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With furlough ending and repayment holidays over, the end of the month is going to be a nightmare for many... Get set for the Halloween horror show

  • Regulators estimate as many as 12m could struggle to pay their bills 
  • Schemes which paid people's wages and covered mortgage payments will end
  • Instead they have been replaced by more individual measures
  • It is crucial that those still in need of help speak to their lenders
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I'm sure all the 'Why help immigrants...charity begins at home' folks will be digging deep to help out

Curious isn’t it. For years we’ve seen endless appeals to help feed starving people around the world, and now we’re told it’s British kids who are going without. 

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Curious isn’t it. For years we’ve seen endless appeals to help feed starving people around the world, and now we’re told it’s British kids who are going without. 

Seeing the same voices now pivot and whining about 'if parents can't afford them then why have kids'... why not just give cyanide pills with redundancy notices?

 

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Seeing the same voices now pivot and whining about 'if parents can't afford them then why have kids'... why not just give cyanide pills with redundancy notices?

 

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Problem is they can’t get away with bringing back workhouses, or can they?🤔

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'Everyone’s got bills to pay': facing up to end of furlough scheme

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/oct/29/everyones-got-bills-to-pay-facing-up-to-end-of-furlough-scheme

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Everyone's broke, partly due to that "help".

Taxation is theft.

Taxation is not theft that is the utter drivel ported out so businesses and wealthy individuals can claim paying a fair share is a bad idea. Forgetting all the roads and services they use that are paid for by said taxation.

Most tax havens are gentrified crapholes where outside of rich enclaves the ordinary citizens live a poorer existence - but those places are also beloved of the same expats who scream 'foreigners go home' in Britain.

Oh and the foreign aid and help for asylum seekers has not bankrupted the country and claiming so is disingenuous at best. You might want to look at PFI agreements, dodgy contracts to chums and constant props to housing and anyone who'd vote for the current gov.

But none of that would fit your narrative of the problem was 'imported'.

You may well have interesting things to say or points to make, but such obvious drivel detracts from any of that as its not even analysis it is personal bias and easily disproved nonsense I would expect from a lesser poster

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Taxation is not theft that is the utter drivel ported out so businesses and wealthy individuals can claim paying a fair share is a bad idea. Forgetting all the roads and services they use that are paid for by said taxation.

Most tax havens are gentrified crapholes where outside of rich enclaves the ordinary citizens live a poorer existence - but those places are also beloved of the same expats who scream 'foreigners go home' in Britain.

Oh and the foreign aid and help for asylum seekers has not bankrupted the country and claiming so is disingenuous at best. You might want to look at PFI agreements, dodgy contracts to chums and constant props to housing and anyone who'd vote for the current gov.

But none of that would fit your narrative of the problem was 'imported'.

You may well have interesting things to say or points to make, but such obvious drivel detracts from any of that as its not even analysis it is personal bias and easily disproved nonsense I would expect from a lesser poster

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Anything that doesn't fit the narrative must be the 'liberal elite' and 'fake news'.  Freedom of speech interpreted to mean equality of speech - my mate Terry down 'spoons knows as much as Professor X on airborne distribution of sub micron viron particles, so you can't believe those 'beardy lefty professors'.

 

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Didn't Sunak change the replacement scheme so that it's cheaper for the employer than furlough currently is?

Isn't the new furlough scheme more targeted to certain industries? (Must admit I am not 100% sure, so it is a genuine question).

 

I think either way, by now employers will be a bit sick of having employees they don't realistically need for the next few years hanging around (even if it is only costing them 10-20%).  I think there could be some redundancies based on people not being needed for the next few years.

 

From my own experience it would be better to decide who my best employee was and give them 100% of the work, rather than use the new furlough scheme, retaining 5 people and giving them 20% of the work each.

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1 hour ago, Staffsknot said:

Taxation is not theft that is the utter drivel ported out so businesses and wealthy individuals can claim paying a fair share is a bad idea. Forgetting all the roads and services they use that are paid for by said taxation.

Most tax havens are gentrified crapholes where outside of rich enclaves the ordinary citizens live a poorer existence - but those places are also beloved of the same expats who scream 'foreigners go home' in Britain.

Oh and the foreign aid and help for asylum seekers has not bankrupted the country and claiming so is disingenuous at best. You might want to look at PFI agreements, dodgy contracts to chums and constant props to housing and anyone who'd vote for the current gov.

But none of that would fit your narrative of the problem was 'imported'.

You may well have interesting things to say or points to make, but such obvious drivel detracts from any of that as its not even analysis it is personal bias and easily disproved nonsense I would expect from a lesser poster

That's quite the reaction. Kind of what I would expect saying to a deeply religious person that forcing your kids to believe is brainwashing.

I don't believe you know anything about my "narrative" other than that I am smart enough to understand how morally speaking, taxation is indistinguishable from theft.

Whether I benefit in some way from it is irrelevant.

 

By the way, corporations (which are a fictitious creation of the government) love being able to get the stuff they need paid for at gunpoint by you. This is why I call people McLeftists and it winds them up so thoroughly. They understand deeply that they are on the side of corporations when they support wokeness.

