user not found Posted February 23, 2021 Author Share Posted February 23, 2021 1 hour ago, Freki said: Schadenfreude very much im hoping the landlord doesnt contact me, but i also DO want to see his rage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted February 24, 2021 Share Posted February 24, 2021 17 hours ago, Sausage said: im hoping the landlord doesnt contact me, but i also DO want to see his rage He will 100% go to a paper and cry about "I made a mistake with a deposit and now I'm facing a £13k bill" Please post the inevitable article when he does! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted February 24, 2021 Author Share Posted February 24, 2021 3 hours ago, Locke said: He will 100% go to a paper and cry about "I made a mistake with a deposit and now I'm facing a £13k bill" Please post the inevitable article when he does! he owns a well known eatery in the (small) town ... i suppose any publicity is good publicity! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 week since letters sent... No reply from landlords... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 On 04/03/2021 at 14:07, Sausage said: 1 week since letters sent... No reply from landlords... Any updates? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 12 minutes ago, Locke said: Any updates? 3 week period ends on Friday, but we've agreed an extra week for him due to a family emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiltedjen Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 What happens after the 3 week period? You get your monies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 hours ago, jiltedjen said: What happens after the 3 week period? You get your monies? If we haven't agreed to an out of court settlement, then we start court proceedings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locke Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sausage said: If we haven't agreed to an out of court settlement, then we start court proceedings. What have you proposed in rough terms (10? 20? times the deposit?), if you are able to share? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 8 minutes ago, Locke said: What have you proposed in rough terms (10? 20? times the deposit?), if you are able to share? We didn't ask for a specific amount, but highlighted that the court will order 13 to 39 x deposit as compensation (1-3x per contract). A sensible landlord would offer, say, 20x. A gambler would take it to court and hope the court orders less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiltedjen Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 The Schadenfreude on this thread alone will keep us on HPC fed for a week I guess the landlord will just draw a line under it, take it as a learning experience, and you will walk away with how much? a few grand? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, jiltedjen said: The Schadenfreude on this thread alone will keep us on HPC fed for a week I guess the landlord will just draw a line under it, take it as a learning experience, and you will walk away with how much? a few grand? Between £6 and £20 k after 30% fees. I actually hope it goes to court, as the judge (do they have judges at these courts?) will realise that they failed to protect deposit 13 times. As not a one off error, they could throw the book at them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiltedjen Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Sausage said: Between £6 and £20 k after 30% fees. I actually hope it goes to court, as the judge (do they have judges at these courts?) will realise that they failed to protect deposit 13 times. As not a one off error, they could throw the book at them. i suppose if they have multiple houses rented out without protected deposits, they could really be in the poop. But they could also claim bankruptcy, that's why i wouldn't give them an extra week for a 'family emergency', hide funds etc. what will you do with the monies? towards a house deposit? or rent somewhere cheap for a year, you are 100% sure your next place is not also owned by the same person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, jiltedjen said: i suppose if they have multiple houses rented out without protected deposits, they could really be in the poop. But they could also claim bankruptcy, that's why i wouldn't give them an extra week for a 'family emergency', hide funds etc. what will you do with the monies? towards a house deposit? or rent somewhere cheap for a year, you are 100% sure your next place is not also owned by the same person? we've bought actually ... so plenty of renovations that need funding. e.g. my fence blew down on the weekend, and garage needs replacing. He's selling the house we rented (hence we were evicted), so unless he's up to his eyeballs in debt on that we should be ok. Also he and his wife have fancy cars .... the bailiffs can get those if needs be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiltedjen Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Sausage said: we've bought actually ... so plenty of renovations that need funding. e.g. my fence blew down on the weekend, and garage needs replacing. He's selling the house we rented (hence we were evicted), so unless he's up to his eyeballs in debt on that we should be ok. Also he and his wife have fancy cars .... the bailiffs can get those if needs be. not if they are on finance as they technically don't own