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1 hour ago, PeanutButter said:

If you own a vehicle(s) would you mind posting what age and fuel type it is? And if it's a cash buy or PCP.

We're in the process of starting to look at a new one (petrol golf over 10 years old).

Golf GTE plug in hybrid bought three years ago MK 7, £20k worth about £13k now five years old , £40 fill up record 2000 miles. MK 8 out now slightly better pure electric range say 35 as opposed to 27ish no noticeable degradation in battery yet. They say the one to have is the facelift 7.5 the mk 8 is a bit flimsy inside 

Pre owned VW’s have 2 year minimum warranty which you can add to

pcp? This one was cash but if rate low you often get a better deal on the car with finance and pay off within 14 days cooling off, and you can do better things with the money 

Servicing cheap as chips even at dealer averaging £160 a year 

Porsche 911 (991) 3.8 2013 bought for £42k in March worth late 40’s now (last of the naturally aspirated 911’s) But I guess you are thinking more of a mainstream car :)

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5 minutes ago, GregBowman said:

Porsche 911 (991) 3.8 2013 bought for £42k in March worth late 40’s now (last of the naturally aspirated 911’s) But I guess you are thinking more of a mainstream car :)

Yeah, our sportscar days are long past. Now I'm after comfort and reliability. 

Don't have a driveway, so electric charging will be annoying. I'm assuming the council will convert a lamp post for us. 

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5 minutes ago, GregBowman said:

Porsche 911 (991) 3.8 2013 bought for £42k in March worth late 40’s now (last of the naturally aspirated 911’s) But I guess you are thinking more of a mainstream car :)

Yeah, our sportscar days are long past. Now I'm after comfort and reliability. 

Don't have a driveway, so electric charging will be annoying. I'm assuming the council will convert a lamp post for us. 

 

18 minutes ago, byron78 said:

Next thing I get will be a Tesla. Not an environmental choice, they just look fun!

 

They're the second most popular electric around here, after that little BMW. 

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Second hand Astra, 12 years old, petrol. Bought it for cash. Intend to hang on to it for as long as possible (can't stand electronics-filled modern cars, which is a pity because I'd quite like an electric car but any half-decent one is also a modern electronics-filled car).

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5 minutes ago, PeanutButter said:

Yeah, our sportscar days are long past. Now I'm after comfort and reliability. 

Don't have a driveway, so electric charging will be annoying. I'm assuming the council will convert a lamp post for us. 

 

They're the second most popular electric around here, after that little BMW. 

To be fair the councils are going to have to do something, weirdly the lack of charging points affects hybrids more than full EV’s since your not going to bother going somewhere to top it up for 30 miles range 

Surprised @markyhisnt all over this 😉

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8 minutes ago, Riedquat said:

Second hand Astra, 12 years old, petrol. Bought it for cash. Intend to hang on to it for as long as possible (can't stand electronics-filled modern cars, which is a pity because I'd quite like an electric car but any half-decent one is also a modern electronics-filled car).

Was it here I read someone complaining about the Tesla glovebox? 

 

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Peugeot 207, 2006, bought new on PCP but paid off and 232,000 miles later that's all long forgotten. Petrol 1.4, 

Peugeot 406 3.0 V6 petrol, 2002, cash, cost the same as about four months average PCP.

 

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6 minutes ago, GregBowman said:

To be fair the councils are going to have to do something, weirdly the lack of charging points affects hybrids more than full EV’s since your not going to bother going somewhere to top it up for 30 miles range 

Surprised @markyhisnt all over this 😉

Just got back from a new forest mini break last night, was on the naughty step with zero posts allowed, they have now moved me up to moderator approval, guess they are missing controversial content big time! 

We have a 2018 Nissan Leaf 40kw on lease until March 2022 @ £400 pcm (25k miles p/a) and a fully paid 2012 Chevy Volt EREV , 115k miles , bought for £17k loan in 2014 and finished the loan last November, running it is money for old rope now.  Took both the the new forest 220 mile round trip, fully charging the Volt using the campsite leccy via 3 pin EVSE over 8 hrs every night gave use an average MPG of 75 for the trip combined leccy and petrol use. 

Also have a SORN 2008 Honda Civic 2.2 CDTI ES on the drive, which has now not lost a penny in value since the Nissan Arrived in 2018. 

When the Nissan goes we are in the market for a Tesla model Y LR with performance upgrade in 2022/23 , whenever they bring it for sale over here. That will be financed on a 10 year secured loan backed by my £500k+ of Crypto wealth. If no Tesla Model Y by next April will put the Honda back on the road until the Tesla arrives. 

 

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32 minutes ago, markyh said:

Just got back from a new forest mini break last night, was on the naughty step with zero posts allowed, they have now moved me up to moderator approval, guess they are missing controversial content big time! 

We have a 2018 Nissan Leaf 40kw on lease until March 2022 @ £400 pcm (25k miles p/a) and a fully paid 2012 Chevy Volt EREV , 115k miles , bought for £17k loan in 2014 and finished the loan last November, running it is money for old rope now.  Took both the the new forest 220 mile round trip, fully charging the Volt using the campsite leccy via 3 pin EVSE over 8 hrs every night gave use an average MPG of 75 for the trip combined leccy and petrol use. 

Also have a SORN 2008 Honda Civic 2.2 CDTI ES on the drive, which has now not lost a penny in value since the Nissan Arrived in 2018. 

When the Nissan goes we are in the market for a Tesla model Y LR with performance upgrade in 2022/23 , whenever they bring it for sale over here. That will be financed on a 10 year secured loan backed by my £500k+ of Crypto wealth. If no Tesla Model Y by next April will put the Honda back on the road until the Tesla arrives. 

