Who wins trump or Biden?

[wighty]

If he's impeached then "you aint seen nothing yet" compared to 6th January.

If not he'll think he' gotten away with it and be even worse.

[zugzwang]

1 minute ago, Riedquat said:

The way things are going it looks like enough Republics want shot of Trump and regard him as a liability. Once they're rid of him does he really have enough support (as opposed to the party) to be a kingmaker?

Trumpy will be in and out of court for the rest of his miserable life. The rest of his time will be spent liquidating his assets.

He's finished.

[msi]

12 minutes ago, Riedquat said:

The way things are going it looks like enough Republics want shot of Trump and regard him as a liability. Once they're rid of him does he really have enough support (as opposed to the party) to be a kingmaker?

What he has is a set of vocal bat-sh*t crazy loons that will do anything he hints.  The tea-party was bad enough for the Republicans, but trump will be an ideological gatekeeper.

Note Cruz is already moving to the right and making noises to support Trumps 'Fraud' concerns.

[Riedquat]

11 minutes ago, msi said:

What he has is a set of vocal bat-sh*t crazy loons that will do anything he hints.  The tea-party was bad enough for the Republicans, but trump will be an ideological gatekeeper.

And they're the ones that are in the limelight but he's also presently backed up by what I assume is a much larger bunch of supporters who'll grumble a bit but go along with whatever the mainstream Republican view is, and also quite a lot of Republicans who simply viewed him as the least bad choice because he's not a Democrat. His hardcore followers may be able to stir up trouble but are there really enough of them, that dedicated, to be more than a minor nuisance in the long run?

[msi]

1 minute ago, Riedquat said:

And they're the ones that are in the limelight but he's also presently backed up by what I assume is a much larger bunch of supporters who'll grumble a bit but go along with whatever the mainstream Republican view is, and also quite a lot of Republicans who simply viewed him as the least bad choice because he's not a Democrat. His hardcore followers may be able to stir up trouble but are there really enough of them, that dedicated, to be more than a minor nuisance in the long run?

I see where you coming from, but Trump epitomises the problem with the Republicans (and Western centre right parties in general).  They are really to support the ultra rich elites and need a bogeyman (immigrants, socialists, etc) to point at whilst they rob the people.  I don't think there is enough centre Republicans to make a challenge without the Trump loons, hence Kingmaker.

You could try to pull a centrist party from both Republicans and Democrats, but the rich will ask 'what's in it for us'

[Arpeggio]

Sometimes things are too interesting not to mention about the absolute bargain you've got here.

 

Joe Biden will give money to small business based on the color of people's skin (there are no poor white people apparently).

 

Biden CIA pick led secret 'back channel' negotiations for Iran deal

 

Pelosi names Eric Swalwell (who had relations with Chinese spy Christine Fang Fang) on impeachment team

 

Biden Personnel Chief Served At Chinese Intel Org Flagged By FBI For Recruiting Western Spies

 

Pelosi Refers To Herself As Wife, Mother On Floor After Elimination Of Gendered Family Terms In House Rules

 

Here are all the times elected representatives objected to the Electoral College results, as they did last Wednesday: -

1969 (Dems object)

2001 (Dems object)

2005 (Dems object)

2017 (Dems object)

But Republicans did it this year so it's obviously "iNcItInG a CoUp!" now.

Not quite at 260 concentration camps like in China, but might get there yet. This guys wants to put Trump supporters children in re-education camps apparently.

PS: The last bit is wrong. Deaths are overwhelmingly in Blue states, such as at 110,000 deaths it was about 90k in Blue 20k in Red.

Just ask Cuomo

Edited Wednesday at 09:22 PM by Arpeggio

[Arpeggio]

4 hours ago, wighty said:

If he's impeached then "you aint seen nothing yet" compared to 6th January.

If not he'll think he' gotten away with it and be even worse.

As above Eric Swalwell etc. In effect basically you are handing Trump over the China. You must be pleased with this no?

Pretty sure you are pleased, because if you are not pleased you might be put on a list and have your social credit score lowered. If you buy a pair of Nike trainers made from slave labor in Xinjiang China you might be able to boost it back up a bit though.

