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BBC news programme tonight, PM lead with the news that the police were now investigating the 'loans' for peerages Nu Labour Scam and that Phoney Bliar was up to is neck in it and had to go soon.

The outrageously Bliast BBC news page fails to mention it at all? Leading with a story from Charles Clarke instead:

"Charles Clarke says "serious questions" over Jack Dromey's capacity as Labour treasurer are raised by the loans row. " What a plonker!!!

How silly of us, it was the treasurers fault all along!! For not noticing the 14.5 million 'Tessa' bung that the party had bundled under the mattress. So Phoney Bliar is squeeky clean once more........

How exactly does a non productive party like Nu Labour pay off a 'loan' of 14.5 million at commecial rates anyway? Do they have tombolas or car boot sales or something, contribute from their free London house gravy train allowances?

I think we should be told how a loan gets paid off? If it doesn't get paid off the surely it is a big fat Nu Labour Phoney Bliar/"Crash" Gordon Frown ticket to the Lords?

I think we should be told.

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BBC news programme tonight, PM lead with the news that the police were now investigating the 'loans' for peerages Nu Labour Scam and that Phoney Bliar was up to is neck in it and had to go soon.

The outrageously Bliast BBC news page fails to mention it at all? Leading with a story from Charles Clarke instead:

"Charles Clarke says "serious questions" over Jack Dromey's capacity as Labour treasurer are raised by the loans row. " What a plonker!!!

How silly of us, it was the treasurers fault all along!! For not noticing the 14.5 million 'Tessa' bung that the party had bundled under the mattress. So Phoney Bliar is squeeky clean once more........

How exactly does a non productive party like Nu Labour pay off a 'loan' of 14.5 million at commecial rates anyway? Do they have tombolas or car boot sales or something, contribute from their free London house gravy train allowances?

I think we should be told how a loan gets paid off? If it doesn't get paid off the surely it is a big fat Nu Labour Phoney Bliar/"Crash" Gordon Frown ticket to the Lords?

I think we should be told.

When this story broke my first thoughts were "That paid for the election campaign, without it they were ******ed, and those loans will never be paid back, they`ll be written off" ;)

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When this story broke my first thoughts were "That paid for the election campaign, without it they were ******ed, and those loans will never be paid back, they`ll be written off" ;)

The irony is that that all dough was going on adverts saying things like "no more repossessions like the nasty tory years"...

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there was a film in the 80's about a divorcing couple called KRAMER vs KRAMER.

eerily similar in a lot of respects is the acrimonious slanging match between the messrs Blair.

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New Labour spin machine starts the process of trying to rubbish Jack Dromey, with Charles Clarke taking the position of Dr Goebbels this time.

How this appalling bunch are still in power is utterly beyond me - what hope for the UK when these are the best leaders we can come up with

Im also surprised that no one has come back to question Clarke's competence in the recent spate of trials of murders committed by dangerous criminals on probation. Surely a competent Home Secretary should have some idea of how many dangerous psychopaths he has allowed to roam the streets.

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'House of Commons Hansard Debates for 20 Mar 1997 (pt 4)':

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/c...xt/70320-04.htm

"...it will leave a stain on the character of his Government that will be erased only by a new Government with a fresh mandate, who will restore confidence in our public life for good."

-- Tony Blair, referring to a £2 million blind fund under the previous government.

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'House of Commons Hansard Debates for 20 Mar 1997 (pt 4)':

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/c...xt/70320-04.htm

-- Tony Blair, referring to a £2 million blind fund under the previous government.

GOOD FIND!!

"Tough on Sleaze and Tough on the causes of Sleeeeeeeeeze!!!!!"

Errr pardon?

Surprised Nu Labour can sleep these days, what with the blood of 30,000 dead Iraqis on thier dirty little socialist hands as well...................

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Hang on, so let me get this straight...

Jack Dromey is to be the fall guy because he DIDN'T know about the loans

Blair get away with it, even though he DID

It appears the Newlabour code of ethics says corruption is better than incompetence. So what Clarke is saying is "Jack Dromey should go because he didn't catch Tony Blair cooking the books". How low can these people sink?

What's sad is that they'll probably get their way, in the same way that it was the BBC heads that rolled over WMDs.

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The significant thing for me (BBC news report) was how Gordon "Miracle Economy" Brown was portrayed. Removed from the scandal throughout as Tony is portrayed as a skulking criminal then Gordon is shown at the end smiling as the man for the job and the man we can all "trust." Collusion by the Beeb to get their man elected now that the knifes have been drawn to finish Tony off. No waiting a year its on now.

David "Scotty" Cameron--get your act together because Gordo threatens!

