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Tory donors ‘approached to pay for Boris Johnson’s nanny’ - reports

An unidentified Tory MP received a complaint from a supporter who has been asked to pay for a nanny for the one-year-old, according to the Sunday Times.

The donor reportedly told the MP: “I don’t mind paying for leaflets but I resent being asked to pay to literally wipe the prime minister’s baby’s bottom.”

 

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1 hour ago, Bruce Banner said:

I was going to vote LIbDem, Green, or such like, but the Local Tory has trespassed on our property and put his stinking election flyers under our windscreen wipers. Now nothing will do but a full blown Labour vote!

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If you're still seething Nick Abbot has been funny on the current state of affairs this weekend:

https://player.fm/series/nick-abbot-the-whole-show/put-that-child-in-jail

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7 minutes ago, Bruce Banner said:

Only two days to go, I'm looking forward to voting Labour, for the first time in my life, on 6th May.

I spoiled my paper and voted for the independent in the PCC vote.

 

 

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Well, I postal voted, for local councils and police commissioner... first time I spoiled all my papers with "False choice!"

 

 

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On 29/04/2021 at 13:11, dugsbody said:

A party with a realistic chance of winning that guaranteed (100%, no ref) to change our electoral system to something where my vote counts, ie. proportional representation.

If needed, they could offer a referendum on selecting which PR system we use, but no cop outs. As long as they guarantee no FPTP.

 

Don't mean to be rude, but you are trusting in unicorns with PR. 

The problem isn't the voting system. It's the complete lack of probity among politicians. 

One and all they seem to see it as a get rich quick scheme for themselves (and their friends). 

(PR they would see as an opportunity for endless gridlock unless you greased their own palms with silver)

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27 minutes ago, 24gray24 said:

Don't mean to be rude, but you are trusting in unicorns with PR. 

The problem isn't the voting system. It's the complete lack of probity among politicians. 

One and all they seem to see it as a get rich quick scheme for themselves (and their friends). 

(PR they would see as an opportunity for endless gridlock unless you greased their own palms with silver)

But representative democracy requires a certain amount of probity among politicians. This lot don't even resign when caught lying or with their fingers in the till. They need a political system that keeps them honest, and that we do not have.

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1 hour ago, Bruce Banner said:

But representative democracy requires a certain amount of probity among politicians. This lot don't even resign when caught lying or with their fingers in the till. They need a political system that keeps them honest, and that we do not have.

And what that needs is a viable alternative. Sure, there are issues with the voting system but that's not the root cause of the problem with British politics.

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3 hours ago, 24gray24 said:

Don't mean to be rude, but you are trusting in unicorns with PR. 

The problem isn't the voting system. It's the complete lack of probity among politicians. 

One and all they seem to see it as a get rich quick scheme for themselves (and their friends). 

(PR they would see as an opportunity for endless gridlock unless you greased their own palms with silver)

PR may not solve everything but that isn't a reason to not strive for better than what we have.

Arguing that we need perfection or else we should not make change is a logical fallacy.

I don't argue for PR because of some theory or another, or some bias for one over the other. I argue for it because people who live in countries with PR electoral systems are happier with their governments (on average) than FPTP. I want to be happier and feel that my vote counts, which i doesn't right now.

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On 07/05/2021 at 10:35, dugsbody said:

PR may not solve everything but that isn't a reason to not strive for better than what we have.

Arguing that we need perfection or else we should not make change is a logical fallacy.

I don't argue for PR because of some theory or another, or some bias for one over the other. I argue for it because people who live in countries with PR electoral systems are happier with their governments (on average) than FPTP. I want to be happier and feel that my vote counts, which i doesn't right now.

But you're not going to get PR. 

 

 

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3 hours ago, 24gray24 said:

But you're not going to get PR. 

I know, which is why I will not longer participate in our sham democracy. The UK has proven conclusively that it is an unreformable, corrupt, undemocratic mess. Now I'll just selfishly take what I can get and concentrate on being happy in my own circles.

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4 hours ago, dugsbody said:

I know, which is why I will not longer participate in our sham democracy. The UK has proven conclusively that it is an unreformable, corrupt, undemocratic mess. Now I'll just selfishly take what I can get and concentrate on being happy in my own circles.

I did that, it doesn't work. 

I'm moved on to thinking there's too many people that don't vote. And the ones that do vote get things we have to pay for. 

 

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I didn't vote yesterday.  The first time since May 1997 when I first voted for Blair.................................I was 21 back then.

