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More than 50 Conservative MPs in 'red wall' constituencies are demanding a post-coronavirus economy plan for the north of England and a 'roadmap out of lockdown' from the Prime Minister.  

A letter to Boris Johnson from the Northern Research Group - a newly-launched alliance of Tory MPs led by ex-Northern Powerhouse minister Jake Berry - outlines the group's demands, which include a tailored economic recovery plan for the north. 

Mr Berry says that the virus could widen the North-South divide and 'send the North into reverse'. His group is now calling for Mr Johnson to 'level-up the North' - something the PM claimed he would do following sweeping Conservative gains in the region in the General Election.

The group are urging the Government to prioritise key infrastructure projects and to accelerate job creation in the north. 

It comes as around 8million people in England face living under the toughest Covid-19 restrictions by the end of the week after officials confirmed four separate parts of Nottinghamshire will be thrust into a Tier Three lockdown from midnight on Wednesday, following three days of crunch talks with the Government.

Officials have agreed to adopt the draconian measures in Nottingham City, Gedling, Broxtowe and Rushcliffe in an attempt to drive down transmission. It will mean all pubs and bars have to close unless they serve meals, while people are banned from mixing with anyone they don't live with indoors or in private gardens and beer gardens. 

MPs from the Northern Research Group describe how the region has been hit with harsh local restrictions and local economies will continue to suffer, with many losing their jobs and facing the prospect of closing down their businesses. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8881755/FIFTY-Northern-Tory-MPs-demand-roadmap-lockdown-Boris-Johnson-faces-red-wall-revolt.html

 

Lockdowns DO NOT work!  

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49 minutes ago, Warlord said:

 

Karens will say and believe anything to justify more control and post facto claim they were right.

Facts no longer matter. It doesn't matter that lockdowns have killed more people than CCPV. It doesn't matter that Leftwing leaning parasites forced old people's homes to take CCPV patients.

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We've got a Coronovirus thread, so lets not start the lockdown discussion here.

The hope of the new Blue wall was to moderate some of the rabid right tendencies of the southern Tories, so much for Tory Unity.

Remember Thatcher was destroyed by her own MPs who feared losing their constituencies from the policies of her, and her rabid right clique.  That factionalism let Labour walk in unopposed - can you imagine the damage if a loony left Labour overthrew Starmer and got in?

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We've got a Coronovirus thread, so lets not start the lockdown discussion here.

The hope of the new Blue wall was to moderate some of the rabid right tendencies of the southern Tories, so much for Tory Unity.

Remember Thatcher was destroyed by her own MPs who feared losing their constituencies from the policies of her, and her rabid right clique.  That factionalism let Labour walk in unopposed - can you imagine the damage if a loony left Labour overthrew Starmer and got in?

I thought it was the poll tax that destroyed her.  The book "The blunders of our Governments" had a great chapter on that, sadly the only blunder that destroyed a political career (and it wasn't the worst).

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Remember Thatcher was destroyed by her own MPs who feared losing their constituencies from the policies of her, and her rabid right clique.  That factionalism let Labour walk in unopposed - can you imagine the damage if a loony left Labour overthrew Starmer and got in?

Probably too soon since Corbyn for that to happen.

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This is a fake news. The deaths are actually rising in Sweden 100-200% per two weeks. 

Link? or are you fear mongering? Google citing Wiki say 1 death yesterday , 1 the day before and shows an otherwise flat graph

 

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Link? or are you fear mongering? Google citing Wiki say 1 death yesterday , 1 the day before and shows an otherwise flat graph

 

Those are incomplete data. It takes up to 3 weeks for all death certificates to be registered. 

The latest official report have the latest complete data for the week ending 04/10

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/globalassets/statistik-uppfoljning/smittsamma-sjukdomar/veckorapporter-covid-19/2020/covid-19-veckorapport-vecka-42-final.pdf 

Daily data used by European CDC and worldometer among others. They don't have deaths for the last few days.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Explanation for the daily Sweden data

https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/statistik-och-data/statistik/statistik-om-covid-19/statistik-over-antal-avlidna-i-covid-19/

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Those are incomplete data. It takes up to 3 weeks for all death certificates to be registered. 

The latest official report have the latest complete data for the week ending 04/10

https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se/globalassets/statistik-uppfoljning/smittsamma-sjukdomar/veckorapporter-covid-19/2020/covid-19-veckorapport-vecka-42-final.pdf 

Daily data used by European CDC and worldometer among others. They don't have deaths for the last few days.

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Explanation for the daily Sweden data

https://www.socialstyrelsen.se/statistik-och-data/statistik/statistik-om-covid-19/statistik-over-antal-avlidna-i-covid-19/

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Good stuff, really interesting 

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I thought it was the poll tax that destroyed her.  The book "The blunders of our Governments" had a great chapter on that, sadly the only blunder that destroyed a political career (and it wasn't the worst).

The poll tax brought it to a head. It was too tough a sell for marginal Tory seats that were used to Right to Buy and Tax cut bribes. IIRC, they wanted to water down the poll tax and provide some protections, similar to Tax Credits - but Thatcher was in full Iron Lady mode and wouldn't listen.  Her arrogance was supported by her backers and the Daily Heil.

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Probably too soon since Corbyn for that to happen.

