RichM Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 How comes you journos haven't done a big piece on us yet? We are the future, we are the children, yet you've largely ignored our plight - it's not on. We're all drop-dead gorgeous and clever to boot. We've stories of injustice and misery, bills and bankruptcy, war and peace. So come on, send us an e-mail and we'll go in your poxy rag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancypants Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 How comes you journos haven't done a big piece on us yet? We are the future, we are the children, yet you've largely ignored our plight - it's not on. We're all drop-dead gorgeous and clever to boot. We've stories of injustice and misery, bills and bankruptcy, war and peace. So come on, send us an e-mail and we'll go in your poxy rag. I think you over-estimate their imaginative qualities. You are asking sheep to tap-dance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichM Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 I think you over-estimate their imaginative qualities. You are asking sheep to tap-dance. Do you have any Ghanaian connections by the way? I know a few - they're generally a decent bunch though not as good as Nigerians Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beenhearingthisforyears Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 How comes you journos haven't done a big piece on us yet? We are the future, we are the children, yet you've largely ignored our plight - it's not on. We're all drop-dead gorgeous and clever to boot. We've stories of injustice and misery, bills and bankruptcy, war and peace. So come on, send us an e-mail and we'll go in your poxy rag. I know your post was a p$$s take but I am a journalist by trade (I was a style journo whatever the feck that is) - work in related field now. Subjects are raised in meetings all the time - normally the editor has final word and at moment there is too much positive property news around. The newspapers love doom & gloom and sensationalism, if they could substantiate a HPC story it would be out there........... email the news desks of local/national papers and offer your story....be great to see what response you get. and this site would/will be flooded with journos hunting for a story.....that is how many do their research......if IR go up/unemployment up etc you will notice them and get emails from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasket37 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 journos don't care i helpfully sent a link to my local rag from the hbos website showing prices in my locale had fallen by 5% last year! did they print it? did they b0llocks! perhaps it had something to do with the approximately 120 pages of property supplement adverts which thuds onto my doormat every wednesday! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29929BlackTuesday Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 journos don't care i helpfully sent a link to my local rag from the hbos website showing prices in my locale had fallen by 5% last year! did they print it? did they b0llocks! perhaps it had something to do with the approximately 120 pages of property supplement adverts which thuds onto my doormat every wednesday! Right on the money there Gasket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancypants Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Do you have any Ghanaian connections by the way? I know a few - they're generally a decent bunch though not as good as Nigerians Yes I do Sir, I currently live with a family of Ghanaians (well, the mother is - the children are English by birth, including my girlfriend). I will be going at the end of March to watch the eclipse - it will be 'er indoors' first trip too, so it will be a powerful experience for us both, no doubt. I'm impressed by your ability to spell the word too! Although I must take you to task on the comparison with Nigerians - paa Naija kwasia sen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichM Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 Yes I do Sir, I currently live with a family of Ghanaians (well, the mother is - the children are English by birth, including my girlfriend). I will be going at the end of March to watch the eclipse - it will be 'er indoors' first trip too, so it will be a powerful experience for us both, no doubt. I'm impressed by your ability to spell the word too! Although I must take you to task on the comparison with Nigerians - paa Naija kwasia sen. Don't know no "Gee", Yoroba, or the rest. But I will say this - those West Africans like their Anglicanism straight as a line, and I respect em for it. I had a great chat with a Ghanaian Methodist minister who was at our church for a while. Lovely chap. Builds his own house! Nice plot of land, can bump on an extra floor or extension whenever he wants to. Nice chap he was too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieDarker Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Ironically journos should care because they're paid abysmally and probably in a far more difficult position than a lot of the posters here. Ok...you've got your successful columnists who get paid a fair packet butall the news journos would get paid peanuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancypants Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Don't know no "Gee", Yoroba, or the rest. But I will say this - those West Africans like their Anglicanism straight as a line, and I respect em for it. I had a great chat with a Ghanaian Methodist minister who was at our church for a while. Lovely chap. Builds his own house! Nice plot of land, can bump on an extra floor or extension whenever he wants to. Nice chap he was too. That was a little pidgin Twi - merely making generic insulting remarks about Nigerians. Yeah, the first generation West Africans tend to be devout people, but there