Fishfinger Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 7 hours ago, Si1 said: May I call you Anatoly? In my mind you can share a sauna with Little Mishka. If you wish I don't mind although I would prefer Georgy 😁 FYI my wife was born in Walton-Upon-Thamesgrad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted June 20, 2022 Share Posted June 20, 2022 How bad it have to be for Zelensky now, when he is turning to Africa. Just guessing he is after more weapons, West is not sending enough. Africa is a hostage of Russia's war on Ukraine, Zelensky says Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky has called Africa "a hostage" of Russia's war during an address to the African Union (AU) on Monday. Russia's invasion, and its blockade of Ukraine's grain exports, have sparked grain and fertiliser shortages and put millions of people at risk of hunger. BBC Ukrainian mines hinder shipping of grain from Odessa According to Mevlut Cavusoglu, floating naval mines Ukraine has laid in the Black Sea are one of the worst obstacles to shipping grain from Odessa. Ukraine does not want Russian ships to enter Odessa. Another reason is the sanctions against Russian ships - their insurance, as well as the impossibility of servicing them in international ports," he said. tass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Hun Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 TASS. Going full CCCP, are we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steaky Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 20 hours ago, Si1 said: Dude. Hilarious. Slava Ukraini. "Slava Ukraini" "The chant dates back almost 100 years and has been used by a variety of groups, each using the same call but creating their own responses. The combination that gained popularity during the 2013-14 Euromaidan protests, however, traces back to the 1930s, when it was employed by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukraine Insurgent Army (UPA). These organizations fought for Ukrainian independence before and during World War II, allying with Nazi Germany to achieve this goal and perpetrating atrocities against tens of thousands of Jews and Poles." But go ahead and do your pathetic wee virtue signal if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, steaky said: . Deleted Edited June 21, 2022 by Si1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drat Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, steaky said: "Slava Ukraini" "The chant dates back almost 100 years and has been used by a variety of groups, each using the same call but creating their own responses. The combination that gained popularity during the 2013-14 Euromaidan protests, however, traces back to the 1930s, when it was employed by the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN) and the Ukraine Insurgent Army (UPA). These organizations fought for Ukrainian independence before and during World War II, allying with Nazi Germany to achieve this goal and perpetrating atrocities against tens of thousands of Jews and Poles." But go ahead and do your pathetic wee virtue signal if it makes you feel all warm and fuzzy. "The phrase first appeared at the beginning of the 20th century in different variations, when it became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921.[1] From the 1930s it was used by different Ukrainian nationalist groups, as well as Ukrainian diaspora groups and refugee communities in the West during the Cold War. In the Soviet Union the phrase was forbidden and discredited by Soviet and later Russian authorities. The phrase eventually resurfaced in Ukraine during the country's struggle for independence in connection with the fall of the Soviet Union. Its use was revived again during the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and the Russo-Ukrainian War, during which it became a widespread popular symbol in Ukraine. " I see that discrediting is still occuring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riedquat Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Not been in this thread for ages. Are the same banned people back under different names, spouting the same nonsense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Riedquat said: Not been in this thread for ages. Are the same banned people back under different names, spouting the same nonsense? Dunno. I'm trying my best to get banned tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 3 hours ago, Drat said: "The phrase first appeared at the beginning of the 20th century in different variations, when it became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921.[1] From the 1930s it was used by different Ukrainian nationalist groups, as well as Ukrainian diaspora groups and refugee communities in the West during the Cold War. In the Soviet Union the phrase was forbidden and discredited by Soviet and later Russian authorities. The phrase eventually resurfaced in Ukraine during the country's struggle for independence in connection with the fall of the Soviet Union. Its use was revived again during the 2014 Ukrainian revolution and the Russo-Ukrainian War, during which it became a widespread popular symbol in Ukraine. " I see that discrediting is still occuring It is rather telling that a few posters seem to want to push Nazi era references and the idea of nationalism over there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 minutes ago, Si1 said: Dunno. I'm trying my best to get banned tho Don't give the Mods the extra work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Staffsknot said: Don't give the Mods the extra work Ok dude. Deleted. I get quite riled by some of these Ruskie trolls trying to assert some kind of morality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, Si1 said: Ok dude. Deleted. I get quite riled by some of these Ruskie trolls trying to assert some kind of morality. Yeah they might see it as daring them to do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yelims Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) Russian nazis have completely bogged down now in Ukraine (despite hilarious victory proclamations on previous page here) here is the land changed hands in last month Edited June 21, 2022 by yelims Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blobsy Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, yelims