Nov. 29, 2020 Nike and Coca-Cola Lobby Against Xinjiang Forced Labor Bill

Edited Wednesday at 09:33 PM by Arpeggio

[rollover]

President Donald Trump is impeached

Trump now faces trial in the Senate.

What next?

[zugzwang]

Goodnight, Donnie!

 

Here are the ten House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump on the charge of incitement of insurrection:

• John Katko of New York.
• Liz Cheney of Wyoming.
• Adam Kinzinger of Illinois.
• Fred Upton of Michigan.
• Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington state.
• Dan Newhouse of Washington state.
• Peter Meijer of Michigan.
• Tom Rice of South Carolina.
• Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio.
• David Valadao of California.

The Republicans’ votes made this the most bipartisan presidential impeachment in history. In comparison, five Democrats voted to impeach Bill Clinton in 1998.

[Arpeggio]

10 minutes ago, zugzwang said:

Goodnight, Donnie!

 

Here are the ten House Republicans who voted to impeach Donald Trump on the charge of incitement of insurrection:

• John Katko of New York.
• Liz Cheney of Wyoming.
• Adam Kinzinger of Illinois.
• Fred Upton of Michigan.
• Jaime Herrera Beutler of Washington state.
• Dan Newhouse of Washington state.
• Peter Meijer of Michigan.
• Tom Rice of South Carolina.
• Anthony Gonzalez of Ohio.
• David Valadao of California.

The Republicans’ votes made this the most bipartisan presidential impeachment in history. In comparison, five Democrats voted to impeach Bill Clinton in 1998.

Surprised Gov. Kemp isn't on there with his links to China. It's not Bipartisan, both parties are largely the same.

[wighty]

43 minutes ago, Arpeggio said:

As above Eric Swalwell etc. In effect basically you are handing Trump over the China. You must be pleased with this no?

Pretty sure you are pleased, because if you are not pleased you might be put on a list and have your social credit score lowered. If you buy a pair of Nike trainers made from slave labor in Xinjiang China you might be able to boost it back up a bit though.

Nov. 29, 2020 Nike and Coca-Cola Lobby Against Xinjiang Forced Labor Bill

What cr@p are you spouting now?.

Anyway thought you'd be on the way to Washington to join the mob.

BTW - Trump hasn't srarted any wars you say - he's started one now, in the US

[Arpeggio]

2 minutes ago, wighty said:

What cr@p are you spouting now?.

Facts. Look them up.

2 minutes ago, wighty said:

Anyway thought you'd be on the way to Washington to join the mob.

Yet Trump has ordered the emergency declaration for the military to be in these areas.

?

[mrlegend123]

trump seen off again..........left wingers helped by MSM are scared and will do anything to push their agenda. US will get what they voted for.....

[Arpeggio]

3 minutes ago, mrlegend123 said:

trump seen off again..........left wingers helped by MSM are scared and will do anything to push their agenda. US will get what they voted for.....

It could go 1 of 3 ways IMO.

If Trump is "in on it" it would have been an absurdly advanced operation with many players in co-ordination that is so impressive I will willfully walk into a Gulag, take my hat off and ask my cellmate wighty what kind of card games he likes.

Edited Wednesday at 10:30 PM by Arpeggio
I meant 3 ways

[wighty]

4 minutes ago, Arpeggio said:

Facts. Look them up.

Yet Trump has ordered the emergency declaration for the military to be in these areas.

?

You mean nonsensical opinion masquerading as fact.

[Arpeggio]

2 minutes ago, wighty said:

You mean nonsensical opinion masquerading as fact.

There's a bunch of links I posted in an above post they are not hard to miss.

So you like Snap? I can do snap. Maybe something more advanced like Poker or something?

[mrlegend123]

5 minutes ago, Arpeggio said:

It could go 1 of 3 ways IMO.

5 minutes ago, Arpeggio said:

It could go 1 of 4 ways IMO.

