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Apologies if this has been posted before:

I have wondered for sometime now what effects blair’s departure will have on the economy and in particular house prices.

Even if you don’t trust the man or agree with his polices – you have to admit the guy is a gifted modern day politician, how many times have we seen him go into crunch situations with many commenter speculating that he could be forced to resign……. Only for Blair to come up smelling of roses.

Amongst the sheeple blair is seen as a safe pair have hands and with gordonron skillfully running the miracle economy – Britain is seen as great place to live and invest.

Now …try to think like a sheeple and ask yourself this: when brown becomes pm will he be better than blair? And more to the point – where do we find the next iron chancellor, gordonron is a freakish one off , no other chancellor has skillfully avoided boom & bust like gordonron.

I personally think that sentiment will change amongst the sheeple, ok it won’t ead to an overnight hpc but added to the other stuff : rising unemployment, world interest rates rising, earnings ratio, record dept, crap retail sales ect – it could be an interesting time.

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With Blair's recent "slip-of-the-tongue" comment, I'd say he's hell-bent on screwing Gordon into the ground.

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Name one success of Blair? (not including winning votes)

10 years of low unemployment

Getting the olympics for 2012 ;)

Being PM while we won the ashes

um ...

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IMO Brown won't get a sniff of No.10

Blair is smart enough to keep GB hanging on until the 'miracle economy' starts to backfire. When unemployment, repossessions and bankruptcies are all rising, and yes, even the fabled HPC is recognised as happening, GB will lose all credibility.

Blair can blame everything on his Chancellor, move someone else into the post and the pressure on him moving aside is reduced. In that case, barring unforseen circumstances, I'd give good odds on him deciding that he'd really quite like to fight the next election as PM.

TLM

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Oh shit! Of course! FOX HUNTING.

Forgot all about that AMAZINGLY IMPORTANT ISSUE.

:rolleyes:

For F**Ks sake.

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Well all gfromls said was that he was a successful politician and as he has been voted in 3 times now and a politicians primary aim is to be elected then he is very successful.

Can anyone name a modern politician who has achieved more than this.

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10 years of low unemployment

Getting the olympics for 2012 ;)

Being PM while we won the ashes

um ...

10 years of low unemployment?? That's changing now isn't it, he has set us all up for a nice long recession.

Getting the olympics for 2012. (not including winning votes)

Being PM while we won the ashes. Is 'that' the reason we won then?

minimum wage. stability in NI. fox hunting ban.

minimum wage. Didn't european legislation have something to do with it?

stability in NI They still kneecap, terrorize, extort, rob, kill.

fox hunting ban. They still fox hunt

NO HE’S DONE £UCKALL. :angry:

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IMO Brown won't get a sniff of No.10

I'd give good odds on him deciding that he'd really quite like to fight the next election as PM.

TLM

I think this too.

Interesting snippet on news either today or yesterday "priest comes to no. 10 because of security risks the blairs can no longer go to church"...

And of course the tragic irony is brown is at no. 10 now as its smaller than no. 11 and Blair needed all the room for the kids.

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he was still a lot better than john major.

actually, looking back. maybe he isnt. at least housing was very stable then. i dont know much else about the uk. i didnt live here during most of the major years. he was rather grey though.

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Prime Ministers and Chancellors influence short term economics but the business cycle runs the economy in the medium and long term. No Chancellor will be able to protect the UK from the coming tidal wave of reality originating in the Far East as IR begin to rise to pay for the years of discounted credit and irrational borrowing.

IMHO, Tony will keep Gordon right where he is and enjoy watching him squirm when the vehicle of his "miracle", HPI, falls off the cliff.

The Bond markets are screaming out the warnings--higher IR are here and they are just going to keep going higher.

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As someone who lives in London/the south east I hope Gordon Brown never becomes PM - in his eyes the capital's only role is to act as a cash cow for the Scots and Welsh.

Why for god's sake do we have a national minimum wage and national benefit and pension rates which take no account of the fact that its a tad bit more expensive to live in Dulwich than in Dunfermeline. Why do the the Scots get a massive injection of English taxpayers cash to provide free nursing care for the elderly and free tuition fees to students (which us English don't get cos Scottish Labour MPs whose constituents are unaffected vote in these policies). Let alone the hideously complicated tax credit system which is a total shambles and the total unwillingness to address the pensions crisis created in no small part by this Chancellor.

God help the English if Brown ever gets into No 10.

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As someone who lives in London/the south east I hope Gordon Brown never becomes PM - in his eyes the capital's only role is to act as a cash cow for the Scots and Welsh.

Why for god's sake do we have a national minimum wage and national benefit and pension rates which take no account of the fact that its a tad bit more expensive to live in Dulwich than in Dunfermeline. Why do the the Scots get a massive injection of English taxpayers cash to provide free nursing care for the elderly and free tuition fees to students (which us English don't get cos Scottish Labour MPs whose constituents are unaffected vote in these policies). Let alone the hideously complicated tax credit system which is a total shambles and the total unwillingness to address the pensions crisis created in no small part by this Chancellor.

God help the English if Brown ever gets into No 10.

Bwahahahahahahaha

It's pure revenge for 18 years of imposed rule from London - Scots vote heavily one, way? Well ****** you all you'll do as your told. Large, efficiently run council with unsurpassed integrated transportation system but isn't Tory - ****** you we're breaking you up and making you pay more. No disparate taxation allowed by law - once again ****** you you're getting the poll tax first.