is another traditionally African strand to their culture which has not always been "eradicated" i.e. the men tend to like to run numerous households shall we say, and the womenfolk remain rather suppressed. Of course, I am painting with a broad brush here, but there are undoutedly a number of issues around cultural displacement which make things difficult for second generation kids growing up in Blighty. The M-in-Law is building a 12bed mansion over there as we speak (well, she's not personally building it, but... you get the drift. Not bad for someone who got repoed in 1998 after 10 years of NE and is currently renting in social housing. I'd move there myself if I wasn't such a wan, pale, malaria-prone fan of Yorkshire puddings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichM Posted February 10, 2006 Author Share Posted February 10, 2006 I'd move there myself if I wasn't such a wan, pale, malaria-prone fan of Yorkshire puddings.I've wondered about going to Africa. I might be able to get a job as a lecturer and my wife is a doctor. Not sure I'd be able to pick up many new languages though back to journos, yeah, given time they'll be round here like flies round sh1t Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saving For a Space Ship Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) The Journos are too busy trying to quietly flog their BTL's before the panic selling avalanche hits. Edited February 10, 2006 by Saving For a Space Ship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancypants Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 I've wondered about going to Africa. I might be able to get a job as a lecturer and my wife is a doctor. Not sure I'd be able to pick up many new languages though back to journos, yeah, given time they'll be round here like flies round sh1t I wouldn't worry too much about that - English (or French, if you are that way inclined) is fairly ubiquitous in the areas likely to provide a livelihood for lecturers. As far as journoes go... yes, we are heroes. Fated only to be recgonised in retrospect, condemned to derision and indifference from allcomers until after the deed is done. We're like Churchill in the wilderness years prior to 1940... mostly inebriated, prone to eccentric acts of shooting miners, but acutely aware of what's coming. No-one wants to know the uncomfortable truth yet, but we will have our time, fear ye not. why would journos be interested in a group of fringe nutters such as us? Things haven't got nearly nasty enough yet. So long as there's more money to be made from selling this illusion of wealth, that's what they'll do. Only when we reach a critical mass of people wondering why the hell they're so skint will they take us more seriously. Sadly, by then, the damage will be done for many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a j Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Yes I do Sir, I currently live with a family of Ghanaians (well, the mother is - the children are English by birth, including my girlfriend). I will be going at the end of March to watch the eclipse - it will be 'er indoors' first trip too, so it will be a powerful experience for us both, no doubt. I'm impressed by your ability to spell the word too! Although I must take you to task on the comparison with Nigerians - paa Naija kwasia sen. Whereabouts in Ghana? I was based there for a while. Fantastic country - no real big bang sight-seeing but a wonderful place to visit and work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuyingBear Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) How comes you journos haven't done a big piece on us yet? We are the future, we are the children, yet you've largely ignored our plight - it's not on. We're all drop-dead gorgeous and clever to boot. We've stories of injustice and misery, bills and bankruptcy, war and peace. So come on, send us an e-mail and we'll go in your poxy rag. The answer is self-evident, if they cared that much then it wouldn't have got to this stage. I had a great chat with a Ghanaian Methodist minister who was at our church for a while. Lovely chap. Builds his own house! Nice plot of land, can bump on an extra floor or extension whenever he wants to. Nice chap he was too. He sounds like this chap It's been built by a person that does not seem to abide by the normal rules of construction in that columns are not vertical and water has to flow uphill to get to drains. 9/10 for effort though It's almost as good as Will Alsop's "work" :- Edited February 10, 2006 by BuyingBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 How comes you journos haven't done a big piece on us yet? We are the future, we are the children, yet you've largely ignored our plight - it's not on. We're all drop-dead gorgeous and clever to boot. We've stories of injustice and misery, bills and bankruptcy, war and peace. So come on, send us an e-mail and we'll go in your poxy rag. Well this is where they are Rich, http://www.newsnow.co.uk/newsfeed/?name=Property+%28UK%29 try to find some dissenting voices, you`ll struggle, there`s only one or two. That`s the weight and volume you have to deal with on a daily basis. Just look at what those useless turds over on the Belfast Telegraph achieved with their utter nonsense this afternoon :angry: I mean, how to fix banisters and put up shelves like a professional... Want a big story? How about a major title, possibly TV also, agreeing to sponsor you to go on the Inside Track course and spill the beans and then pulling plug at the last minute due to reasons we can only speculate about. Currently so many have decided we can`t handle the truth, or contrarian views outside of being on permanent message that "house price goes up..hmmm..good thing, like donuts" Here`s a thing, you offer an opportunity to feature articles and thoughts from disenfranchised FTBs and you`re met with a collective shrug of the shoulders and shuffling of feet.