said: Russian nazis have completely bogged down now in Ukraine (despite hilarious victory proclamations on previous page here) here is the land changed hands in last month An ugly situation costing lots of lives on both sides, how long can the west keep supplying weapons before delving in to its own stocks earmarked to defend NATO borders? Is this part of Putin's thinking? Will he capitulate to general mobilisation to break the stalemate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Staffsknot said: Yeah they might see it as daring them to do it Yeah but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Dogsy said: An ugly situation costing lots of lives on both sides, how long can the west keep supplying weapons before delving in to its own stocks earmarked to defend NATO borders? Is this part of Putin's thinking? Will he capitulate to general mobilisation to break the stalemate? I suspect western arms factories are more resilient and productive than Russian ones. Edited June 21, 2022 by Si1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 18 minutes ago, Dogsy said: An ugly situation costing lots of lives on both sides, how long can the west keep supplying weapons before delving in to its own stocks earmarked to defend NATO borders? Is this part of Putin's thinking? Will he capitulate to general mobilisation to break the stalemate? General mobilisation would involve sticking a lot of people with little to no military training in that env, slow things down and invariably backfire. In defense it works as its more bodies in the way. In attack its more bodies to wade through after they get themselves killed doing something stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satsuma Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 4 hours ago, Staffsknot said: General mobilisation would involve sticking a lot of people with little to no military training in that env, slow things down and invariably backfire. In defense it works as its more bodies in the way. In attack its more bodies to wade through after they get themselves killed doing something stupid. Lets face it, PooTin and his criminal gang of robbers will do everything they can to take more ground, this is because they live in an alternative reality where they think the west is weak and they also see Ukraine as ripe for the picking. He could go for conscription which would send the last fighting age men their graves at the hands of the Ukrainian superior will to win. In the end this is the mistake PoTin made, a man faced with his own torture and the slow rape of his female relatives has a new reality and god to face, that man will fight to the end and spend all his waking time, and his dreams considering how his enemy can be dispatched. A conscript on the other hand hopes he can keep his craven head low and kill time until the end of the illegal invasion that he knows he does not care about. For the simple minded trolls this is like when you were told don't approach a mother with a new baby, pup, calf or lamb, they are likely to attack to protect their own. Night night trolls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 23 hours ago, Peter Hun said: TASS. Going full CCCP, are we? Are Ukraine laid mines in the Black Sea one of the worst obstacles to shipping grain from Odessa, ... "YES or NO"? I know it contradict with your agenda and your strong believe, but tell me what is not accurate? Ukrainian mines hinder shipping of grain from Odessa According to Mevlut Cavusoglu, floating naval mines Ukraine has laid in the Black Sea are one of the worst obstacles to shipping grain from Odessa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 18 hours ago, Staffsknot said: Don't give the Mods the extra work Pay no attention to @Si1 he's just trolling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 9 hours ago, satsuma said: Lets face it, PooTin and his criminal gang of robbers will do everything they can to take more ground, this is because they live in an alternative reality where they think the west is weak and they also see Ukraine as ripe for the picking. He could go for conscription which would send the last fighting age men their graves at the hands of the Ukrainian superior will to win. In the end this is the mistake PoTin made, a man faced with his own torture and the slow rape of his female relatives has a new reality and god to face, that man will fight to the end and spend all his waking time, and his dreams considering how his enemy can be dispatched. A conscript on the other hand hopes he can keep his craven head low and kill time until the end of the illegal invasion that he knows he does not care about. For the simple minded trolls this is like when you were told don't approach a mother with a new baby, pup, calf or lamb, they are likely to attack to protect their own. Night night trolls. Why are you hoaxing with figments of your imagination? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 14 minutes ago, rollover said: Pay no attention to @Si1 he's just trolling. Oh Mishka you've broken my heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si1 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 17 minutes ago, rollover said: Are Ukraine laid mines in the Black Sea one of the worst obstacles to shipping grain from Odessa, ... "YES or NO"? I know it contradict with your agenda and your strong believe, but tell me what is not accurate? Ukrainian mines hinder shipping of grain from Odessa According to Mevlut Cavusoglu, floating naval mines Ukraine has laid in the Black Sea are one of the worst obstacles to shipping grain from Odessa. Mishka, quite, but maybe if Russia's navy would go away then it would be short order for some UN led military ships to clear the mines up, don't you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staffsknot Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, rollover said: Pay no attention to @Si1 he's just trolling. Jesus you are playing the irony card today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollover Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 2 minutes ago, Staffsknot said: Jesus you are playing the irony card today. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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