a j Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Well, to be fair to Labour MPs, it was only Tory support that allowed Bliar to get the Iraq war going. Of course if those Labour MPs hadn't known that the Tories would ensure that Bliar got his war anyway, they'd probably have held their noses and voted for it so as not to give him a very public defeat at the hands of his own party. Getting re-elected is more important to most politicians than sticking to their principles (if they have any other than making as much money as they can). Mark, Are you trying to say that a majority of Labour MP's voted against the war? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brainclamp Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 The only way you are going to change the poltical landscape is to vote - against the policy of millions and millions of people coming into the UK, lowering inflation by deflating wages, and making landlords rich and creating astonishing levels of corruption in politics as the money buys power. Poltics today is a multimillion pound business, with MPs like Hewitt recuiting spin writers to disguise failings, and nu-tory leader Cameron paying £273,000pa for his spin consultant. If politics was funded soley by the membership, all the monsteroius spin and lying machinary used to push policies for big business couldn't be sustained and the membership would be footing the bills and have to be consulted on real issues, the parties would have to appeal for more members. Since the spining machinary, membership has collapsed. Now they intend to take money out of your pocket, to pay the £1/4m salaries of thier 'consultants' to 'spin' to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viterbi Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 Are you implying that there are people posting here with the permission of the BNP leadership? Possibly. A few people have stated they are BNP members and I take it with good faith that they have permission from Griffin & co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once in a lifetime Posted April 2, 2006 Share Posted April 2, 2006 No the grassroots dont know what is goin down on the ground Liz - that's my point. Already had PMs from those interested in joining. ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED PLEASE PM ME ASAP. ACTUALLY, I'M OLD LABOUR AND HATE THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP - ANY CHANCE TO DO SOME DAMAGE Well I was old Labour too, I left because I hate the current leadership, do some damage, and leave them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Tell us, are you old Labour Tax and Spend, or are you New Labour Tax and Spend. ?. A leapord never changes its spots springs to mind. Labour is a culture, and a following, it would be disingenuous to even begin to pretend its changes, its always been the party of envy, and the party of self serving self important t0ssers who think nothing of fleecing the working classes and jumping into bed with the upper classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whistleblower Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I will sign up in May 2007 when Tony Blair takes his seat in the House Of Lords ,lives in his gaff in Connaught Square and Dennis Skinner is leader. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Cat Bounce Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Good point Whistleblower When Dennis Skinner becomes Prime Minister there will be a mass exodus from this country and what will we have? At last a House Price Crash,unless this website is taken into State Ownership! I would like to see that well known heckler Walter Wolfgang lead Labour instead Of Tony "Stalin" Bliar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theChuz Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 No the grassroots dont know what is goin down on the ground Liz - that's my point. Already had PMs from those interested in joining. ANYONE ELSE INTERESTED PLEASE PM ME ASAP. ACTUALLY, I'M OLD LABOUR AND HATE THE CURRENT LEADERSHIP - ANY CHANCE TO DO SOME DAMAGE If only you could see the hand gesture i'm making, i'll leave it to your imagination. One thing i despise more than incompetance is betrayal, you wish to damage the thing you are apart of, you are what makes the party rotten. Yes, they/you are an incompetant bunch of self serving idiots but YOUR betrayal is disgusting. I question your integrity, i question your trustworthyness, i question you as a spokesperson to any social group. That being said i see you joined on the 1st of april and i suppose it is an angle to get people discussing politics other than the BNP boll*cks that is spouted all to often here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once in a lifetime Posted April 9, 2006 Share Posted April 9, 2006 Tell us, are you old Labour Tax and Spend, or are you New Labour Tax and Spend. ?. A leapord never changes its spots springs to mind. Labour is a culture, and a following, it would be disingenuous to even begin to pretend its changes, its always been the party of envy, and the party of self serving self important t0ssers who think nothing of fleecing the working classes and jumping into bed with the upper classes. I joined through trade union membership. (Socialist/ Tax and Spend) Free education, Worker's rights, Nationalised rail and Health. Social Housing - Kill Thatcher- the bitch! No bloody BTL landlords! Tax the fat cats. Working class, and proud of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurejon Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I joined through trade union membership. (Socialist/ Tax and Spend)Free education, Worker's rights, Nationalised rail and Health. Social Housing - Kill Thatcher- the bitch! No bloody BTL landlords! Tax the fat cats. Working class, and proud of it. But it is the power of the trade unions that has allowed Blair to offshore Manufacturing, and many other core business'es in the UK. The trade unions support offshoring, and therefore support the destruction of british workers jobs, yet the british workers like yourself pay your subs and keep the Union bosses in the manner to which they live today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Once in a lifetime Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 But it is the power of the trade unions that has allowed Blair to offshore Manufacturing, and many other core business'es in the UK. The trade unions support offshoring, and therefore support the destruction of british workers jobs, yet the british workers like yourself pay your subs and keep the Union bosses in the manner to which they live today. Agree... I don't pay anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Cletus VanDamme Posted April 10, 2006 Share Posted April 10, 2006 I guess no-one noticed that this topic was started on April 1. Surprised anyone replied really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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