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I agree that the NHS is one of this country's best aspects. The state education system, and the people in it, are one of its worst(no disrespect to anyone who went to a state school). I would find it hard to believe that any country's education system can be worse than the UK's; we have plumbed an all-time low.

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Got to admit that the OZ education system is not too good.Only have experience of kindergarden level though. My six year old at the time played most of the day on the swings and slides. Everything was very free and easy. It was when he came home and asked for a roll-up I started to panic but luckly found out it was a fruit winder! phew!

In America I was shocked. Learning 3 languages, maths, English homework everynight. They really pushed him to the limit. Its just adjusting to the different values out there that take time. Valentines day - everybody gets cards in school with half a day off. I was thinking my little boy was gonna be gay as he only wanted to give cards to the boys :ph34r:

I wonder why the all turn out so thick and vote for Bush?

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Amazing that Australia seems to be a carbon copy of the UK in that respect: abysmal free state schooling and expensive, costly, variable quality private schooling. Looks like its made the same mistakes as the UK.

Put the worst mistakes from the UK and the USA together from the last 25 years and you have what Australia is doing now!

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I thought John Howard got in cos he promised not to raise IRs or otherwise attempt to deflate the property bubble? Have you any anecdotal experience of racist sentiments by Australian people(ie have you heard people say racist things, have you seen people of other races being verbally abused, etc)? I'm willing to accept that racism is a problem in Australia(after all, White Australia policy, problems with Aborigines etc), just wondered if you had any personal anecdotes to relate.

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I thought John Howard got in cos he promised not to raise IRs or otherwise attempt to deflate the property bubble? Have you any anecdotal experience of racist sentiments by Australian people?

A few. My Greek neighbours in suburban Melbourne were constantly sent abusive letters and received abusive phone calls from residents in our street who wanted the "wogs" to go home.

My mother-in-law has said she would never buy a house if she knew that "Darkies" lived next door becuase they are all alcoholics.

Of course a great deal of Aussies are not racist and are tolerant, the problem in my opinion is that basically the Howard government is instutionally racist and with it's policies has fostered a growing wave of intolerace in Australian communities. This wave is allowing people who have these kinds of views to start to feel that they are acceptable and normal and therefore are more vocal than they have been.

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A few.  My Greek neighbours in suburban Melbourne were constantly sent abusive letters and received abusive phone calls from residents in our street who wanted the "wogs" to go home.

My mother-in-law has said she would never buy a house if she knew that "Darkies" lived next door becuase they are all alcoholics.

Of course a great deal of Aussies are not racist and are tolerant, the problem in my opinion is that basically the Howard government is instutionally racist and with it's policies has fostered a growing wave of intolerace in Australian communities.  This wave is allowing people who have these kinds of views to start to feel that they are acceptable and normal and therefore are more vocal than they have been.

Totally agree, one of the reasons we are going WA is the better attitude to immigrants being as 27% are born overseas.

The immigration policies are extremely tight, for example if you have a condition that is likely to cost more than £10k per year the state (health or education) it is an instant no. Basically no blind, no hadicapped etc.

Not PC in the least.

We have a son with mild autism but luckily he is doing fine without help, any worse he would have been rejected.

I don't want to get into an Oz versus UK debate.

Every country has it's pros and cons, I am swapping some pros for some cons and vice versa.

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Good and bad in both countries, I didn’t have any problems with the care I got from the NHS in west london, although my GP was a F*ckwit, and I havent with Medicare in Oz, although the hospitals are a bit cleaner here.

The quality of schooling depends on the area you live in - if you choose to live in an up and coming inner city area the schools will be crap as they reflect the quality & attitude of families who send their kids there, whereas if you live in a more prosperous area the school will be better - inner city Australia has the same problems as inner city UK. The suburb I live in here is a good one, so the local state schooling is excellent and that is where I send my kids.

Australia has a strict immigration policy but it helps in planning its society and infrastructure better. It isnt racist as it is tough for everyone. Australia has decided that it doesn’t want to subsidise freeloaders and queuejumpers and it is a popular policy, that is one of the reasons Howard got re elected, as well as not being in the pocket of the unions, being economically pragmatic, and not being in thrall to political correctness and worrying about such nonsensical phrases as "institutional racism"

I do feel however that the UK has a tendency to stuck in the past, it is a very backward looking & conservative society, whereas Australia doesnt have the same baggage.

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You are making a good decision coming to Perth, it's one of the best kept secrets on earth. I moved here about 15 years ago after growing up in Sydney and spending 3 years living in London and would not live anywhere else.

Property prices here are in slow decline so I would not be in a hurry to buy. Perth is probably behind the rest of Australia in the property boom and bust cycle as it did not have the out of control apartment building that Sydney and Melbourne have had in the last couple of years. It has also had a real boom in the resources sector due to good prices for oil and metals, so there is a fairly buoyant local economy.

Be aware that the $A has been rising dramatically against the $US lately, I am not sure where it is against the pound but you might want to look closely at exchange rate forecasts to determine when is the best time to switch your money into dollars.

I would agree that the state school system in Australia could be better but I think that our medical system is a good compromise between the British public health system and the U.S. user pays system.

Employment is good here if you are a lawyer, accountant, software engineer, IT specialist or anything to do with mining or oil. Building industry workers have been in strong demand for the last few years but that will probably taper off over the next few years.

Bring your hat and sunscreen and start reading up on Australian Rules football, you'll get bugger all else here!

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Totally agree, one of the reasons we are going WA is the better attitude to immigrants being as 27% are born overseas.

Your statistics may be correct, but I disagree that their attitude is better, especially to the Aboriginal community. My cousin lives there and I have spent many months there and it is the only place in Australia I have witnessed full on racial violence, and that was perpetrated by 2nd generation Itialian immigrants! Apparently their average Saturday night involved getting drunk and driving to the poorer areas of Perth and abusing and bashing the "Abbos".

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Australia has a strict immigration policy but it helps in planning its society and infrastructure better. It isnt racist as it is tough for everyone. Australia has decided that it doesn’t want to subsidise freeloaders and queuejumpers and it is a popular policy, that is one of the reasons Howard got re elected, as well as not being in the pocket of the unions, being economically pragmatic, and not being in thrall to political correctness and worrying about such nonsensical phrases as "institutional racism"

In my experience Australia is far more PC in every aspect apart from the race issue, which IMO is probably the most important issue to be PC about!

Are you one of those who believe that the Asylum Seekers aboard the Tampa were all "queue-jumpers" even though 80% of them were actually deemed to be genuine?

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Australia still has baggage from the relatively recent White Australia Policy.

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