 

Good to see you back fella ! like the Tesla plan, The chevy Volt was also the Vauxhall Ampera wasn't it ? thought it didnt get the credit it deserved

 

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11 minutes ago, Patfig said:

20 year old Toyota had it 12 years just keeps on passing the damned MOT cost me £2900, will run it till it dies.

Similar, low mileage, high miles per gallon of petrol, low tax and pre-used that was pre-loved and is still.....maintenance costs are very little.....trying to save the planet by recycling well made and long lasting cars, the right to repair.....never bought a new one.....scrappage was such a waste removing perfectly good well made and reliable cars from the road.;)

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2 minutes ago, 2buyornot2buy said:

Bought a new VW ID4 BEV recently. Just waiting on the delivery. Looks like 18 weeks. Will take the PCP to secure the 4k discount and pay it off a few days after delivery. 

Be interested what you think of it. 3 ID3s on my street now, but despite having a golf it sticks in my craw to give V “emissions scandal” W my money now, just a hugely corrupt company imo. 

 

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2 minutes ago, PeanutButter said:

Be interested what you think of it. 3 ID3s on my street now, but despite having a golf it sticks in my craw to give V “emissions scandal” W my money now, just a hugely corrupt company imo. 

 

It's for the OH but the dealership was kind enough to give a demonstrator for a long weekend. Not the model we went for but same battery. I have to say I was very impressed. It was a toss-up between it, the Q4 etron and the Enyaq. All very good cars in their own right. OH wanted the ID4. 

Agree emissions gate was a disaster but VW seem to be the only company really going for EV choice at the minute. 

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38 minutes ago, GregBowman said:

Good to see you back fella ! like the Tesla plan, The chevy Volt was also the Vauxhall Ampera wasn't it ? thought it didnt get the credit it deserved

 

Same car, different badges and bumpers. Both RHD made on the same USA production line, but the Vauxhall Version imported badgeless and bumperless and those bits were added in the UK. Mechanic's 100% identical. Less then 150 RHD Volts in the UK so super rare, and holding it's value like crazy, still worth £6k with zero warranty left and 115k miles, £34k new, only paid £17k with 14k miles in 2014.  Congestion charge free and ULEZ compliant too, but we hardly use that. 

As there are 10'000s of LHD Volts in the USA with 99% identical mechanics to UK RHD specialist parts are super cheap to import from the USA with shipping via RockAuto.com or Ebay , and shares basic running gear steering, brakes, suspension with the 2012 Vauxhall Astra, (GM Delta platform?)  

Also, as they fitted a 16kwh battery pack, and only 10kwh is useable, despite being charged and exhausted at least twice a day weekdays and once weekends, it still has the same 30-40 mile EV range it had from new.  Zero range loss in 115k miles. I worked out not long ago when i self serviced it for the first time out of warranty that the 1.4 petrol engine generator on the Atkinson cycle had only done a max of 25k miles driven out of 105k total. 

Awesome car, totally overengineered and bound to become a valuable future classic in 20 years time. One in the USA did 500k miles and was still going, full 10kwh EV range,  when the owner sold it to a Canadian EV specialist as their loner car. 

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03 Honda CRV, 2l petrol automatic. Has zero depreciation short of whether its scrap value varies from year to year. Remarkably reliable and tough. The VTEC-i engine is silky smooth and powerful even now on 150,000 miles and easily hauls it with me, wife, kids, full to the ceiling with camping kit and a full roofbox up the steep inclines on the M6 north of Preston at 90, I get some funny looks off drivers of company rep cars with my cheeky kids pulling faces at them, wolf in sheep's clothing and all that.

Economy is poor but I only do 5k a year so not a big problem. Interestingly the earlier CRV mk2s 4 speed automatic boxes are much more reliable on high mileage, apparently, than the facelifted 2005 (ish) CRV mk2s that had a newer 5 speed auto box. But the latter get much better fuel economy. 

It's lovely and easy to drive, very stable and predictable, and nippy and responsive, for such a big car, so it makes a handy runabout as well as family load-lugger. Obviously it doesn't hold much street cred. In my wider family it's a bit of a legend. But they don't actually follow the service schedule for their cars 'to save money' and then wonder why they don't last.

The general consensus from online Honda CRV owners groups is that the mk2 especially hit a sweet spot of longevity, reliability and practicality. It does come with a middling big bill every couple of years to keep it on the road now it's so old, but so far it's been much cheaper than replacing it, and besides nothing else would match it for what it does for us. There don't seem to be any major achilles heels that might take it off the road for good. Historically what kills them is transmission problems or rust so I'm careful to mitigate these with appropriate servicing.

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Range Rover Evoque - diesel 2013 - cash (15k) spent about 1.5k making it into a black pack model. Priv reg gets rid of the plate snobs and paintwork is still fab for age. 
 

Drive approx 5k a year, wfh mostly in future and office is 3 miles away.. 

 

Also have a Kawasaki Ninja 636 sport bike so… Go fast. 

 

Plan is to keep it until forced into an electric car.. Charge off solar in day time.. Solar panel lease ends in 6 years and will opt to keep the install. Potentially better RRs electric used prices by then without the s**** gearboxes and other rubbish. 

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4 hours ago, Fromage Frais said:

17 diesel now cash going to get a ev on BCH company car and I don’t want to own one in case of new battery tech over next few years.

There won't be any "new" battery tech over the next few years. There will be a continuing evolution of the current tech but even that will be first used in high value/high profit cars and will take years to trickle down to the high volume cars; so not relevant unless you are thinking of spending over £50k.

The current most likely "new" tech is solid state batteries but, even assuming no more delays, these are not going to be available until 2025 and are probably over ten years away from being put in high volume cars.  

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