PeanutButter Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Anyone seeing this for online stuff? Mostly to do with Christmas, but even simple clothes or supplies I click the link and Sold Out/Out of Stock. Did shops not order enough stock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregBowman Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Anyone seeing this for online stuff? Mostly to do with Christmas, but even simple clothes or supplies I click the link and Sold Out/Out of Stock. Did shops not order enough stock? Stuck in ports been widely reported Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 https://christmasfood.marksandspencer.com/l/view-all-food#intid=gnav_Food_ChristmasFoodtoOrder_ViewallChristmasfoodtoorder https://www.johnlewis.com/john-lewis-partners-plain-kraft-wrapping-paper-10m/turquoise/p4083084 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Stuck in ports been widely reported Turkeys stuck in ports? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Si1 Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Stuck in ports been widely reported There'll be some interesting things going cheap in February then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregBowman Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Turkeys stuck in ports? lol didn't read it well enough.....probably under ordered to conserve cash Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 lol didn't read it well enough.....probably under ordered to conserve cash Check the M&S link - I've never seen this sort of thing this early before. It may have to do with their new Ocado deal, but the same thing has happened with Waitrose, Selfridges. There's no posh Xmas cake to be had (online). I suppose their manufacturing capacities have been hit badly. Reckon cake could be the new bitcoin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GregBowman Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Check the M&S link - I've never seen this sort of thing this early before. It may have to do with their new Ocado deal, but the same thing has happened with Waitrose, Selfridges. There's no posh Xmas cake to be had (online). I suppose their manufacturing capacities have been hit badly. Reckon cake could be the new bitcoin Production capability in food processing plants has been badly hit I hear from a customer. Little bit of Brexit but not much, more that precautions have had to be ramped up (you don't want to be the centre of an outbreak..) The problem is they are semi skilled jobs which just can't get people for easily, so when people catch it or have to isolate your production capacity is really hit - these aren't jobs that can be done on a Zoom call Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 10, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Production capability in food processing plants has been badly hit I hear from a customer. Little bit of Brexit but not much, more that precautions have had to be ramped up (you don't want to be the centre of an outbreak..) The problem is they are semi skilled jobs which just can't get people for easily, so when people catch it or have to isolate your production capacity is really hit - these aren't jobs that can be done on a Zoom call Seems you're right. Probably not enough hands on deck. Doesn't bode well. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nightowl Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 (edited) It might also be explained by people mail ordering stuff rather than getting it from physical shops which arent open but have stock. Ie the demand is the same but can't access the same overall supply as easily. That's said people go mad buying tat before Christmas anyway so a little bit of rationing will do em good😏 Edited December 10, 2020 by nightowl Quote Link to post Share on other sites
danlee74 Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 There'll be some interesting things going cheap in February then. Sadly not houses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shlomo Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 There'll be some interesting things going cheap in February then. I never considered that, thanks i will bear that in mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Locke Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Getting hold of a birthing pool has been frustrating. "Stuck in Folkestone" allegedly. Paid a bit more for one in stock in the end. Loads of second hand baby stuff going on gumtree/ebay otherwise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) Getting hold of a birthing pool has been frustrating. "Stuck in Folkestone" allegedly. Paid a bit more for one in stock in the end. Loads of second hand baby stuff going on gumtree/ebay otherwise. Midwife shortage as well I assume? Cheaper/easier for them to staff hospitals than lose headcount offsite. Edited December 11, 2020 by PeanutButter Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 I'm buying kids presents and stuff is selling out before I get to checkout. Mental. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gruffydd Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Anyone seeing this for online stuff? Mostly to do with Christmas, but even simple clothes or supplies I click the link and Sold Out/Out of Stock. Did shops not order enough stock? There's a huge amount of supply chain disruption driven by Covid and Brexit (stockpiling)... shipping issues, etc. - hitting some lines of stock more than others (some clothing, plastic toys, etc.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gruffydd Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Turkeys stuck in ports? More to do with processing issues (and size issues - smaller gatherings = more demand for small Turkeys). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Locke Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Midwife shortage as well I assume? Cheaper/easier for them to staff hospitals than lose headcount offsite. Thankfully not. I'm not sure it is cheaper or easier to do a hospital birth- they are 5x more likely to result in a cesarean (2%-> 11%) and each of those requires a theatre with like 10 staff in it. Plus the midwives were already trained and available anywho? I get the feeling there is a baby boom going on-lots of people we know getting their first ones or trying for them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LetsBuild Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) I’m getting the feeling we might get a weird recession simply because there is nothing to buy irrespective of the amount of money printed. The real world might be about to give the neo classical economists a good hiding. Edited December 11, 2020 by LetsBuild Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Thankfully not. I'm not sure it is cheaper or easier to do a hospital birth- they are 5x more likely to result in a cesarean (2%-> 11%) and each of those requires a theatre with like 10 staff in it. Plus the midwives were already trained and available anywho? I get the feeling there is a baby boom going on-lots of people we know getting their first ones or trying for them. Yes baby boom for sure. Lockdown boredom. If you need to borrow my paddling pool say the word. Electric pump and everything. Re midwives I read that they’re discouraging home births this year and women are turning to private midwives (£4000!) or free birthing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiltedjen Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 I get the feeling there is a baby boom going on-lots of people we know getting their first ones or trying for them. This is worth a thread of its own. Something similar happen due a particularly cold winter? or a storm or something? Could mean a huge boost to the economy and a huge swing to the left in 18 years time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ucnvpe0 Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 This is worth a thread of its own. Something similar happen due a particularly cold winter? or a storm or something? Could mean a huge boost to the economy and a huge swing to the left in 18 years time. There will be a new boomer generation similar to the post-war period. I am in that group that will be trying for the first one in early 2021. I've heard similar things with people i know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PeanutButter Posted December 11, 2020 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 This is worth a thread of its own. Something similar happen due a particularly cold winter? or a storm or something? Could mean a huge boost to the economy and a huge swing to the left in 18 years time. https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/pregnancy/4003443-Is-there-a-covid19-baby-boom Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msi Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 (edited) This is worth a thread of its own. Something similar happen due a particularly cold winter? or a storm or something? Could mean a huge boost to the economy and a huge swing to the left in 18 years time. There is already a swing to the left happening now. The next 2 GE's will see apx 1/2 the traditional Tory base die off. The middle-aged cohort that would replace them are still renting. Add in the 'woke' generation and the Rabid Right Wing are dead - it's whether Labour want to be centrist or move away to let a new party in. Edited December 11, 2020 by msi Missed 1/2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Locke Posted December 11, 2020 Report Share Posted December 11, 2020 Yes baby boom for sure. Lockdown boredom. If you need to borrow my paddling pool say the word. Electric pump and everything. Re midwives I read that they’re discouraging home births this year and women are turning to private midwives (£4000!) or free birthing. We're planning on 4+, so will get our money's worth I think it must be difficult to get any cash for a "lightly used" birthing pool!! It must depend on area. Here in the South East, they were more than happy to do home births. Other areas, I hear, not so much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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