If the Tory New Blue Wall falls and there is widespread discontent with BoJo, then whoever wears a red rosette would get in.  That could trigger a hard left take over - the stuff of nightmares, second only to a UKIP putsch

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If the Tory New Blue Wall falls and there is widespread discontent with BoJo, then whoever wears a red rosette would get in.  That could trigger a hard left take over - the stuff of nightmares, second only to a UKIP putsch

The way for Labour to capitalise on that would be to have a leader with much more broad appeal than the hard left - that'll give them their best chances of breaking the Blue Wall.

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The way for Labour to capitalise on that would be to have a leader with much more broad appeal than the hard left - that'll give them their best chances of breaking the Blue Wall.

It's 4 years away. Pointless even thinking about it. 

Labour is in the wilderness.  Forget them. 

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The group are urging the Government to prioritise key infrastructure projects and to accelerate job creation in the north. 

 

This is not a "revolt", it's a letter to the Prime Minister from MPs promoting their constituents' interests. i.e. completely normal and what MPs are meant to do.

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It's 4 years away. Pointless even thinking about it. 

Labour is in the wilderness.  Forget them. 

This....

 

The Torys may talk the talk of rebellions BUT they will not allow a GE or such like event to happen....they will all fall in line before that happens.

Boris will bail in the Spring, its all been a bit too much for him, poor luv.

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This is not a "revolt", it's a letter to the Prime Minister from MPs promoting their constituents' interests. i.e. completely normal and what MPs are meant to do.

  • Set out a clear roadmap out of lockdown
  • Prioritise accelerating key road, rail and social infrastructure projects and job creation
  • Develop a tailored economic recovery plan for the North

The "rebels'" demands. A revolt akin Americal independence I would say.

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This....

 

The Torys may talk the talk of rebellions BUT they will not allow a GE or such like event to happen....they will all fall in line before that happens.

Boris will bail in the Spring, its all been a bit too much for him, poor luv.

They'll wait until it looks fairly certain Covid-19 is pretty much sorted before changing leader. No-one will want to stand with still having to deal with that. Sorting out the aftermath of it might look rather offputting too, but get the timing right and they'll reap the benefits of the eventual upward tick (basically if it seems to be on the move upwards by the time of the next election, and they've been in long enough to claim credit for the repairs).

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  • Set out a clear roadmap out of lockdown
  • Prioritise accelerating key road, rail and social infrastructure projects and job creation
  • Develop a tailored economic recovery plan for the North

The "rebels'" demands. A revolt akin Americal independence I would say.

Building more crap? That'll lose them my vote next time. If I wanted an ugly, rushed hectic mess I'd move down south. Heaven knows when the last infrastructure project was that didn't make it a more depressing place to live. Easier perhaps (due to a complete failure to do anything other an pander to the underlying causes), quicker perhaps (if you value rushing around like a headless chicken and think cramming more in is a good idea), but always more depressing.

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Bit dishonest, as I presume he knows  that Sweden's neighbours have done and are still doing much better. E.g. Norway has had less than one tenth the number of deaths, less impact on its economy and is still doing far better than Sweden. 

Why is he not promoting Norway's approach?  

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They'll wait until it looks fairly certain Covid-19 is pretty much sorted before changing leader. No-one will want to stand with still having to deal with that. Sorting out the aftermath of it might look rather offputting too, but get the timing right and they'll reap the benefits of the eventual upward tick (basically if it seems to be on the move upwards by the time of the next election, and they've been in long enough to claim credit for the repairs).

There are a lot of chickens that will be coming home to roost before we get to that upward tick.

 

Boris will bail in the Spring, its all been a bit too much for him, poor luv.

So he can carry the can for Covid and Brexit miserable/no deal? Is he really that public spirited? 

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More than 50 Conservative MPs in 'red wall' constituencies are demanding a post-coronavirus economy plan for the north of England and a 'roadmap out of lockdown' from the Prime Minister.  

A letter to Boris Johnson from the Northern Research Group - a newly-launched alliance of Tory MPs led by ex-Northern Powerhouse minister Jake Berry - outlines the group's demands, which include a tailored economic recovery plan for the north. 

Mr Berry says that the virus could widen the North-South divide and 'send the North into reverse'. His group is now calling for Mr Johnson to 'level-up the North' - something the PM claimed he would do following sweeping Conservative gains in the region in the General Election.

The group are urging the Government to prioritise key infrastructure projects and to accelerate job creation in the north. 

It comes as around 8million people in England face living under the toughest Covid-19 restrictions by the end of the week after officials confirmed four separate parts of Nottinghamshire will be thrust into a Tier Three lockdown from midnight on Wednesday, following three days of crunch talks with the Government.

Officials have agreed to adopt the draconian measures in Nottingham City, Gedling, Broxtowe and Rushcliffe in an attempt to drive down transmission. It will mean all pubs and bars have to close unless they serve meals, while people are banned from mixing with anyone they don't live with indoors or in private gardens and beer gardens. 

MPs from the Northern Research Group describe how the region has been hit with harsh local restrictions and local economies will continue to suffer, with many losing their jobs and facing the prospect of closing down their businesses. 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8881755/FIFTY-Northern-Tory-MPs-demand-roadmap-lockdown-Boris-Johnson-faces-red-wall-revolt.html

 

Lockdowns DO NOT work!  

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When you have eliminated the impossible   what ever remains no matter how improbable must be the truth.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/comment/almost-starting-think-whole-pandemic-really-conspiracy/

I'm almost starting to think this whole pandemic really is a conspiracy

Our continuing oppressive response to a virus that almost every human survives is making less and less sense

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20 October 2020 • 4:38pmAnnabel Fenwick Elliott
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The death toll is low, why are we marching into yet another ruinous lockdown? CREDIT: getty
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