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https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2021/jun/15/pfas-makeup-forever-chemicals

PFAS, or per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, are a class of about 9,000 compounds used to make products such as food packaging, clothing and carpeting water and stain resistant. They are often dubbed “forever chemicals” because they do not naturally break down and have been found to accumulate in humans.

The chemicals are linked to cancer, birth defects, liver disease, thyroid disease, decreased immunity, hormone disruption, and a range of other serious health problems.

 

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On 15/06/2021 at 11:31, PeanutButter said:

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2021/jun/15/pfas-makeup-forever-chemicals

PFAS, or per- and polyfluoroalkyl substances, are a class of about 9,000 compounds used to make products such as food packaging, clothing and carpeting water and stain resistant. They are often dubbed “forever chemicals” because they do not naturally break down and have been found to accumulate in humans.

The chemicals are linked to cancer, birth defects, liver disease, thyroid disease, decreased immunity, hormone disruption, and a range of other serious health problems.

 

This is a pretty serious issue and I think people have only just started to wake up to it. It is best to eat organic, unprocessed food, unpackaged food.  If you do buy with packaging, then aim for waxed paper and foil, it is generally better. Carpets/clothing is a bit tougher to avoid.

We have had issue of a similar type in the past with metals, mercury in fish and mad hatters, and lead in petrol and crystal glasses/decanters. Some of the more extreme survivalists in the US also manage to overdose on colloidal silver solutions and develop argyria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria

 

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1 hour ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

This is a pretty serious issue and I think people have only just started to wake up to it. It is best to eat organic, unprocessed food, unpackaged food.  If you do buy with packaging, then aim for waxed paper and foil, it is generally better. Carpets/clothing is a bit tougher to avoid.

We have had issue of a similar type in the past with metals, mercury in fish and mad hatters, and lead in petrol and crystal glasses/decanters. Some of the more extreme survivalists in the US also manage to overdose on colloidal silver solutions and develop argyria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argyria  

I've heard about those RW nutters turning blue. 

Honestly, I just find it too suspicious that every second person seems to have autism, Crohns, asthma, peanut allergy (a million allergies) etc etc these days without there being some underlying environmental factor. This has just popped up:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/01/fibromyalgia-may-be-a-condition-of-the-immune-system-not-the-brain-study

It's too much of a coincidence IMO. They argue it's just better diagnosis but let's compare the stats for auto-immune disorders against the proliferation of plastic usage/advanced chemicals in daily contact. As you say, organic is healthier. 

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2 minutes ago, PeanutButter said:

I've heard about those RW nutters turning blue. 

Honestly, I just find it too suspicious that every second person seems to have autism, Crohns, asthma, peanut allergy (a million allergies) etc etc these days without there being some underlying environmental factor. This has just popped up:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/jul/01/fibromyalgia-may-be-a-condition-of-the-immune-system-not-the-brain-study

It's too much of a coincidence IMO. They argue it's just better diagnosis but let's compare the stats for auto-immune disorders against the proliferation of plastic usage/advanced chemicals in daily contact. As you say, organic is healthier. 

 

I get grief for this first part, but I think we have through medicine saved some of those who would have been deemed less fit for survival by nature, and at the same time poisoned another tranche of the population via industrial chemistry.

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15 hours ago, Mikhail Liebenstein said:

I get grief for this first part, but I think we have through medicine saved some of those who would have been deemed less fit for survival by nature, and at the same time poisoned another tranche of the population via industrial chemistry.

The logic is obvious, but people find it distasteful. We're very separated from death and nature. 

And we have very definitely poisoned many thousands of people, and continue to do so. The petrochemical industries must spend millions of dark money bribing and hushing this all up. I really do pity our future generations, trying to scrape an existence in a toxic, overheated world. 

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2019/04/22/708863848/scientists-dig-into-hard-questions-about-the-fluorinated-pollutants-known-as-pfa?t=1625223847238

In most cases, U.S. chemical regulations do not require that companies prove a chemical is safe before they start selling it. It's up to the EPA to determine whether a substance is unacceptably dangerous and under what circumstances, and typically such analyses begin only after public health concerns are raised.

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39 minutes ago, winkie said:

Glad you liked my recommendation.;)

Ahh, I see that upthread winkie but twas CH4 news that got me to watch it. There is also a film called "A Civil Action" staring John Travolta on a similar subject. Also "Michael Clayton" follows a similar theme, Clooney taking down Swinton is one of my faves of all time.

 

 

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I actually watched a video about what causes cancer recently.  It is mostly smoking and diet.

 

The presenter asked if things like micro plastics had an effect.  The answer from the doctor was, before you start worrying about that, make sure you don't smoke, make sure you are thin (as obesity is a major factor, even being slightly overweight), make sure you eat zero processed foods.  Because those things are a much much bigger risk than anything else.

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On 23/07/2021 at 03:25, reddog said:

I actually watched a video about what causes cancer recently.  It is mostly smoking and diet.

 

The presenter asked if things like micro plastics had an effect.  The answer from the doctor was, before you start worrying about that, make sure you don't smoke, make sure you are thin (as obesity is a major factor, even being slightly overweight), make sure you eat zero processed foods.  Because those things are a much much bigger risk than anything else.

Who was the doctor? (Edit to add that I found The Emperor of All Maladies fascinating and have Mukherjee's next book lined up). 

Microplastics have only been in the news recently, same with PFAs, BPA and so forth. There's been relatively little research done on their impact, so naturally those causes that have decades of proof should be prioritised. I maintain that as evidence slowly accumulates it will become impossible to ignore that these polluters of our air, food, water and bodies are having negative medical impacts that go beyond even cancer. 

And when it comes to our children, should we really be so blasé about the possibilities?

Plastic baby bottles shed millions of microplastics when shaken

Read more: https://www.newscientist.com/article/2257599-plastic-baby-bottles-shed-millions-of-microplastics-when-shaken/#ixzz71XOplTXi

 

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On 23/07/2021 at 03:25, reddog said:

I actually watched a video about what causes cancer recently.  It is mostly smoking and diet.

The presenter asked if things like micro plastics had an effect.  The answer from the doctor was, before you start worrying about that, make sure you don't smoke, make sure you are thin (as obesity is a major factor, even being slightly overweight), make sure you eat zero processed foods.  Because those things are a much much bigger risk than anything else.

Well said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-families/health-news/caution-some-soft-drinks-may-seriously-harm-your-health-6262638.html

https://pursuit.unimelb.edu.au/articles/increased-cancer-risk-from-fizzy-drinks-no-matter-what-size-you-are

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Exclusion Zone water, the 4th state of water, a gel, has a negative charge. https://www.pollacklab.org/research

The bursa in your joints includes Exclusion Zone water. When 2 opposing bursa come together the negative charges repel each other as a contributor to fluid movement. Quality, fresh, oxygenated drinking water is the best.

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