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That really stuck it up Brown :blink:

How long before Labour back benchers start to see Blair as a lame duck leader and start baying for Brown to take over. We could see Brown as leader efore the Summer and then the public will see him for the arrogant incompetent oaf that he is.

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If the recent economic news continues in the same pattern into the summer it is likely that Gordon "miracle economy" Brown may not be handed the keys to No. 10. If Ladbrooks are taking bets on Gordon not making it, a punt might be worth it although the odds may get shorter as time moves on.

I think the DT has the right analysis and are correct to blame Gordon "miracle economy" Brown rather than our dear Tony:

http://portal.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh...xportaltop.html

Mr Brown took personal charge of the Labour campaign for this contest
- caused by the death of Rachel Squire - and the result will be a blow to his prestige as he waits to take over from Tony Blair.
He used to represent parts of the constituency until, following boundary changes, he switched to the neighbouring seat of Kirkcaldy and Cowdenbeath last May.
Mr Brown tried to fight it on his economic record
and on what he claimed were his successes in bringing "jobs and prosperity" to the region.
But hardly had the campaign started when an American computer company announced its closure, throwing 700 people out of work.

The problem for NuLabour is Brown's economic record. Not so much a "miracle" as it is a pear shaped **** up of the first order.

Edited by Realistbear

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I was truely staggered when I heard about the byelection result.

It goes to show that Labour is deeply unpopular with the country as a whole. I don't think it's a massive vote for the LibDems as much as a bloody nose for Labour - the electorate will vote for the party most likely to defeat Labour, whether it's the LD's or the Tories. Blair/Brown/NuLab have exhausted their political capital, and we are not even a year into this term. NuLab is going to look like a lame duck for the next 3 years.

I think the next election will be VERY interesting. The Tories are becoming a real political force again. Labour's vote will crumble, but the electoral system is so heavily tilted in their favour that it will take a landslide for the Tories in terms of total number of votes just to eek out a small majority at the house of commons.

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The Tories have proved to be the most inept opposition for many generations. Why they would be any less inept if elected is beyond me!

1. Leader who doesn´t look like a corpse.

2. Incoming Gordon does.

3. Err, that´s it. Ed

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It goes to show that Labour is deeply unpopular with the country as a whole.

You could be right! Labour's 150 (THAT'S RIGHT - ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY) member majority over the Tories obtained just a few months ago could be eaten away in no time! Dream on.

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Of course if Brown isn't going to be the next PM, hopefully he'll decide to raise rates to bugger up whoever is chosen :).

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brown may lose his seat and not even be an mp at the next election never mind prime minister.

the people of fife will vote labour out ie him, just like theve done in the joining area.

brown better up sticks to a safer labour area and fast

brown may lose his seat and not even be an mp at the next election never mind prime minister.

the people of fife will vote labour out ie him, just like theve done in the joining area.

brown better up sticks to a safer labour area and fast

by the way liberals seem to be getting stronger and stronger in scotland, and scotland has been a very strong labour stronghold since maggie thatcher came to power.

lib dems for number 10 anyone?

on the council tax issue they could do it alone, there idea for the council tax is a very very good and fair one and they will get my vote becuase of it.

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brown may lose his seat and not even be an mp at the next election never mind prime minister.

the people of fife will vote labour out ie him, just like theve done in the joining area.

brown better up sticks to a safer labour area and fast

Or these Constituencies will see "special" economic help, the creation of "schemes" and many more Public Sector jobs created to deliver the largesse.

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The official NuLabour line is that their candidate lost not because of Tony Blair's policies or Gordon's tarnishing "economic miracle" but because:

Transport Secretary Alistair Darling said the government had lost the by-election mainly because of "local issues", such as tolls on the Forth Road Bridge, hospital cutbacks, the state of Dunfermline town centre and job losses at a printer factory.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4699862.stm

In other words, the same issues that cost them the by-election will not apply to seats elsewhere. Looks like Gordon "miracle economy" Brown is still safe in his seat.

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Not in our lifetimes. Or the lifetimes of the major planets.

They don't need an absolute majority in order to hold the balance of power, at least Blair may have been forced to ask parliment before taking the country to war.

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The Tories odds of winning the next time are at about EVENS following the reaction of female voters:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4671052.stm

Cameron 'among 100 sexiest men'

David Cameron was just ahead of singer James Blunt
Russell Crowe may have wowed women film lovers in his Gladiator battle armour but he has lost out to David Cameron in a vote on the world's 100 sexiest men.

However, the tarnishing "economic miracle" aside, quite a few ladies may be attracted to a canny Scot in a kilt! The LibDems bugger about too much to be taken seriously.

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You could see signs of trouble when Brown was travelling up there and doing a u-turn over the tolls on the bridge. Dispite the housing boom, millions of non-jobs, the Lexmark factory closed losing 700 jobs because of rising taxes and low productvity leaving them unable to compete against the phiilipines.

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The Tories odds of winning the next time are at about EVENS following the reaction of female voters:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4671052.stm

Cameron 'among 100 sexiest men'

David Cameron was just ahead of singer James Blunt
Russell Crowe may have wowed women film lovers in his Gladiator battle armour but he has lost out to David Cameron in a vote on the world's 100 sexiest men.

However, the tarnishing "economic miracle" aside, quite a few ladies may be attracted to a canny Scot in a kilt! The LibDems bugger about too much to be taken seriously.

Very bad news for Blair and Brown. It won't take long for the labour MPs fearful of losing their jobs to turn against BOTH these tired has-beens.

Cameron's biggest problem is that the real tories won't buy his wooly compassionate stuff. Once he has to crystalise it into hard policies the gloss will come off him. He want's to carry forward Blair's legacy apparently. But there is no legacy to speak of that is worth carrying forward.

The Lib-dems were a protest vote in Fife. The local issues Nulab were referring to is a red herring since LDs share power with Nulab in Scotland so the Scot Nats would have benefitted if that was true not LDs.

If Lds choose Menzies Campbell you'll have a nice 3 way battle with LDs getting more coverage than under Kennedy and growing support, Tories on the up (heaven forbid) and Nulab on the wain and probably splintering. There is a hell of a lot of hatred bottled up in Labour activists against Nulab. It will be as damaging to them as the Thatcher aftermath was to the Tories.

I hope we get a balanced parliament where the only sensible coalition will be Cameronites with Nulab - they are the same after all. A grand coalition solution as per Germany with liberals, Old Labour and blue Tory all in opposition.

EP

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The Latest from the BBC:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/4699862.stm

Radio 4's Today programme: "I think there will be some questions asked because people will say 'well if Gordon Brown is going to be the prime minister, and he can't hold a traditional Labour seat on his own back doorstep then just how is he going to go down in the leafy glades of Essex or Surrey or places like that?
"This must raise some questions about the succession."

Some interesting question many in Gordon "miracle economy" Brown's party might be asking. Who is Tony grooming for his true successor? Someone distanced enough from Brown's bloat and float policies.

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Cameron's biggest problem is that the real tories won't buy his wooly compassionate stuff.

b0LL0CKS!!!!...THEY WILL DO WHATEVER THEY HAVE TO DO TO:

1)WIN POWER

2)DO 1 AT AT TIME WHEN THEY CAN TAKE ALL THE CREDIT FOR TURNING AROUND THE ECONOMY,WHICH IN FACT HAD PROBABLY TURNED THE CORNER ALREADY.

...SO THAT'S WHY THEY DIDN'T (WANT TO) WIN 2006.......BECAUSE THEY KNEW THEY WOULD GET SHAFTED IN THIS PARLIAMENT.

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