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuyingBear Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) Currently so many have decided we can`t handle the truth, or contrarian views outside of being on permanent message that "house price goes up..hmmm..good thing, like donuts" A lot of journalists aren't really journalists, they just rewrite press releases that are spoon fed to them, of late they've also taken to plagiarising web-blogs. At one stage Alistair Campbell used to hand out pre-written stories to lazy journos. Just think of the times when journalists have covered a field that you actually know about, you end up banging your head against the wall because they get the wrong end of the stick, confuse matters or simply don't "get it". When they cover other areas that you have no inside of, are things any different? Edited February 10, 2006 by BuyingBear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tester Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 To get exposure you need the right production company and then a theme for them to work with. The right production company may be found by someone such as the Commissioning Editor of Channel 4 Dispatches: Kevin Sutcliffe. A people oriented theme is required eg. Two reporters in their late 20's go undercover pretending to be First Time Buyers. They encounter problems such as: Being priced out of the market by Buy to Let investors. Link to the favourable tax rules for investors. Lack of properties available: Link to large number of empty properties in the UK. Ridiculous planning laws. Affordability: Secret filming as they see a mortgage advisor who offers them a 130% loan ... interest only of course. Etc Etc .... Dispatches would love it! Anyone fancy writing a proposal to them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuyingBear Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 To get exposure you need the right production company and then a theme for them to work with. The right production company may be found by someone such as the Commissioning Editor of Channel 4 It this the same Channel 4 that broadcasts "Property Ladder", "Location, Location, Location", "Relocation, Relocation, Relocation", "A Place in the Sun" with Amanda "500%" Lamb? Anyone fancy writing a proposal to them? I don't think it's worth wasting the paper, but thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Converted Lurker Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 (edited) To get exposure you need the right production company and then a theme for them to work with. The right production company may be found by someone such as the Commissioning Editor of Channel 4 Dispatches: Kevin Sutcliffe. A people oriented theme is required eg. Two reporters in their late 20's go undercover pretending to be First Time Buyers. They encounter problems such as: Being priced out of the market by Buy to Let investors. Link to the favourable tax rules for investors. Lack of properties available: Link to large number of empty properties in the UK. Ridiculous planning laws. Affordability: Secret filming as they see a mortgage advisor who offers them a 130% loan ... interest only of course. Etc Etc .... Dispatches would love it! Anyone fancy writing a proposal to them? Sorry mate was I being too subtle? I`ve tried it, gate and case closed Edited February 10, 2006 by Converted Lurker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gasket37 Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 Affordability: Secret filming as they see a mortgage advisor who offers them a 130% loan ... interest only of course. that bit has been done before ages ago by the Money Programme on BBC2 someone on this site (apom?) complained to the FSA who weren't interested as the fraud was, believe it or not, "less that £1 million in each case" :angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elizabeth Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 The thing about "news" is it involves dramatic pain. Pain on an individual level at a high volume. Its the curse of the western auteur syndrome! Until the volume of suffering is so high that we see it in dramatic stances or situations that irritate the money makers in the city (eg. the return of mass street sleepers) I don't believe they will pick it up. I reckon even a drop of 10% in a year and they would still be promoting a temporary adjustment and ignoring the mundane little stories of individual pain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
right_freds_dead Posted February 10, 2006 Share Posted February 10, 2006 these 'journos' are probably loaded to the gunnels with inner london btl. they dare now break the market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smell the Fear Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 (edited) Guys, I've got it. Housepricecrash.co.uk THE PODCAST!!!! The Ipod generation must use the weapons we have been given. It is possible to make a simple audio podcast, or even a video podcast. Some of the podcasts out there at the minute are being downloaded by literally millions of people. Any one familiar with this emerging media will be aware of how powerful it could be. It would be extremely cheap and quick to make a high quality 30 minute documentary on the state of the market. There is every possibility it could achieve cult status (as the website has). If you made the subject matter international, the potential audience would be huge. Journos - screw 'em. This is the future. You do not need to play their games to get the message out there. Edited February 11, 2006 by Smell the Fear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backtoparents Posted February 11, 2006 Share Posted February 11, 2006 Smell the Fear. I think your idea is wonderful. beenavoidingthisforyears - what does a style journo do? btp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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