Saving For a Space Ship Posted December 6, 2020 Report Share Posted December 6, 2020 UK students plan the largest rent strike in 40 years https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/dec/06/we-wont-be-cash-cows-uk-students-plan-the-largest-rent-strike-in-40-years Quote Link to post Share on other sites
highcontrast Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 https://www.lettingagenttoday.co.uk/breaking-news/2020/12/council-hmo-rules-force-agency-to-ban-tenant-from-using-bedroom Appears student scumlord using both downstairs rooms as bedrooms? It's all about profits at the end of the day right lol. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sammersmith Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 UK students plan the largest rent strike in 40 years https://www.theguardian.com/education/2020/dec/06/we-wont-be-cash-cows-uk-students-plan-the-largest-rent-strike-in-40-years I can't read if this is mentioned in the story, but i had a dispute with my uni halls and they pointed me to a section in the tenancy agreement that stated exam grades and coursework marks (and degree award if in final year) would not be released if there were outstanding accommodation debts. Seemed cheeky to link accommodation debts to the awarding of grades. I wonder if these students are threatened with that outcome now there'll be some proper public scrutiny of dodgy uni business practices. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anonguest Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Students striking? Not doing any work? Reminds me of a priceless moment, many many moons ago in central London, on my way back to work with my boss after a pub lunch and walking past the front a well known major college of the University of London. There was a small group of socialist worker types protesting something or another at the entrance. Just as we walked past one of them with a megaphone shouted out "Capitalism isn't working!". To which, without even breaking his stride, my boss turned his head and heckled back "Neither are you!". Oh, the look on that youngsters face. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msi Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Wait till they work out how to do a Tuition Fee Loan Strike. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Si1 Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Wait till they work out how to do a Tuition Fee Loan Strike. I don't think you can. It comes out of their salary. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapori Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 About time Tarquin and Emelia rebelled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orb Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 Students striking? Not doing any work? Reminds me of a priceless moment, many many moons ago in central London, on my way back to work with my boss after a pub lunch and walking past the front a well known major college of the University of London. There was a small group of socialist worker types protesting something or another at the entrance. Just as we walked past one of them with a megaphone shouted out "Capitalism isn't working!". To which, without even breaking his stride, my boss turned his head and heckled back "Neither are you!". Oh, the look on that youngsters face. LOL Ha ha, that made me think of this Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A.steve Posted December 8, 2020 Report Share Posted December 8, 2020 I don't think you can. It comes out of their salary. Simple solution: Never accept a paid job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Buffer Bear Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 Seemed cheeky to link accommodation debts to the awarding of grades. I wonder if these students are threatened with that outcome now there'll be some proper public scrutiny of dodgy uni business practices. I believe this remains the case. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richmondtw Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just as we walked past one of them with a megaphone shouted out "Capitalism isn't working!". To which, without even breaking his stride, my boss turned his head and heckled back "Neither are you!". Oh, the look on that youngsters face. LOL Nice one LOL About time Tarquin and Emelia rebelled. Yes they are entitled to everything they want for free that is what they have been told all their lives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Unmoderated Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 YES YES YES!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy2x3 Posted December 9, 2020 Report Share Posted December 9, 2020 There money making scams are nearly over anyhow. online degrees with zoom exams and lectures and meetings over zoom are the future of education. And you can get that degree from usa or uk or wherever is cheapest. the education scam is about to colapse. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapori Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Nice one LOL Yes they are entitled to everything they want for free that is what they have been told all their lives Well tbf, their parents benefitted from free Uni At the moment, the system allows Boards and Chancellors to gouge and give Landlords fat cheques. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
richmondtw Posted December 10, 2020 Report Share Posted December 10, 2020 Well tbf, their parents benefitted from free Uni The vast majority lf their parents would not have gone to university which was for those were were the most able. In their parents time I think it was about 5% who went from school to university. At the moment, the system allows Boards and Chancellors to gouge and give Landlords fat cheques Yes calling a polytechnic or a college a university and charging £s for kids to go there to study worthless degrees such as sociology or psychology, end up with a 50k debt is a ponzi scheme. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddog Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 There money making scams are nearly over anyhow. online degrees with zoom exams and lectures and meetings over zoom are the future of education. And you can get that degree from usa or uk or wherever is cheapest. the education scam is about to colapse. Yes, I think this will be one of the actual benefits of Covid, the whole "education market", is blown wide open now. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