 

It is so funny to me how you whinge about how the government has failed to create what you consider to be a fair system, then cry hysterically that this shows we need a government to enable a fair system. All of the government is corrupt.

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Everyone's broke, partly due to that "help".

Taxation is theft.

Everyone isn't broke. Those that are have been made so by City of London financiers, hobby landlords, and the grotesque inefficiencies of the free market.

Taxation is a legal mechanism for controlling inflation.

 

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That's quite the reaction. Kind of what I would expect saying to a deeply religious person that forcing your kids to believe is brainwashing.

I don't believe you know anything about my "narrative" other than that I am smart enough to understand how morally speaking, taxation is indistinguishable from theft.

Whether I benefit in some way from it is irrelevant.

 

By the way, corporations (which are a fictitious creation of the government) love being able to get the stuff they need paid for at gunpoint by you. This is why I call people McLeftists and it winds them up so thoroughly. They understand deeply that they are on the side of corporations when they support wokeness.

 

It is so funny to me how you whinge about how the government has failed to create what you consider to be a fair system, then cry hysterically that this shows we need a government to enable a fair system. All of the government is 

You missed a few terms for the bullsh#t bingo - liberal elite, champagne socialist, military industrial complex, United States of Europe, tree-hugger, do-gooder...

Kind of terms someone brainwashed into believing foreigners are to blame for everthing almost like a cult religion might say, to send that back your way. Thought you were better than that or at least a lot more informed / able to do any simple analysis.

I mean you might not be in the realms of paying Nigel Farage cash to go on a rainy walk but you sure sound like you read the pamphlet.

Britain's problems are largely home grown, but yes when the politician says look over here at this thing I want to pin all our problems on go ahead and look, telling yourself you are onto something.

Taxation - part of being in a society of grown-ups. Funny a lot of those foreigners manage that one

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45 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:

believing foreigners are to blame for everthing

Where did I blame foreigners for everything? Some tax money (quite a lot) has been spent on foreign aid, so it is partly to blame for our deficits. Is that the government's fault, or foreigners' fault?

Personally, I also understand that it is evil to forcibly restrict other people's movement when they aren't on your land, so I have no problem, morally speaking, with immigration.

The problem for our government is that if you just give the fruits of taxation to people who have no and have never had any stake in this country, you will quickly run out of resources. I don't believe in taxation, but you do and so you should be the loudest critic of welfare for all and sundry if you want the taxation to continue.

You can have universal welfare, or you can have open borders. You cannot have both, at least not for long.

51 minutes ago, Staffsknot said:

Taxation - part of being in a society of grown-ups. Funny a lot of those foreigners manage that one

Immigrants, statistically speaking, are a massive net drain on the government. They receive far more in government spending than they contribute in taxes.

So no, they don't manage that one.

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Nope wrong again immigrants have been shown to be net contributors. They also staffed our services like the NHS but if you cherry pick your sources to just be asylum seekers then you start to get your net drain figures.

Howeveryou popped out two easily dispellable statements and now are trying to justify them.

In what world is the welfare system and being in favour of taxation two entwinned positions? They aren't.

I do support a fair welfare system and safety net - part of that safety net being necessary to help working people who can't make ends meet, subsidised so Tescos et al can return a higher dividend instead of paying the people a livable wage.

Why do wages need to be so high? Because we get reemed left right and centre on giveaways to nice big businesses, chums who went to Eton and pet projects.

We do not have an open border and never did have. Myth number god knows how many.

If you refer to welfare and 'open borders' as freedom of movement then suggest have a look at Norway, Finland, most of Nordic model countries. They seem to be ok.

We blow more on MoD overspends and dead end projects than we do on any foreign aid.

I'm guessing you are trying to adopt the policy of your namesake from the 1600s - who interestingly did a Bojo and wrote two contrasting major works and only published one. All the Locke of those times was a merchant backer vs the heredity aristocracy. No different than the industrialists vs old style landowners in the industrial revolution era.

I'm sure you tell yourself you are an objective thinker with all these McLeftist jibes at anyone who takes a differing view, but really you are no different to the Emo kid buying his mass produced clothes at Emos R Us, copying the poster on his wall and shouting you're all too stupid I'm an individual. You're copy pasting the same myths as the unthinking, unanalytical minds churn out on Twitter and thought you were more adept at seeing through such things.

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Anything that doesn't fit the narrative must be the 'liberal elite' and 'fake news'.  Freedom of speech interpreted to mean equality of speech - my mate Terry down 'spoons knows as much as Professor X on airborne distribution of sub micron viron particles, so you can't believe those 'beardy lefty professors'.

 

I just can't believe it is 2020 and the myths being spouted as fact.

Open borders, immigrants don't contribute, taxation is theft ( that was from the 1600s and nicked from ideas from Ancient Greece), the list is endless.

It's like all these things haven't been easily debunked over the last few years.

Going to be interesting after Brexit to see who is the new blame whipping boy.

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