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Maybe Sunak has realised that he has created an even worse situation by doing what he did. Maybe he also realises that he is open to accusations of corruption by being seen to stoke an asset class that he has a lot of money invested in. Wouldn’t normally stop a Tory, but I think he is actually a reasonably decent man. We will see. Fatso might sit on him and make him extend it after all.

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A source added that Mr Sunak has also rejected calls to extend the stamp duty holiday.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9128309/Rishi-Sunak-delay-tax-rises-autumn-end-Stamp-Duty-holiday-March.html

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37 minutes ago, msi said:

The Daily Fail is a Tory focus group.  Just testing the waters.

As for 'decent' Rishi - remember he was brought in because he was a yes-man to BoJo and Cummings as Javid wouldn't take it. 

No, it's not.

Comments are far better for sounding broad UK opinion than any focus group.

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7 hours ago, HovelinHove said:

Maybe Sunak has realised that he has created an even worse situation by doing what he did. Maybe he also realises that he is open to accusations of corruption by being seen to stoke an asset class that he has a lot of money invested in. Wouldn’t normally stop a Tory, but I think he is actually a reasonably decent man. We will see. Fatso might sit on him and make him extend it after all.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9128309/Rishi-Sunak-delay-tax-rises-autumn-end-Stamp-Duty-holiday-March.html

Id thank @housepricemania for calling him a rhick corrupt evil #### on a twice daily basis 😂😂😂😂

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6 minutes ago, spyguy said:

No, it's not.

Comments are far better for sounding broad UK opinion than any focus group.

Are you saying the Daily Fail is a broad sounding board representative of the UK?

 

Put the crack pipe down

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5 minutes ago, msi said:

Are you saying the Daily Fail is a broad sounding board representative of the UK?

 

Put the crack pipe down

Its probably quite useful to government in a "what do the fruitcakes think" straw poll.

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4 minutes ago, msi said:

Are you saying the Daily Fail is a broad sounding board representative of the UK?

 

Put the crack pipe down

The comments are.

It's interesting to see the top rated comments to a lot of articles.

Some might surprise you.

 

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3 minutes ago, spyguy said:

The comments are.

It's interesting to see the top rated comments to a lot of articles.

Some might surprise you.

 

Why would we bother to look though? The Mail and its commentators have long made themselves untrustworthy to the point of ridicule.

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53 minutes ago, spyguy said:

The comments are.

It's interesting to see the top rated comments to a lot of articles.

Some might surprise you.

 

Can confirm, used this to bet on the election and Brexit lol

When the DM comments bleed into top rated comments on guardian and the BBC then you know 

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The way the gov flip flop and U-turn you could have it on good authority from Rishi himself that he definitely will not extend at 5 minutes to midnight the day before it’s about to get reintroduced and there would still be a 50:50 chance you would be wrong.

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12 hours ago, msi said:

The Daily Fail is a Tory focus group.  Just testing the waters.

As for 'decent' Rishi - remember he was brought in because he was a yes-man to BoJo and Cummings as Javid wouldn't take it. 

Daily mail readers are the Tories prime constituent, as far as vote numbers are concerned. DMail readers will get out of bed and vote if it saves them 1p in tax per year or if it gets benefits removed for the disabled and sick.  These people however are the Tories 'useful idiots' when their real  prime concern are the landed gentry, the mega rich, the city of London and all its dodgy activities and big corps who are natural cronies to hand favours and tax payers money to.

Sunak will be plotting the getting back of everything so far spent on covid, including what they have handed out in super profits to their dody business chums. This will consist of austerity for the poor  and cutbacks in services including the NHS..

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Problem RIshi has is that one day soon he will actually have to act like a Chancellor rather than a sugar daddy and turn the taps off. The shock to many when he starts to say no may be quite profound.

We only have a few weeks to wait anyway - budget on  3 March. 