Yes, all Scots have plotted for the day we destroy England, it's one huge conspiracy.

Jesus, get a ******ing grip.

Want to know why things like pensions aren't adjusted for cost of living? 1) Because that would be a beauraucratic nightmare, 2) because what if someone works in a high cost of living area all their life then retires to a low cost of living area, or vice versa 3) Encourages old people to move from expensive area to cheap area, freeing up expensive area (thus making it cheaper) for those who work there.

Want to blame someone for ******ed up pensions? How about companies for stealing from the pot, politicians for allowing that and rampant inflation in necessary expenses (taxes, energy)?

BTW, ever seen the cost of living in Glasgow or Edinburgh? Should Glaswegians bitch at some little town in England for stealing their money?

Scotland pays its way. Revenues from Scotland have exceeded expenditures for years - just the centralised 'send all money to London then back out' structure makes it look like you're funding us. As part of devolition we have control over more of our finances and choose to a) not have students rack up insane debt, and b ) not turf old people out of their home for daring to have been careful with cash during their life. Are you so bitter you want everyone to be ******ed up? Misery loves company I suppose.

There's more than enough MPs in England to pass a change in those laws - did they try and fail because of the evil Scots? No - they never even tried. If you want it, pressure your MP and see if they can get a bill up for it - I'll bet they'll not even consider it, but you'll still blame the Scots anyway.

Scots are pissed at the waste of money by politicians too - look at the Scottish Parliament. What a giant mess - a last ******-you imposed by a parting establishment. No-one wanted it there, no-one believed the low estimates, but we got it anyway. Our very own Millenium Dome. BTW, did only Londoners pay for that, or did all Brits cough up there share for that?. Same question for the Olympics?

Oh, and want to see a ******ed up tax system? Try living in the US. I'm trying to do my taxes here just now and they make the UK self assessment look like nothing.

When things are going bad and the outlook is bleak, the small minded go looking for scapegoats - the few, the weak, or the alien. It's worked for a lot of groups over the years - take a look around you and realise blame doesn't lie with the nasty foreign boogeyman - it lies with the rich and powerful. Blame them. Blame the people that voted them in. Blame the people that didn't vote at all. Blame the inneffective opposition for allowing them free reign. Blame the media for not reporting the abuses, and blame the people that buy the paper for talking about Posh and Becks rather than the theft of their financial future.

Or go ahead, just blame the Scots, because of course if it wasn't for us you'd be sitting on a gold crapper just now, lighting your cigar with a 20 quid note, before screwing you supermodel girlfriend and her twin sister.

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Tony Blairs Finest achievement has been to drop the intial Tory Plans during his first few years and finally nail the true Socialist Colours to the mast.

As a result we can all now see for ourselves that under Socialists many thousands of people lose their lives, and the general population are taxed to buggery.

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Well roll on independence for Scotland then - and see how fast the money runs out!

Oh dear.

Click Here to see the findings of a chartered accountant who uses official goverment figures to which conclude that Scotland currently pays 25% more into the treasury than it receives. And this is without the Oil and Gas revenues being taken into account. I only wish other Scots had the bottle to go it alone.

Is it any wonder an under-funded nation has so many health and social problems.

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As much as I detest Blair, I hope the status quo is maintained for the duration of this Parliament, as I would much rather see Brown get his comeuppance than for Blair to go.

Ditto, but only in the same sense that I'd rather be shot in the head than eaten alive by rabid weasels.

Would confidence not seep from our shores, given that Brown is generally regarded as a truer depiction of old Labour?

Almost certainly, I'd imagine.

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Well roll on independence for Scotland then - and see how fast the money runs out!

What happens if Scotland becomes independent and you're still in the same poor financial situation (or even worse)?

Who do you blame next? Those layabout Geordies? The dirty scrounging Scousers? The Welsh? Do you stop when it's everyone but your county, your city, your street, yourself that's to blame?

Stop looking for an easy scapegoat and find the real culprits, the corporations dodging taxes and abusing workers and the politicians in their pocket and on the take.

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As much as I detest Bliar does anyone really think Gordon Clown will be any better?

I suppose die hard labour voters will think so

I think he'll be even worse. He'll make us even more sorry that we were born

As someone who lives in London/the south east I hope Gordon Brown never becomes PM - in his eyes the capital's only role is to act as a cash cow for the Scots and Welsh.

Why for god's sake do we have a national minimum wage and national benefit and pension rates which take no account of the fact that its a tad bit more expensive to live in Dulwich than in Dunfermeline. Why do the the Scots get a massive injection of English taxpayers cash to provide free nursing care for the elderly and free tuition fees to students (which us English don't get cos Scottish Labour MPs whose constituents are unaffected vote in these policies). Let alone the hideously complicated tax credit system which is a total shambles and the total unwillingness to address the pensions crisis created in no small part by this Chancellor.

God help the English if Brown ever gets into No 10.

I think he should be treated to the same treatment as he has inflicted

ie - he's sat back and watched the young people of this country gradually lose hope in ever being able to afford a place of their own

I think Blair should sit back and watch Gordon be demoralised to a lump of s**t. Dangle the carrot, then DON'T GIVE IT HIM :angry:

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