reddog Posted December 13, 2020 Report Share Posted December 13, 2020 they pointed me to a section in the tenancy agreement that stated exam grades and coursework marks (and degree award if in final year) would not be released if there were outstanding accommodation debts. Seemed cheeky to link accommodation debts to the awarding of grades. I wonder if these students are threatened with that outcome now there'll be some proper public scrutiny of dodgy uni business practices. Was the same at my Uni, no degree if you had any outstanding rent etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapori Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 The vast majority lf their parents would not have gone to university which was for those were were the most able. In their parents time I think it was about 5% who went from school to university. Yes calling a polytechnic or a college a university and charging £s for kids to go there to study worthless degrees such as sociology or psychology, end up with a 50k debt is a ponzi scheme. It's not a polytechnic issue. The redbricks are all in on it. See who and for whom the Student Loan Book was sold and the interest rates hence applied for the recent fee loans. It's so corrupt that a basic decision to hold exams later in the year and delay the start of this intake of Uni students led to the fiasco of grades in the summer. All to appease the money behind fees, rent and universities this september. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
crash-and-burn Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 I was one of the last to get a free University education (and a small grant that covered the cost of my books); if things were then, as they are now, I wouldn't have gone. I think they have good cause to go on rent strike. Over in France the protests and riots at the Universities are pretty monumental. I've heard of cases where students have taken over the buildings, and have kept members of staff hostage for several days, whilst battling with police. One of my friends is a lecturer in one of the big Uni's in the UK, and apparently they're struggling with funding with everything that's been going on, and having to lay off staff. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wighty Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 How many years before they charge fees (with loans available) for compulsory 16-18 year olds education?. Probably ridiculous. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msi Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 How many years before they charge fees (with loans available) for compulsory 16-18 year olds education?. Probably ridiculous. Why stop there? Make all education costed to a loan payable on adulthood. Add in healthcare and you have a neocons wet dream. Half the posters here would support that under the 'why should MY tax support YOUR offspring' trope. Add in Voting rights only when the debt is cleared and you have the Rabid Right in for a century. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tapori Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Why stop there? Make all education costed to a loan payable on adulthood. Add in healthcare and you have a neocons wet dream. Half the posters here would support that under the 'why should MY tax support YOUR offspring' trope. Add in Voting rights only when the debt is cleared and you have the Rabid Right in for a century. I agree. 02 meters soon. Your app will charge you for every breath you take. Every move you make. Wjll be costin' you Quote Link to post Share on other sites
msi Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 I agree. 02 meters soon. Your app will charge you for every breath you take. Every move you make. Wjll be costin' you Pay As You Go Poll Tax Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimmy2x3 Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 (edited) i was one of the tiny few that got away with my student loan and the changed the law because of it. when i finished uni i never made enough to repay the student loan, but i also never bothered filling in the yearly form to get exemption from paying it which actually turned out the right thing to do. due to not earning enough. this resulted in my loan defaulting and the threatening letters to repay it. it continued like this for 6 years at which point the debt became null and void. within this time the got a change in the law to make the student loan like the council tax and no chance of it acting like a normal debt. it was after they enacted this law they were able to then sell of the student loans company. for me i got lucky others after got stung for many many years and some forever. Edited December 14, 2020 by jimmy2x3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jiltedjen Posted December 14, 2020 Report Share Posted December 14, 2020 Students protests have always worked out well, I mean look at China for example. Students have been fecked over badly by the boomers, who got free education and 100% employment they then turned education into a debt industry, conning a high % into worthless degrees and leaving anyone who actually gets a good job from it paying back the money for a huge % of their life. All just because than generation screwed the economy so badly that they needed to mask the massive youth unemployment via uni. I think the inflection point of uni being worth it compare to the debt has been passed on about 70% of subjects now. students should know their place they are just debt conduits, used to shovel government money into landlords pockets, the system is there to feed off them not to support them. same with housing, it never needed to be this expensive, it’s just a method to keep the young in debt chains to support the old. Imagine a world where it was all spelled out, the boomers wouldn’t get gold plated pensions, or obscene house prices, they would have humble lives Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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