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I think the odds are very much in favour of him extending. 

he wants to keep the panic buyers on a constant feeling of panic, that they have to buy now! At any means! Even if it means paying over the odds (more than they save) 

I’m not sure why he wouldn’t extend it, unless his game plan is to re-introduce it for say 2 months, then remove it again for a few months, just to really gas the panic buying. perhaps that’s more sensible as the obvious route is to extend the holiday, but if everyone is banking on that, it could mean he losses his required panic buyers. 

Unless he’s worried all the fresh money will just go into property, and instead he wants to start directing it to shares instead. 

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8 hours ago, steve99 said:

Sunak will be plotting the getting back of everything so far spent on covid, including what they have handed out in super profits to their dody business chums. This will consist of austerity for the poor  and cutbacks in services including the NHS..

It does have to be recovered, the question is how. He'll probably be working with the unelected bureaucrat Daniel Hannan on it, but austerity and I expect more NHS charges are likely, and loss of rights to various rights that would cost mlmry. Tax relief on saving for a pension, more reduction in future pension benefits (triple lock, age limits, contribution limit). We've already had rising pension age and a not flat rate flat rate with higher contributions in the last round of austerity. Most of it won't directly affect DM readers although their adult children may be annoyed. 

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The Mail is a mixed bag in terms of reporting and those who never read it and use generalisations to smear all those who visit the site are very ignorant of not only the broad range of views but also its power. It is very popular in the UK because it is free. It is also one of the few sites that represents the center right viewpoint that has dominated UK politics pretty much forever. People here and on the Guardian seem to forget that outside of London and Brighton, most people are small c conservative and detest the BBC/Guardian type thinking. The Mail has writers who are dead center, and those who on the right, like Peter Hitchens. Their editor in chief is very much of the center. If you never visit the Mail, then you you will never understand what other people are thinking. There is lots of tabloid trash stories, but some reasonable analysis as well. It is the lower middle class yardstick of public opinion, just like the Sun/mirror are working class, and the Telegraph/Times/Guardian are middle class yardsticks. 

I look at most newspaper websites....subscribe to the Telegraph, but visit the BBC, Guardian and Mail. That way you get a better viewpoint. The comments sections are often the best bits, especially the Daily Telegraph, and I would be very surprised if senior Tory politicians didn’t have underlings reporting back on the most up liked comments on some articles. It is, as others have pointed out, a cheap way of doing focus groups.

 

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22 hours ago, HovelinHove said:

Maybe Sunak has realised that he has created an even worse situation by doing what he did. Maybe he also realises that he is open to accusations of corruption by being seen to stoke an asset class that he has a lot of money invested in. Wouldn’t normally stop a Tory, but I think he is actually a reasonably decent man. We will see. Fatso might sit on him and make him extend it after all.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9128309/Rishi-Sunak-delay-tax-rises-autumn-end-Stamp-Duty-holiday-March.html

He needs to stop furlough to help things return to reality.

 

Speculative asset purchases would calm down, and people would realise they can't spend the rest of their lives at home watching Netflix.

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24 minutes ago, HovelinHove said:

outside of London and Brighton, most people are small c conservative and detest the BBC/Guardian type thinking.

You need to get out more if you think that. There are significant enclaves of BBC (which many complain is right wing now, so I'm not sure what you are saying) and Guardian reading people all over, even in 'the North', and you are discounting an entire country, a Scotland. 

24 minutes ago, HovelinHove said:

The Mail has writers who are dead center, and those who on the right, like Peter Hitchens.

Over all it is very significantly right of centre (that's how we spell if here, by the way). 

24 minutes ago, HovelinHove said:

. The comments sections are often the best bits,

If you like to read ill-informed and easily disproved nonsense, yes. 

24 minutes ago, HovelinHove said:

 

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Sunak's splurge is the equivalent of putting the patient on a ventilator - supplimental support that is paid back from the economic acivity saved.

We know that is a cr*ck of BS - how many jobs will go redundancy the day after furlough?.  How many companies will go when the money runs out?  How many companies will be forced under when banks start taking on too may losses?

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