PropertyMania Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 FT: Coronavirus sparks exodus of foreign-born people from UK More than 1.3m may have left in past 12 months according to research that questions official data https://www.ft.com/content/def33cfe-45c7-4323-bd08-d4fc42051f09 If you don't subscribe, here's the survey it's referring to https://www.escoe.ac.uk/estimating-the-uk-population-during-the-pandemic/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voice of Doom Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just posted this on another thread but it def deserves its own. Hugely significant. Unless they've taken the houses with them, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 This number is not accurate, as I have a friend who deals with businesses near Finsbury Park, who told him lots of illegals Algerians/Moraccans have gone back home as they have come to the conclusion that they cannot make any money in the UK. So it is not just the documented workers the illegals are leaving as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insane Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 8 minutes ago, shlomo said: This number is not accurate, as I have a friend who deals with businesses near Finsbury Park, who told him lots of illegals Algerians/Moraccans have gone back home as they have come to the conclusion that they cannot make any money in the UK. So it is not just the documented workers the illegals are leaving as well. Correct It is impossible to count how many have left if they were never counted on the way in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slawek Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 London population dropped by 8% (700k) alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayward Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 This might be why Morrison's increased hourly rate... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Notting Hell Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Presumably a majority leave this country via air (or rail) where each and every passport is scanned on departure. Why therefore are these figures estimates? While it may be hard to count everyone currently on the island accurately, it should be easy to calculate figures of people arriving and departing (the delta) and in real time. How is it possible for an island nation not to know how many people are here at any given time? I don't believe that this data is not available--someone has it and it is accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, Notting Hell said: Presumably a majority leave this country via air (or rail) where each and every passport is scanned on departure. Why therefore are these figures estimates? While it may be hard to count everyone currently on the island accurately, it should be easy to calculate figures of people arriving and departing (the delta) and in real time. How is it possible for an island nation not to know how many people are here at any given time? I don't believe that this data is not available--someone has it and it is accurate. The powers that be know the number but this information is kept out of the public domain as deep down no one really cares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slawek Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Based on this breakdown it is mainly Inner London. https://www.hometrack.com/uk/insight/rental-market-report/q3-2020-rental-market-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brendan110_0 Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just think about all them HMO's and back garden shed homes laying empty, such a shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, slawek said: Based on this breakdown it is mainly Inner London. https://www.hometrack.com/uk/insight/rental-market-report/q3-2020-rental-market-report/ Lots of Eastern European’s have also left the economy has downsized and they believe they are not wanted We are not the financial sector we used to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, Brendan110_0 said: Just think about all them HMO's and back garden shed homes laying empty, such a shame. People who purchased in the last 5 years will soon be crying Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 1/4 the population of Scotland has left the UK. Let that sink in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, TheCountOfNowhere said: 1/4 the population of Scotland has left the UK. Let that sink in. The number will increase as time progresses, People come here to make money, if they cannot they will not come anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 23 minutes ago, Brendan110_0 said: Just think about all them HMO's and back garden shed homes laying empty, such a shame. There's a lot of HMOs up for sale now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCountOfNowhere Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 24 minutes ago, shlomo said: People who purchased in the last 5 years will soon be crying Its been a bubble since 2004... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 1 minute ago, TheCountOfNowhere said: Its been a bubble since 2004... It will never go back to 2004 prices, the country is not uniform the NE will not go down much, the SE including London will probably go down 20%, the real crash will be in the price of flats some may down 50% but they will have a high service charge, and watch and wait security guards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Have rents actually fallen? I’d like to see some figures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, PeanutButter said: Have rents actually fallen? I’d like to see some figures You only have one BTL so not indicative of word on the street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huggy Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 33 minutes ago, shlomo said: Lots of Eastern European’s have also left the economy has downsized and they believe they are not wanted We are not the financial sector we used to be 1 hour ago, slawek said: London population dropped by 8% (700k) alone. 2 hours ago, PropertyMania said: FT: Coronavirus sparks exodus of foreign-born people from UK More than 1.3m may have left in past 12 months according to research that questions official data https://www.ft.com/content/def33cfe-45c7-4323-bd08-d4fc42051f09 If you don't subscribe, here's the survey it's referring to https://www.escoe.ac.uk/estimating-the-uk-population-during-the-pandemic/ 20 minutes ago, TheCountOfNowhere said: 1/4 the population of Scotland has left the UK. Let that sink in. 33 minutes ago, shlomo said: People who purchased in the last 5 years will soon be crying Maybe Brexit has got a little bit to do with it. Can't give Covid all the credit can we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 Just now, Huggy said: Maybe Brexit has got a little bit to do with it. Can't give Covid all the credit can we? Could be...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeanutButter Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, shlomo said: You only have one BTL so not indicative of word on the street Lol, you sure? Come on, tell us some anecdotes about your friend’s cousin’s dog walker’s HMO. That’s the type of fact I can rely on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longgone Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 a Big A for Atrophy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shlomo Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PeanutButter said: Lol, you sure? Come on, tell us some anecdotes about your friend’s cousin’s dog walker’s HMO. That’s the type of fact I can rely on. I can guarantee you you will receive 15% less rental next year for your one BTL, and the year after it go down another 10% Weird thing is you are a Turkey that voted for xmas, You hate immigrants but without them your rental income will go down, Edited January 14, 2021 by shlomo take to task Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trump Invective Posted January 14, 2021 Report Share Posted January 14, 2021 They'll be back, just didn't want to hang about during the pandemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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