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Why didn't he just turn the ignition off?

On most cars the steering column locks when the engine is off. That's why you can't "freewheel" down hills these days to save petrol. I think modern brakes are probably reliant on engine power as well (servo assisted?).

If anyone knows better, I am happy to be corrected... :)

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On most cars the steering column locks when the engine is off. That's why you can't "freewheel" down hills these days to save petrol. I think modern brakes are probably reliant on engine power as well (servo assisted?).

If anyone knows better, I am happy to be corrected... :)

I'm not sure about the steering lock, as long as the key is in the ignition I would have thought it would have stayed unlocked.

Fair comment about the brakes, but I'd choose slow gradual braking (wind/road resistance) over 135mph jammed in 5th any day.

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He could have simply turned the ignition back to position 1, this would have cut the engine and not locked the steering.

Steering does not lock unless the key is removed. Obviously this is far too intelligent for the likes of the police, who probably went into a frenzy with helicopters, fast cars, lots of talk about their "super human training", etc.

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All he needed to do was to wait for a straight bit of road then swith off the ignition, wait a second or two then switch it back on again without starting the engine. Not easy to do in a panick of course but much easier than using a phone. People really should try to understand how things work a little better before getting into a serious situation. Same goes for finances and interest only mortgages etc.

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He could have simply turned the ignition back to position 1, this would have cut the engine and not locked the steering.

Steering does not lock unless the key is removed. Obviously this is far too intelligent for the likes of the police, who probably went into a frenzy with helicopters, fast cars, lots of talk about their "super human training", etc.

The road traffic police probably came into their element and disengaged any intellectual thought.

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Put the clutch in and let the engine bounce off the rev limiter or turn off the ignition?

Cheers,

Tim.

Was an auto I believe - no clutch.

Agree ignition.

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Put the clutch in and let the engine bounce off the rev limiter or turn off the ignition?

Cheers,

Tim.

It was a slushmatic, but he could have knocked it from drive into neutral, as you say, the engine would have then simply bounced off the limiter.

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Put the clutch in and let the engine bounce off the rev limiter or turn off the ignition?

Cheers,

Tim.

Bubbleturbo, the article states that the gears were jammed, so he could not go from drive to neutral.

Tim, I think in the article it states that the BMW was an automatic (i.e. no clutch). But I agree, turning the car off would have been a start.

If he was going at 135 mph for 60 miles, theat must mean that this situation lasted for 25 mintutes (or so). Surely in that time, he could have moved over the the hard shoulder, turned the car off, then turned the key round to position 1, and then rolled to a stop. It might have taken a couple of minutes to roll to a complete stop from 135 mph, but you'd hhve quickly gone down to a safeish speed, and then would be rolling at less that 40 mph for a while before you came ot a standstill.

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1. It was an automatic. (couldn’t dip clutch)

2. Gears were jammed. (couldn’t put in neutral)

3. Brakes worked, but only slowed the vehicle down to 70mph

4. At that speed x his IQ he was probably driving in lane 3.

Solution:

1. Slow down using the brakes, hazard lights on.

2. Get onto the hard shoulder.

3. Try switching the ignition off ‘one click’.

4. Steer / crash onto the embankment, if all else fails.

Doing 135 mph for 60 miles... lucky no one else was involved.

But miraculously he walked away completely unhurt -

and said he is now considering giving up driving for good.

Thank god :ph34r:

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I read in the paper he didn't want to cut the ignition as the power steering would fail.

This would then simply make it like any other car that doesn't have power steering i.e easy to turn wheel at speed (which he was doing) but harder as you slow down.

Bit complicated for him methinks. Better to just do 135mph and hope for the best eh?

EDIT: Why can't I typr properly?

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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4796264.stm

Car that is, anyway there's no justice, MEW=BMW?

There was a similar story a year or two ago involving a truck driver - similar thing happened. The chap later turned out to be an attention seeking fantasist, who subsequently faced a charge of wreckless (or dangerous?) driving.

There's no reason on earth why this fool had to drive at 135mph. Wouldn't slamming on the brakes have been enough to stall the engine? His claim that they burnt out seems a bit far-fetched.

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I'm not sure about the steering lock, as long as the key is in the ignition I would have thought it would have stayed unlocked.

Fair comment about the brakes, but I'd choose slow gradual braking (wind/road resistance) over 135mph jammed in 5th any day.

Are you going to believe I actually did this.

Many years ago when I was stupid and driving at 80 mph on the motorway I decided to unlock the glovebox for something. Turning the engine of so that the vehicle coasted, I then removed the key. Quickly unlocking the glovebox I felt the stearing lock click - still at 80 mph, I careered slowly left from fast lane. Inserting the key just before hard sholder I unlocked steering lock and restarted engine. I hit no one and am still here.

Do not attemt this without consulting an intelligent adult! :lol:

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On most cars the steering column locks when the engine is off. That's why you can't "freewheel" down hills these days to save petrol. I think modern brakes are probably reliant on engine power as well (servo assisted?).

If anyone knows better, I am happy to be corrected... :)

On modern cars the steering locks when you remove the key.

On an auto BMW, switching off the engine would have stopped the steering pump, the car would still have been under control but much harder to turn.

I believe he was scared to turn off the ignition in case it locked or hindered the steering, not unreasonable given he must have been in quite a panic.

Now can we move this to the off-topic forum please!

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I read in the paper he didn't want to cut the ignition as the power steering would fail.

This would then simply make it like any other car that doesn't have power steering i.e easy to turn wheel at speed (which he was doing) but harder as you slow down.

Bit complicated for him methinks. Better to just do 135mph and hope for the best eh?

EDIT: Why can't I typr properly?

A few years ago there was a lorry driver on the motorway and his brakes fail causing mayhem. I think they gave him a police escort and an evacuated the motoway but im sure I read a followup article which said he made the whole thing for attention. Similar kind of thing to beverley allit ( Munchausen syndrome by proxy )He got a buzz from the whole police thing, think he got fined for wasting police time. This sounds pretty similar becuase you would have to be a complete numnuts not to realise that turning the key would turn off the engine. Saying that though some cars dont have keys any more, not sure about beemas but I know the new jag just has a big red start button.

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Why didn't he just turn the ignition off?

I watched this on the news last night and he was asked this very question. Apparently the police told him he did the right thing by not turning it off.

It was a bit misleading regards the age of the BMW because they showed him getting in one with a 55 plate.

Typical BBC.

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repeat after me: I must read to the end of the article, I must read to the end of the article:

The R reg car had 107,000 miles on the clock and had three months remaining on the MOT.

What is your point exactly? Do you not believe that someone would mew to buy a £3.5k car?

NDL

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If he used the brakes continuously they would have over-heated,

he would have got brake fade then possibly brakes failure ~ no brakes.

House prices need to slow down, pull over onto the hard shoulder

And apply the brakes, or they will crash hurting many people

Driving expensive mortgages.

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