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The Business: Brown's Tax Grab The Biggest In Uk History.

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'Brown's tax grab the biggest in UK history':

http://www.thebusinessonline.com/Stories.a...12-423C765A43D1

In a devastating series of reports this weekend, the Centre for Policy Studies says Brown's rise in public spending as a share of GDP since 2000 is the largest of any large OECD country. Ruth Lea, director of the Centre, said: "Many countries are reducing the state's share of GDP and that of the tax burden. The UK is swimming against the tide."

Fresh figures in another Centre for Policy Studies paper show income per person is 12% higher in OECD countries with lean governments than in countries with bloated governments. The research by international economic consultant Keith Marsden also shows real GDP grew by 4.1% a year between 1997 and 2005 in the small government countries, against 1.9% in big-government countries.

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"Right wing clap trap" is all I can say. Scandanavian countires are the most advanced in the world and they are all big government. It's not how much tax that matters, it's where it goes and how efficiently it is spent. Sadly, Britain is not particularly good at either but the general principle is unfounded

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Centre for Policy Studies?? Centre for Policy Studies?? Now, remind me what part of the political spectrum they occupy?

Oh, yes, I remember! Just Right of Ghengis Khan - Keith Joseph and Mad Maggie country.

Well. Well. What a surprise! They don't support Gordon Brown! Who'd have thougt it!!

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Scandanavian countires are the most advanced in the world and they are all big government.

Yeah, I think that every time I buy a new Swedish computer or a Norwegian genetic engineering system.

Back in reality-land, the only things I can think of that come from Scandinavia are Ikea furniture and porn: and the guy who runs Ikea moved to Switzerland to escape their punitive taxes. When their oil runs out, they'll be even worse off than we are.

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Back in reality-land, the only things I can think of that come from Scandinavia are Ikea furniture and porn

A lot of the best porn comes from Eastern Europe these days (cheaper wages).

So I'm told. :)

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"Right wing clap trap" is all I can say. Scandanavian countires are the most advanced in the world and they are all big government. It's not how much tax that matters, it's where it goes and how efficiently it is spent. Sadly, Britain is not particularly good at either but the general principle is unfounded

The UK tax take is greater than that of Germany this year, would you say our public services, schools, hospitals and public transport is better? The UK government could double its tax take again but it would just be spent on useless crap that wouldn't improve anything.

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Useless crap. Now that is an area where Britain is a world leader.

Well... it's something.

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"Right wing clap trap" is all I can say. Scandanavian countires are the most advanced in the world and they are all big government. It's not how much tax that matters, it's where it goes and how efficiently it is spent. Sadly, Britain is not particularly good at either but the general principle is unfounded

It also helps them out a bit that they are the size of California with the population of Birmingham... Not the case in the UK....

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Back in reality-land, the only things I can think of that come from Scandinavia are Ikea furniture and porn

And Swedes.

When I visited Sweden every young person I met was planning their escape.

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When their oil runs out, they'll be even worse off than we are.

No, they won't. Because Norway has 2 efficient state-owned oil firms that return profits to the state rather than shareholders, and it has put most of its oil revenues into a massive trillion-dollar fund that will generate as much revenue through interest when oil runs out as oil does now, if not more. Norway is the ONLY oil-producing country in the world that has got it right, because they are smart enough to think about the long term.

We, on the other hand, have had our oil money spunked away by successive politicians for the benefit of their own careers.

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Norway is the ONLY oil-producing country in the world that has got it right, because they are smart enough to think about the long term. [El Pirata]

How many barrels in oil reserves per head of population does Norway have in comparison to the UK?

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No, they won't. Because Norway has 2 efficient state-owned oil firms that return profits to the state rather than shareholders, and it has put most of its oil revenues into a massive trillion-dollar fund that will generate as much revenue through interest when oil runs out as oil does now, if not more. Norway is the ONLY oil-producing country in the world that has got it right, because they are smart enough to think about the long term.

Indeed, but significant amounts of their fund are invested in London (including BP, and Shell!), most companies reflected in stock markets will perform very poorly in a post-oil age. They should make like the Arab states and buy gold.

http://www.volvo.com/group/sweden/sv-se

http://www.ericsson.com/se/

Not bad for a country of 9 million eller?

What, a car company owned by Ford and a phone manufacturer owned by Sony? :P

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We're due an existential crisis in the West. High taxation won't help us through it.

And the welfare state is rubbish.

Well, I'm going to insist I get my own personal "Existential crisis awareness adviser".

It's my human right.

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Well, I'm going to insist I get my own personal "Existential crisis awareness adviser".

It's my human right.

Can I audit the work of the Existential crisis awareness advisers - SE London?

"Assuring quality existential crisis for all"

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"Island monkies"

http://www.abb.com/global/abbzh/abbzh251.n...ba?OpenDocument

TheChuz if you are out there, I dont know how much more I take take of people.. aka idiots..

http://www.omxgroup.com/omxcorp/

etc etc

http://www.volvo.com/group/sweden/sv-se

http://www.ericsson.com/se/

Not bad for a country of 9 million eller?

The journey is tough but once you finally reach the other side its a nice place to be, your anger turns to a deep seated disgust of man. Its not all bad though once your there, people cant dissapoint you anymore because you expect nothing from them other than thier stupidty.

When people become outraged you can shrug your shoulders because its of no suprise to you. The journey is tough, full of bitterness but eventually you arrive on the other side content, theres a weird purity because its so heavily contaminated.

People suck, its what they do, its how they are.

:ph34r:

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Can I audit the work of the Existential crisis awareness advisers - SE London?

"Assuring quality existential crisis for all"

"OFFEXISAWE welcomes applications from all sectors of the community" etc.

Even psychologists!

Trouble is, one can see it happening.

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