I feel bad about not using my vote, but this is the first time that there was no one that I could lie about/convince myself that I could vote for.

The UK is dead imo.  A hollowed out shell of a once great country currently ran by c**ts that most of the working class think have their backs..........................oh dear...................

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1 hour ago, Social Justice League said:

I didn't vote yesterday.  The first time since May 1997 when I first voted for Blair.................................I was 21 back then.

I feel bad about not using my vote, but this is the first time that there was no one that I could lie about/convince myself that I could vote for.

The UK is dead imo.  A hollowed out shell of a once great country currently ran by c**ts that most of the working class think have their backs..........................oh dear...................

I’d rather you went and spoiled your paper. A none vote will just be classified by the Tory filth as ‘happy with the status quo’. 

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9 hours ago, Social Justice League said:

I didn't vote yesterday.  The first time since May 1997 when I first voted for Blair.................................I was 21 back then.

I feel bad about not using my vote, but this is the first time that there was no one that I could lie about/convince myself that I could vote for.

The UK is dead imo.  A hollowed out shell of a once great country currently ran by c**ts that most of the working class think have their backs..........................oh dear...................

So if its a spoilt paper Vs stay at home choice what to do?  A spoilt paper get counted but not widely reported but a low vs high turn out will maybe get some  discussion as to why.

Would they ever dare offer a none of the above option box? Or would that report what 'they' don't want to hear?

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On 06/05/2021 at 21:09, PeanutButter said:

Wait, what?

It got nerfed early doors under Cameron, but (from what I'm told, and my source is impeccable usually) it's something that came to light in intelligence reports on BoJo when he was London Mayor.

Dave and Boris do not get on, put it that way.

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12 hours ago, Social Justice League said:

The UK is dead imo.  A hollowed out shell of a once great country currently ran by c**ts that most of the working class think have their backs..........................oh dear...................

Has been for some time, although I suspect we'll have very different feelings as to why. Could well be all of them of course.

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13 hours ago, 24gray24 said:

I did that, it doesn't work. 

I'm moved on to thinking there's too many people that don't vote. And the ones that do vote get things we have to pay for. 

 

How doesn't it work? I've checked out, I don't care what party runs the UK. I will make it work for my family. If it runs the country into the ground, so be it, the people got what they wanted and I have the freedom to leave by virtue of being one of those "desirables" who people want to have more privilege to move around the world.

Sorry but the people of this country decided they're ok with corrupt liars and a completely undemocratic system where my vote either doesn't count at all, or counts for less than someone in a different constituency. I will leave them to it.

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3 hours ago, dugsbody said:

How doesn't it work? I've checked out, I don't care what party runs the UK. I will make it work for my family. If it runs the country into the ground, so be it, the people got what they wanted and I have the freedom to leave by virtue of being one of those "desirables" who people want to have more privilege to move around the world.

Sorry but the people of this country decided they're ok with corrupt liars and a completely undemocratic system where my vote either doesn't count at all, or counts for less than someone in a different constituency. I will leave them to it.

I would agree with you for the 43% that voted tory last time and for each individual bexit voter (25% of the living population in 2016) The rest don't deserve the filth we are lumbered with.

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1 hour ago, steve99 said:

I would agree with you for the 43% that voted tory last time and for each individual bexit voter (25% of the living population in 2016) The rest don't deserve the filth we are lumbered with.

No you don't, but Brits are trapped by the corrupt political class. We cannot change the system because they won't allow us to.

It's a ******ing disgrace. And the sheer never of brexiters to tell us the EU was undemocratic.

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10 hours ago, byron78 said:

It got nerfed early doors under Cameron, but (from what I'm told, and my source is impeccable usually) it's something that came to light in intelligence reports on BoJo when he was London Mayor.

Dave and Boris do not get on, put it that way.

2013 - yes, certainly seems as if you're right. What on earth do these women see in him?

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2 hours ago, dugsbody said:

It's a ******ing disgrace. And the sheer never of brexiters to tell us the EU was undemocratic.

And Remainers too, don't forget. There was a short period between 2016 and 2019 where this was quite pronounced.

I might go and rewatch some of that panto actually, lest we forget.

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Widespread political ignorance and illiteracy:

Fred from Hartlepool on LBC saying he voted Conservative because they had given the town 9 foodbanks whereas there were none when LAB were in power.
 

More: WATCH: Voters in Hartlepool say they voted Tory because of NHS and police cuts
https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/news/video-hartlepool-voters-tory-labour-jill-mortimer-268639/

 

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