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...60321?hub=World

Police opened an investigation Tuesday into allegations that Prime Minister Tony Blair sold seats in the House of Lords in exchange for secret loans to his governing Labour party, another twist in a political furor that has prompted calls for Blair to leave his job.

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...60321?hub=World

Police opened an investigation Tuesday into allegations that Prime Minister Tony Blair sold seats in the House of Lords in exchange for secret loans to his governing Labour party, another twist in a political furor that has prompted calls for Blair to leave his job.

If he gets any more corrupt, he will be able to run for US president :)

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http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/stor...60321?hub=World

Police opened an investigation Tuesday into allegations that Prime Minister Tony Blair sold seats in the House of Lords in exchange for secret loans to his governing Labour party, another twist in a political furor that has prompted calls for Blair to leave his job.

I'm sure that an inquiry will find that everything was above board and even if it wasn't then nobody was at fault.

Billy Shears

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Guest Bart of Darkness

According to Alex Salmond (SNP) on R5 earlier, 80% of all donations to NuLab end up with peerages being awarded...

Hmmm..... Lord Bart of Darkness.

Has a certain ring to it.

Wonder how much it's gonna cost me?

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couldn't resist ressurecting this one. :lol:

let's savour that quote again from Mr Clarke...

Charles Clarke says he has "serious questions about Jack Dromey's capacity" as Labour treasurer after the row over the £14m of secret loans to the party.

He says the fact Mr Dromey did not know about the loans meant "you have to wonder how well he was doing his work".

Oh the irony!

SURELY some interviewer is going to throw this one back at him :D

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couldn't resist ressurecting this one. :lol:

let's savour that quote again from Mr Clarke...

Charles Clarke says he has "serious questions about Jack Dromey's capacity" as Labour treasurer after the row over the £14m of secret loans to the party.

He says the fact Mr Dromey did not know about the loans meant "you have to wonder how well he was doing his work".

Oh the irony!

SURELY some interviewer is going to throw this one back at him :D

You like to think they would, but most interviewers are cr@p let's face it.

Good call by the way!

NDL

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BBC news programme tonight, PM lead with the news that the police were now investigating the 'loans' for peerages Nu Labour Scam and that Phoney Bliar was up to is neck in it and had to go soon.

The outrageously Bliast BBC news page fails to mention it at all? Leading with a story from Charles Clarke instead:

"Charles Clarke says "serious questions" over Jack Dromey's capacity as Labour treasurer are raised by the loans row. " What a plonker!!!

How silly of us, it was the treasurers fault all along!! For not noticing the 14.5 million 'Tessa' bung that the party had bundled under the mattress. So Phoney Bliar is squeeky clean once more........

How exactly does a non productive party like Nu Labour pay off a 'loan' of 14.5 million at commecial rates anyway? Do they have tombolas or car boot sales or something, contribute from their free London house gravy train allowances?

I think we should be told how a loan gets paid off? If it doesn't get paid off the surely it is a big fat Nu Labour Phoney Bliar/"Crash" Gordon Frown ticket to the Lords?

I think we should be told.

New Labour's leaders including the Pm should be charged, arrested and tried for their part in this scam....

Because of the way political parties are funded (they don't have a regular income like companies and individuals) any purported loan is a de facto gift as there is no way it can be paid back and no way can the people in the Labour Party say they ever intended paying it back......so it's fraudulent and dishonest but difficult to know what other fraud it could be compared with............and how tough the punishment should be........

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I think that the "police involvement" consisted of an armed escort to the bank so that Mr Blair can roll around naked amidst big piles of his money, cackling loudly, without being bothered by hoi polloi.

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New Labour's leaders including the Pm should be charged, arrested and tried for their part in this scam....

Because of the way political parties are funded (they don't have a regular income like companies and individuals) any purported loan is a de facto gift as there is no way it can be paid back and no way can the people in the Labour Party say they ever intended paying it back......so it's fraudulent and dishonest but difficult to know what other fraud it could be compared with............and how tough the punishment should be........

The potential danger in all this is that the major parties will argue and vote for public funding of parties.

That means the taxpayers will then have very open (tax) chequebooks courtesy of those very same politicians.

"We only want the money to ensure a vibrant democracy".

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With things this bad for the PM and the BBC having no real news it can report under the terms of government censorship I feel another terrorist attack coming on to take all of our minds of the dirty doings at No10 and 11

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With things this bad for the PM and the BBC having no real news it can report under the terms of government censorship I feel another terrorist attack coming on to take all of our minds of the dirty doings at No10 and 11

no need......... prescot's affair is remarkable timing......me thinks <_<

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no need......... prescot's affair is remarkable timing......me thinks <_<

move along now... nothing to see here about any loans scandal... water under the bridge and all that.

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