them. Good to see a landlord take a bath though! my worry would be a judge being very lenient on them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadebt Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 49 minutes ago, Sausage said: We didn't ask for a specific amount, but highlighted that the court will order 13 to 39 x deposit as compensation (1-3x per contract). A sensible landlord would offer, say, 20x. A gambler would take it to court and hope the court orders less. You sure about this? Accident compensation has a reducer addition effect ie lose one leg would pay out more (per leg) than loosing both legs. This came to me from a specialist lawyer, recounting rather a grisly road accident involving several serious injuries. Don't take legal advice from me on housing law 😄, just thinking about the difference between compensation for your losses and damages for his mistake(s). Also whether a judge would think you had been reasonable in your request to settle out of court? I know enforcement can be lengthy and costly, money and assets can be hidden away. Lots of catering businesses are up to their eyes in debt now ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, jiltedjen said: not if they are on finance as they technically don't own them. yeah alright you bloody killjoy ha ha Edited March 15, 2021 by Sausage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 9 minutes ago, Megadebt said: You sure about this? Accident compensation has a reducer addition effect ie lose one leg would pay out more (per leg) than loosing both legs. This came to me from a specialist lawyer, recounting rather a grisly road accident involving several serious injuries. Don't take legal advice from me on housing law 😄, just thinking about the difference between compensation for your losses and damages for his mistake(s). Also whether a judge would think you had been reasonable in your request to settle out of court? I know enforcement can be lengthy and costly, money and assets can be hidden away. Lots of catering businesses are up to their eyes in debt now ... if we get an offer i will be pragmatic (the typical settlement is 3x for first contract, then 1x for each additional one). If the money needs to be chased my solicitor does that, his fee is 30% of the compensation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 39 minutes ago, jiltedjen said: Good to see a landlord take a bath though! my worry would be a judge being very lenient on them Hopefully we'd get chance to make the judge aware that the landlord evicted us during a pandemic but didn't use s21. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 days to go... then its COOOOOUUUUURRRRTTTTT TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confusion of VIs Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, Sausage said: 6 days to go... then its COOOOOUUUUURRRRTTTTT TIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That was very quick. Do you mean time to serve papers or your actual day in court? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Confusion of VIs said: That was very quick. Do you mean time to serve papers or your actual day in court? serve papers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Megadebt Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 8 minutes ago, Sausage said: serve papers Are the courts still behind with a huge backlog of cases? Even without intentional delaying tactics, just to get to a judgement could be some time away -then there is enforcement... I had something similar, cowboy central heating fitter. In the end I replumbed it in 15mm and 22mm copper and it works properly now (you can't squeeze a 8 kw through 15mm pushfit, basic stuff) The guy was I suspect a serial blagger, and had a lawyer for a mrs with just a mail forwarding adress. Getting a CCJ would have been straighforward, but I'b be pi55ing the wind trying to get it -also he was in a different area and not easy to trace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
user not found Posted March 18, 2021 Author Share Posted March 18, 2021 30 minutes ago, Megadebt said: Are the courts still behind with a huge backlog of cases? Even without intentional delaying tactics, just to get to a judgement could be some time away -then there is enforcement... I had something similar, cowboy central heating fitter. In the end I replumbed it in 15mm and 22mm copper and it works properly now (you can't squeeze a 8 kw through 15mm pushfit, basic stuff) The guy was I suspect a serial blagger, and had a lawyer for a mrs with just a mail forwarding adress. Getting a CCJ would have been straighforward, but I'b be pi55ing the wind trying to get it -also he was in a different area and not easy to trace. I'm not sure to be honest, I'm being led by my solicitor. The landlord has some family issues, which i hope means he will avoid court at all costs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Banner Posted March 18, 2021 Share Posted March 18, 2021 23 minutes ago, Sausage said: I'm not sure to be honest, I'm being led by my solicitor. The landlord has some family issues, which i hope means he will avoid court at all costs. It's likely he's already made his decision and is waiting until the last minute before committing to put his hand in his pocket. Then you play the delaying game.... the cheque's in the post etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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