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Pay Off Your Mortgage In 2 Years

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It's easy.

All you have to do is become friends with an influential Italian business man, known enigmatically as 'Mr B' (nudge nudge, wink wink) ;)

Then simply get a $600,000 (ahem) loan from said business man and 'liquidate' the funds by settling any outstanding mortgage.

Finally, refuse to tell anyone where you got the money from and hope that any corruption alligations will be forgotten by the next election.

They make it far too complicated on the TV program 'Pay off your mortgage in 2 years', they talk about stuff like "starting your own business", and "earning" the money. Boring, boring boring!

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we are lucky to have tony bair as pm .

remember how he promised to be whiter than white and end the tory sleaze?

well in comparison the hamiltons story ref mohamed al fayed and various sex scandals now look quite tame.

i think nu labour studied tory sleaze and decided that they would beat the bues at the sleaze game.

mind you can you think of one promise tony has ever kept?

trust me.. saddam hussein has wmd that can be deployed against brtitain in 45 minutes

trust me gordon i will step aside soon and let you have the yellow jersey

trust me our 3 priorites are .. education, education, education

trust me we've ended boom and bust

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we are lucky to have tony bair as pm .

remember how he promised to be whiter than white and end the tory sleaze?

well in comparison the hamiltons story ref mohamed al fayed and various sex scandals now look quite tame.

i think nu labour studied tory sleaze and decided that they would beat the bues at the sleaze game.

mind you can you think of one promise tony has ever kept?

trust me.. saddam hussein has wmd that can be deployed against brtitain in 45 minutes

trust me gordon i will step aside soon and let you have the yellow jersey

trust me our 3 priorites are .. education, education, education

trust me we've ended boom and bust

Ah, but it's okay you see, because Labour party members don't recieve their bribes in dirty brown envelopes, their bribes are freshly laundered.

And Labour party member's sexual antics don't envole Chelsea tops or ladies underwear.

No. It's all good clean fun with New Labour.

Edited by Bear Goggles

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It kind of makes you wonder what Nu Lab really stand for and if they have any convictions when senior members are associated with one of the most corrupt and right wing governments in Europe.

Isn't Silvio one of Tony's mates as well?

i think this is the serious point.

the tories were branded as only being interested in the midlde/ upper classes. i think that was incorrect because i believe that thatcherism was successful at improving the standards of the poorest, whilst having not fully turned around the problems from the socialisy 1970s.

labour used to be for the working class, but these are the people who have gained least from browns economic miracle

they have transferred millions from unemployment benefit to incapacity benefit or "schemes" that achieve nothing.

the working classes now cannot afford to buy even desperate ex council homes and depend totally on social housing or the private rented sector.

meanhwile the jowells and the rest of the cronies enjoy swish lifestyles.

and still the working class voted them in again!!( or didnt vote them out)

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It kind of makes you wonder what Nu Lab really stand for and if they have any convictions when senior members are associated with one of the most corrupt and right wing governments in Europe.

Isn't Silvio one of Tony's mates as well?

Of course senior members of nu lab are going to be associated with with the most corrupt and right wing government in europe, they are a member of it! :angry:

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It kind of makes you wonder what Nu Lab really stand for and if they have any convictions when senior members are associated with one of the most corrupt and right wing governments in Europe.

NuLab takes its stance from its leader. I've read a few articles suggesting Blair is a psychopath and I think there might be something in that. If so, he's a hollow man, without any real feelings and thus devoid of any convictions. Trick cyclist-turned-thriller-writer Johnathan Kellerman says the only passion a psychopath can muster is for self-defence. Apply this to Blair and the sole thing he's interested in is his own survival, political rather than actual of course. Bad news for Gordon I reckon. He's another lunatic though, some kind of messianic delusion perhaps? I'd like to see the two of them square up to each other, and both lose.

Edited by LTD

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The odds quoted by William Hill on Tessa Jowell to be out of the cabinet by 1 April 2006 at 9/4 seem attractive to me.

I need to recoup after getting my fingers burnt by Ruth Kelly hanging on.

These new labour "luvvies" never know when they're beaten.

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The odds quoted by William Hill on Tessa Jowell to be out of the cabinet by 1 April 2006 at 9/4 seem attractive to me.

I need to recoup after getting my fingers burnt by Ruth Kelly hanging on.

These new labour "luvvies" never know when they're beaten.

RA

That's brave. I wouldn't bet on it myself!

the don

You could argue that the reason that working class people can't afford to live in a scummy ex-council flat now is because Thatcher sold them off cheap to the previous generation. You can only sell off 40 years of post war social housing at a bargain price once. You are however correct that it improved the living standard of that particular generation.

LTD

I didn't mean this thread to get into a "Blair is a psychopath" rant. I think the moral of the story is that power corrupts. The tories suffered from it in the 90s and now the labour party seem to be going the same way.

I don't know what the answer to this is.

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RA

That's brave. I wouldn't bet on it myself!

the don

You could argue that the reason that working class people can't afford to live in a scummy ex-council flat now is because Thatcher sold them off cheap to the previous generation. You can only sell off 40 years of post war social housing at a bargain price once. You are however correct that it improved the living standard of that particular generation.

LTD

I didn't mean this thread to get into a "Blair is a psychopath" rant. I think the moral of the story is that power corrupts. The tories suffered from it in the 90s and now the labour party seem to be going the same way.

I don't know what the answer to this is.

bear goggles

i agree with selling off council houses to get people off a dependency culture.

there however, has not been enough social housing built to keep up with demand.

if enough houses( social and normaL) were being built and without the investor frenzy of recent years, there would be enough housing available for all.

affordable to buy for those that want to buy and affordable to rent for those without the desire to buy .

at the moment there is no choice for many.

i agree thsa power ultimately corrupts many.

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Trick cyclist-turned-thriller-writer Johnathan Kellerman says the only passion a psychopath can muster is for self-defence.

Have you heard the test to see if you have the mind of a serial killer?

A man goes to the funeral of a relative - there he meets the most beautiful woman he has ever seen. She leaves and he doesn't see her again. A few weeks later he attends the funeral of his sister - why did she die?

See below:

He kills his sister to see if the same woman turns up. If you got this right you have the mind of a psychopathic murderer! I wonder how many politicians would get this right! (sorry if you have heard this before!)

Edited by Bubble Pop Electric

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i think this is the serious point.

the tories were branded as only being interested in the midlde/ upper classes. i think that was incorrect because i believe that thatcherism was successful at improving the standards of the poorest, whilst having not fully turned around the problems from the socialisy 1970s.

labour used to be for the working class, but these are the people who have gained least from browns economic miracle

they have transferred millions from unemployment benefit to incapacity benefit or "schemes" that achieve nothing.

the working classes now cannot afford to buy even desperate ex council homes and depend totally on social housing or the private rented sector.

meanhwile the jowells and the rest of the cronies enjoy swish lifestyles.

and still the working class voted them in again!!( or didnt vote them out)

There is no real opposition tories are a waste of space, liberals bunch of bankers and what are you left with ??

New Labour (tories indisguise) the party of the working classes

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There is no real opposition tories are a waste of space, liberals bunch of bankers and what are you left with ??

New Labour (tories indisguise) the party of the working classes

enoch powell

totally disagree

tories are coing back strong.

nu labours mis management of the economy will be their undoing.

liberals- also rans

your avatar namesake had the right policies.

i dont mean the rivers of blood stuff which was overplayed.

what i mean is his views on europe and on monetarism.

well ahead of his time and the best prime minister we never had

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