and the night sky is filled with the sounds of the bazzar and the frangrance of incense and spices. :rolleyes:

According to your usual logic, they'd be better off watching it off the DVD player

:lol::lol::lol:

P.S. How much longer have you left on the Adult literacy classes ? :)

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A patch of sand........

yes, but surrounded by what ?? :unsure:

Surrounded by other sand. Approx 150m distant there are many Fadesa built villas already up. Quite a lot of the lakes and irrigation now in place. There are piles of rock everywhere to shape THE THREE 18 HOLE GOLF COURSES:rolleyes:

Biglog I'll buy you a beer if your'e ever in Saidia as long as you dont have a backpack and funny beard :ph34r:

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Surrounded by other sand. Approx 150m distant there are many Fadesa built villas already up. Quite a lot of the lakes and irrigation now in place. There are piles of rock everywhere to shape THE THREE 18 HOLE GOLF COURSES:rolleyes:

Biglog I'll buy you a beer if your'e ever in Saidia as long as you dont have a backpack and funny beard :ph34r:

Seriously Dogbox, thanks for the beer, come to Casablanca and I may take you up on it. I've been to Saidia, and I'm in no rush to go back.

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On what foundations do you make this claim.

A couple arrived back from Med Saidia on Wednesday having met Anton from Superior to view thier property.

They are customers of mine and a while back told me they were going to invest in Bulgaria. I suggested they look at Morocco and leant them my copy of Superiors brochure. They cancelled Bulgaria and instead put a deposit on a Saidia property - 'Oasis appartment'.

They showed me the photos. Fadesa are well progressed with hundreds of properties built but I dont like the look of them.

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Dogbox, I think your friends mean your villa is within 150m of Fadesa apartments. Completed villas are surther away. The apartments look good (only saw from outside) though that particular plot is perhaps the most crammed on the whole development. Not as well spaced out as LFDF or the Magnum. Think Andy posted pictures of them on this thread - many, many pages back.

I've heard different stories about the webcam. At one point it was going to be next to VVT8 to so we could view construction of our villas. Now it would appear it is going to be on top of the reception building (near shopping area next to the marina.)

I don't view the news on the shuttle service as either good or bad, just in line with expectations. (A self contained resort like this was always likely to have a shuttle service.)

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Dogbox, I think your friends mean your villa is within 150m of Fadesa apartments. Completed villas are surther away.

My freinds say they stood on LJDF villa plot when they took the photo as directed by Anton from Superior. Within 150m is a huge line of completed Fadesa villas. Perhaps they were'nt standing on the LJDF plot?

Anyway a heck of alot of building has gone - up since I last saw photos. The size of the marina is breathtaking and the water a lovely colour compared to other marinas Ive seen.

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Tunnel Spain-Morocco

"Actual construction of the 40km twin rail tunnel could take 15 years from when preliminary studies and the exploration tunnels were finished, Giovanni said.

Spanish engineers involved in the project have said that if no major geological or technical problems arise rail passengers could be travelling to and from Africa by 2025.

It would be a twin rail tunnel with a service tunnel between and is projected to carry 9-million passengers in the first year, rising to 11-million after 10 years. It could also carry 8-million tonnes of goods in 2025."

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I was just expressing my disapointment with some actions that I did not quite like, I am sure many others had excellent experiences with Saffron Villas and they seem to be

a very good company for advertising Morocco. So one possible costumer who is not quite happy does not really count.

Anyway, we will see in 2-3 years if Morocco becomes the dream place that many of you expect it to become. if it does, good for all of us as we will have more choice to travelling.

I met them at a recent property exhibition and heard some negative comments from someone leaving their stand. Please PM me and let me know your concerns as I don't want to make an expensive mistake. Thanks

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Latest news on thier investment into Med - Saidia from luxury international hotel group - Barcelo;

Thier 600 room 5* hotel is due to open within the Saidia development summer 2007. You can see details on thier website.

This is the kind of factor that gives me investor confidence and what sets this opportunity appart from most others. The fact there will be up to 10 more up market brand hotels further underpins the proposition.

http://www.barcelo.com/BarceloHotels/en-GB...dia/Saidia/Home

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Latest news on thier investment into Med - Saidia from luxury international hotel group - Barcelo;

Thier 600 room 5* hotel is due to open within the Saidia development summer 2007. You can see details on thier website.

This is the kind of factor that gives me investor confidence and what sets this opportunity appart from most others. The fact there will be up to 10 more up market brand hotels further underpins the proposition.

http://www.barcelo.com/BarceloHotels/en-GB...dia/Saidia/Home

I'm really very pleased for you that your investment appears to be sound...however now I really am starting to think your are on commission or something! Why is it that EVERY thread on this forum re Morocco leads back to Saida? (Rhetorical question! Please do not respond with a list of the benefits of this development cos I've read it so many times I can probably chant the bullet points off in my sleep!

Is anybody doing anything in Chechuoan or Fes? If so I'd like to hear about it.

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I'm really very pleased for you that your investment appears to be sound...however now I really am starting to think your are on commission or something! Why is it that EVERY thread on this forum re Morocco leads back to Saida? (Rhetorical question! Please do not respond with a list of the benefits of this development cos I've read it so many times I can probably chant the bullet points off in my sleep!

