Mikhail Liebenstein Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 So no only has Government been infiltrated by Russian Donors, looks like our firms secrets are being sent to China by loyal communists. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9046783/Leaked-files-expose-mass-infiltration-UK-firms-Chinese-Communist-Party.html So much for a trade deal with China!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Si1 Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 "While there is no evidence that anyone on the party membership list has spied for China – and many sign up simply to boost their career prospects" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.steve Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 So much for a trade deal with China!! Absence of a trade deal with China does not seem to have impaired trade with China to date. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 It is true, but all countries do it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
debtlessmanc Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 So no only has Government been infiltrated by Russian Donors, looks like our firms secrets are being sent to China by loyal communists. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9046783/Leaked-files-expose-mass-infiltration-UK-firms-Chinese-Communist-Party.html So much for a trade deal with China!! What we need is to import say 600,000 ethnic chinese counter revolutionaries, now where would we get those from? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zugzwang Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 What we need is to import say 600,000 ethnic chinese counter revolutionaries, now where would we get those from? Only if you want another decade of house price inflation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.steve Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 What we need is to import say 600,000 ethnic chinese counter revolutionaries, now where would we get those from? Don't forget: we need them to have experience in finance - it is imperative that the know how to establish gargantuan lines of credit for themselves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arpeggio Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) 5 minute Sky News video commentary here.... https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6215946537001 Apparently this is the list, although it's in Chinese..... https://gitlab.com/shanghai-ccp-member-db/shanghai-ccp-member-db/-/tree/master Edited December 13, 2020 by Arpeggio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Odysseus Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Could a company legitimately not employ Chinese people on this basis or would that contravene equality legislation? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
debtlessmanc Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Could a company legitimately not employ Chinese people on this basis or would that contravene equality legislation? In academia, i have never known discremination against chinese people in favour of europeans. They are viewed as an asset (if they have the right experience), even if their spoken english is difficult to understand. We do get complaints that the students cannot understand them sometimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arpeggio Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Under the terms of the Foreign Investment Protection Act, Chinese security forces can be stationed on Canadian soil to protect vital Chinese investments, without the knowledge or consent of local authorities. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 In academia, i have never known discremination against chinese people in favour of europeans. They are viewed as an asset (if they have the right experience), even if their spoken english is difficult to understand. We do get complaints that the students cannot understand them sometimes. Which groups is viewed as best in the research area? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Under the terms of the Foreign Investment Protection Act, Chinese security forces can be stationed on Canadian soil to protect vital Chinese investments, without the knowledge or consent of local authorities. Linky Quote Link to post Share on other sites
debtlessmanc Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Which groups is viewed as best in the research area? engineering of one kind or another, but they have contacts back home and are great for recruitment, that is the main issue. We have postgraduate taught courses that are ar 95% chinese students and a chinese lecturer, we presume they are taughti in english! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 engineering of one kind or another, but they have contacts back home and are great for recruitment, that is the main issue. We have postgraduate taught courses that are ar 95% chinese students and a chinese lecturer, we presume they are taughti in english! They are highly intelligent, I have compared Aristotle, Socrates, Galileo V Confucius, Sun Zu, Mencius and find the Chinese to have a gentle philosophy. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53544505 You are fully aware the CCP have lots of files on you, and they may already be offering you consulting work to make the great leap, they will offer you money and women and boys whatever takes your fancy. They value what you know.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anonguest Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 What we need is to import say 600,000 ethnic chinese counter revolutionaries, now where would we get those from? The problem would be that you would inevitably be unable to 'screen' all (any?) of them adequately and vast numbers of pro-communist chinese would be allowed in. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anonguest Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Could a company legitimately not employ Chinese people on this basis or would that contravene equality legislation? IF i was an employer and had intellectual property to protect I too would likely not take the risk of employing chinese applicants - the equality law, howver well intentioned, that prohibits discrimination on grounds of nationality can go to hell. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arpeggio Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) Linky https://republicofmining.com/2020/11/30/retired-general-urges-rejection-of-chinese-takeover-of-arctic-gold-mine-by-robert-fife-and-steven-chase-globe-and-mail-november-30-2020/ (original article is PPV) https://www.rebelnews.com/the_china_files https://exonews.org/tag/foreign-investment-protection-act/ You are fully aware the CCP have lots of files on you, and they may already be offering you consulting work to make the great leap, they will offer you money and women and boys whatever takes your fancy. What do you mean? Edited December 13, 2020 by Arpeggio Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 (edited) https://republicofmining.com/2020/11/30/retired-general-urges-rejection-of-chinese-takeover-of-arctic-gold-mine-by-robert-fife-and-steven-chase-globe-and-mail-november-30-2020/ (original article is PPV) https://www.rebelnews.com/the_china_files https://exonews.org/tag/foreign-investment-protection-act/ What do you mean? debtlessmanc knows I think he has just looked in the mirror and realises he is a fully paid up member of the CCP Edited December 13, 2020 by shlomo kkk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arpeggio Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 debtlessmanc knows I was asking you about where you said this... "You are fully aware the CCP have lots of files on you, and they may already be offering you consulting work to make the great leap, they will offer you money and women and boys whatever takes your fancy." engineering of one kind or another, but they have contacts back home and are great for recruitment, that is the main issue. We have postgraduate taught courses that are ar 95% chinese students and a chinese lecturer, we presume they are taughti in english! Apparently you know?! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 I was asking you about where you said this... "You are fully aware the CCP have lots of files on you, and they may already be offering you consulting work to make the great leap, they will offer you money and women and boys whatever takes your fancy." Apparently you know?! https://www.ft.com/content/0a0e62a9-65ba-494c-a7bb-86f5f66d627f https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/world/asia/china-linkedin-spies.html https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/761962531/people-are-looking-at-your-linkedin-profile-they-might-be-chinese-spies?t=1607892576970 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arpeggio Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 IF i was an employer and had intellectual property to protect I too would likely not take the risk of employing chinese applicants - the equality law, howver well intentioned, that prohibits discrimination on grounds of nationality can go to hell. Tricky. Would need some kind of background check. Unless they are on the list of spies. The other half of this are accomplices in the West, such as Eric Swalwell to name one of many. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Arpeggio Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 https://www.ft.com/content/0a0e62a9-65ba-494c-a7bb-86f5f66d627f https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/27/world/asia/china-linkedin-spies.html https://www.npr.org/2019/09/19/761962531/people-are-looking-at-your-linkedin-profile-they-might-be-chinese-spies?t=1607892576970 OK thanks. Yes it takes 2 to tango. I suppose it's money and sexual favour too. The hooker who gave Hunter Biden a Foot job while he smoked crack was good looking. He had an orgy with some Russians in Hollywood too, this isn't stuff I haven't already mentioned in the past. Not making any positive judgements based on looks of course. Ted Bundy was a bit of a smoothy with the ladies after all (unfortunately). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anonguest Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Tricky. Would need some kind of background check. Unless they are on the list of spies. The other half of this are accomplices in the West, such as Eric Swalwell to name one of many. Agreed. you can't do anything about natives acting as 'fifth column' types. But just because you can't realistically keep out 100% of such types doesn't negate the need to do what you can to eliminate risk of theft by chinese directly. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 Agreed. you can't do anything about natives acting as 'fifth column' types. But just because you can't realistically keep out 100% of such types doesn't negate the need to do what you can to eliminate risk of theft by chinese directly. If you have Academics like debtlessmanc getting multi-million pound research contracts from the MOD and then get Chinese students to help with the project, why do then need to bother to spy if we give them everything on a plate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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