Warlord Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 more government stimulus so not surprising to see Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Si1 Posted January 5 Author Report Share Posted January 5  more government stimulus so not surprising to see Well yeah. Also perhaps, with lockdown, a view to covid being solved. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
andrewwk Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 ftse100 has a contingent of companies with large overseas earnings so is not really a local economy bellwether. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Warlord Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  ftse100 has a contingent of companies with large overseas earnings so is not really a local economy bellwether. How is the 250 ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
captainb Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  ? Whats actually changed?? If you were most affected like a pub chain you have been shut for weeks anyway.. So expectation was March? No change. Other end of the scale if you are Tesco nothing has changed in the restrictions. I'm not surprised markets are flattish.. This was all expected I would have thought. Or at least has been signposted for weeks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Patfig Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Must be Rishis new money spaff Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GeneCernan Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Doesn't surprise me. Businesses are still doing business, people are still going to work. Stuff is getting made, people still consume. Lockdowns, as far as I can tell, are really just about a cessation of the leisure industry, and the closure of schools. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Roman Roady Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 FTSE isnt the economy...but still a surprise until Sunak released the news that this lot seemed to already know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richmondtw Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  Doesn't surprise me. Businesses are still doing business, people are still going to work. Stuff is getting made, people still consume. Lockdowns, as far as I can tell, are really just about a cessation of the leisure industry, and the closure of schools. Yes - I am as busy as fk  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottbeard Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  Whats actually changed?? If you were most affected like a pub chain you have been shut for weeks anyway.. So expectation was March? No change. Other end of the scale if you are Tesco nothing has changed in the restrictions. I'm not surprised markets are flattish.. This was all expected I would have thought. Or at least has been signposted for weeks. Exactly. The fact that Boris was making an announcement was known before markets closed yesterday, and the fact it was a new lockdown surprised no-one. Nothing significant has happened since 4pm yesterday to move markets significantly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheCountOfNowhere Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Â ? NS&I IRs are 0. Savings rates are 0. People are selling their BTLs. Where do you think the money is going to go ? Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Hun Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  Well yeah. Also perhaps, with lockdown, a view to covid being solved. Yes, share prices tend to look to the year ahead. The vaccine rollout is far more relevant than the latest lockdown. If the shares I buy today will be worth 50% more in 6 months, plus a 8% dividend is incoming, then why not? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Hun Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  I'm not surprised markets are flattish.. This was all expected I would have thought. Or at least has been signposted for weeks. Most of the affected companies fell 5-8% yesterday. What hid it in the FTSE100 was a takeover bid rising two companies 30% and 10%. Commodities also went up, 'cos China is fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zugzwang Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Â FTSE isnt the economy...but still a surprise until Sunak released the news that this lot seemed to already know. Richey tipped off his old mates at Goldmans and the rest of the market took a lead from them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markyh Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  NS&I IRs are 0. Savings rates are 0. People are selling their BTLs. Where do you think the money is going to go ?  BITCOIN...................................................................****** Yeah. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longgone Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Â NS&I IRs are 0. Savings rates are 0. People are selling their BTLs. Where do you think the money is going to go ? Â some place where they can rob it from soon after ? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wighty Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Look at the FTSE100 risers and fallers over the past year. https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-market-summary/ftse-100/performance?column=date_1y&order=asc Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scottbeard Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  Look at the FTSE100 risers and fallers over the past year. https://www.hl.co.uk/shares/stock-market-summary/ftse-100/performance?column=date_1y&order=asc Very interesting! Ocado +87%, Airlines -66% Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddog Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 I think the £ dropped vs $, due to Boris's economic vandalism.  Thus making internationally focused firms more attractive.  But yes, this feels like peak madness...but no doubt it can get worse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wighty Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  Very interesting! Ocado +87%, Airlines -66% The FTSE's are about the only major indices not to have gained in the past year.  Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheCountOfNowhere Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5 Â some place where they can rob it from soon after ? Of course. Take your pick. Â Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markyh Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  Very interesting! Ocado +87%, Airlines -66% Nobody uses Airlines, like Bitcoin, they have no intrinsic value, obviously. 😆 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
longgone Posted January 5 Report Share Posted January 5  Of course. Take your pick.   i would invest in cladded flats at their current value of 0 but have trouble finding anyone to sell for 0 to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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