Is anybody doing anything in Chechuoan or Fes? If so I'd like to hear about it.

I do not know anything about properties in Fez...

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I'm really very pleased for you that your investment appears to be sound...however now I really am starting to think your are on commission or something! Why is it that EVERY thread on this forum re Morocco leads back to Saida? (Rhetorical question! Please do not respond with a list of the benefits of this development cos I've read it so many times I can probably chant the bullet points off in my sleep!

Is anybody doing anything in Chechuoan or Fes? If so I'd like to hear about it.

Please feel free to start your own saidia - free thread.

Ive had a lot of private messages and as you can see the thread has had over 23000 hits, so it would appear someone values the info / banter. :rolleyes:

Stick me on ignore, I can take it :)

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Esmerelda. I think the reason Saidia gets a disproportionate numbe of posts boils down to one thing - it was the first of the 6 PLan Azzur sites to release prices. Most other reasons for this thread being so popular and there being a focus on Saidia come down to this factor. For instance, had Port Lixus been first people would likely have bought into it and be posting about it rather than Saidia.

Saw the Barcelo being constructed in July. It was huge ( not high, just wide.) My guide mentioned that it would be the largest in Morocco and that there would be a casino near reception (between its two wings.) Don't see any mention of the casino on link. Swim to bar sounds good.

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Esmerelda. I think the reason Saidia gets a disproportionate numbe of posts boils down to one thing - it was the first of the 6 PLan Azzur sites to release prices. Most other reasons for this thread being so popular and there being a focus on Saidia come down to this factor. For instance, had Port Lixus been first people would likely have bought into it and be posting about it rather than Saidia.

Saw the Barcelo being constructed in July. It was huge ( not high, just wide.) My guide mentioned that it would be the largest in Morocco and that there would be a casino near reception (between its two wings.) Don't see any mention of the casino on link. Swim to bar sounds good.

I think you'll find the reason Saidia gets a disproportionate number of posts is that it boils down to one thing, Dogbox.

As is often the case, he is talking out of his ar$e about a place he has NEVER even visited (yet claims it's brilliant!).

Those in the know are just giving their experienced perspective (which Dogbox the flipper *has* to counter as he is bricking it)

Dogbox is on one mission - to flip a place (after all, who buys a villa in a country they've never visited, claiming it's for their holidays ?)

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For heaven's sake, put a sock in it and stick the personal comments - you're obsessed!

I have to agree with Biglog and Esmerelda. I can't quite get my head around the fact that a group of people are using HousePriceCrash as a forum to talk about their investment in Saidia.

There are about 15 people (none of them with posts in any other subject on HPC and under 20 posts). They apparently have all bought in Saidia and come on to HousepriceCrash to simply say "Hey Ive heard the Marina is going to be fantastic, have you heard this?" . Why dont you guys set up a Saidia website and talk about this stuff FFS.

IMO this whole Morocco investment is a fraud. A scam which helps a few flippers with them buying off plan and then hyping to stupid brits before selling to them and making a quick dollar.

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I think you'll find the reason Saidia gets a disproportionate number of posts is that it boils down to one thing, Dogbox.

As is often the case, he is talking out of his ar$e about a place he has NEVER even visited (yet claims it's brilliant!).

Those in the know are just giving their experienced perspective (which Dogbox the flipper *has* to counter as he is bricking it)

Dogbox is on one mission - to flip a place (after all, who buys a villa in a country they've never visited, claiming it's for their holidays ?)

Dogbox is probably a 20-something person who is spending alot of time on diferent forums (he uses other nicknames on other forums, thorr, investy1, etc).

Do not take it him seriously anymore.

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Or could it be Im just very enthusiastic and this forum for some unknown reason seems to be popular with Morocco investors?

Biglog I originally invested as the deal had a lot going for it and for sure the 'flip' option is always something any investor ought to seek as a potential exit route.

Having said that Im currently of the opinion that this is a long term hold.

I now seek a new investment and to be honest Im finding it difficult.

I have to agree with Biglog and Esmerelda. I can't quite get my head around the fact that a group of people are using HousePriceCrash as a forum to talk about their investment in Saidia.

There are about 15 people (none of them with posts in any other subject on HPC and under 20 posts). They apparently have all bought in Saidia and come on to HousepriceCrash to simply say "Hey Ive heard the Marina is going to be fantastic, have you heard this?" . Why dont you guys set up a Saidia website and talk about this stuff FFS.

IMO this whole Morocco investment is a fraud. A scam which helps a few flippers with them buying off plan and then hyping to stupid brits before selling to them and making a quick dollar.

So its ok for people to discuss 'Gold' at immense legnth (see Singing Pig) but somehow investment into Morocco is a problem?

Perhaps Morocco is worthy of such attention

long season,

chav free zone,

short flights,

exotic,

Spannish French and English widely spoken,

large unspoiled beaches,

big developers attracted,

Free - Trade agreement with the US,

'Open Skies Policy',

90 miles from The Costas,

unusual high concentration of up market developments,

5000km of new roads being built,

planned development - not the unplanned spread you see in Spain, etc.

'Vision 2010'

Golf on the beach (not a drive as with much of Spain)

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