US civil war to sort it out o.j

a lot of people hate trump but when you ask them why? they can't state a reason and resort to insults. it's pure brain washing of the MSM. 

he was the last defender of capitalism before the global reset takes place, being UN agenda 2030.

research behind the scenes on what is really going on.

 

 

[zugzwang]

Just now, mrlegend123 said:

US civil war to sort it out o.j

a lot of people hate trump but when you ask them why? they can't state a reason and resort to insults. it's pure brain washing of the MSM. 

he was the last defender of capitalism before the global reset takes place, being UN agenda 2030.

research behind the scenes on what is really going on.

 

 

How much 'research' do you need to do to work out that he was no bloody good?

 

The last defender of rentier capitalism.

Lived every day off his slumlord papi's dime.

Failed at everything he ever turned his hand to.

Put the national debt up by a third in just four years!

Built a pile of Covid bones to the Moon.

Lost a trade war with China.

Fomented a race war.

Staged an insurrection against the Capitol.

The only American President to be impeached twice.

 

 

[IMHAL]

3 minutes ago, zugzwang said:

How much 'research' do you need to do to work out that he was no bloody good?

 

The last defender of rentier capitalism.

Lived every day off his slumlord papi's dime.

Failed at everything he ever turned his hand to.

Put the national debt up by a third in just four years!

Built a pile of Covid bones to the Moon.

Lost a trade war with China.

Fomented a race war.

Staged an insurrection against the Capitol.

The only American President to be impeached twice.

 

 

That's a fine list of achievments right there

 

[Arpeggio]

1 minute ago, mrlegend123 said:

US civil war to sort it out o.j

Civil war is one (undesirable) possibility.

1 minute ago, mrlegend123 said:

a lot of people hate trump but when you ask them why? they can't state a reason and resort to insults. it's pure brain washing of the MSM.

I know, I've seen that too. Ask them what policies and they go blank.

[Arpeggio]

6 minutes ago, zugzwang said:

How much 'research' do you need to do to work out that he was no bloody good?

The last defender of rentier capitalism.

Lived every day off his slumlord papi's dime.

Failed at everything he ever turned his hand to.

Put the national debt up by a third in just four years!

Built a pile of Covid bones to the Moon.

Lost a trade war with China.

Fomented a race war.

Staged an insurrection against the Capitol.

The only American President to be impeached twice.

.....Keep repeating it often enough

As far as debt, he stopped 30 million going to Venezuela in the last COVID rescue package to name one of many things (such as 10 million to Pakistan for Gender awareness).

It doesn't matter what he does, he will always be a racist to you. The race war is just projection from people like you who only watch MSM and don't want to look at anything else. Trump releases 3,000 people from prison, many of them black (91%), where's the press?

[mrlegend123]

1 minute ago, Arpeggio said:

Civil war is one (undesirable) possibility.

I know, I've seen that too. Ask them what policies and they go blank.

I know, see above comments talking about his failures (anti-trump opinions). 

rentier capitalism is UN agenda 2030.......more background reading please

The US has been paying for China's project for the last 30 years. Trump recognised this and China started dumping Ts in 2016. China has been using US by selling goods to US (US is 70% services) paid in dollars and China has used the dollars to buy US debt which they started to sell in 2016.

Why has national debt increased? it was not trumps fault. think about the dollar in relation to other currencies. 

bloke in the street does not know the bigger picture 

 

 

[longgone]

22 minutes ago, zugzwang said:

How much 'research' do you need to do to work out that he was no bloody good?

 

The last defender of rentier capitalism.

Lived every day off his slumlord papi's dime.

Failed at everything he ever turned his hand to.

Put the national debt up by a third in just four years!

Built a pile of Covid bones to the Moon.

Lost a trade war with China.

Fomented a race war.

Staged an insurrection against the Capitol.

The only American President to be impeached twice.

 

 

Bet you will never forget him though.

Unforgettable

[Chunketh]

11 minutes ago, mrlegend123 said:

I know, see above comments talking about his failures (anti-trump opinions). 

rentier capitalism is UN agenda 2030.......more background reading please

The US has been paying for China's project for the last 30 years. Trump recognised this and China started dumping Ts in 2016. China has been using US by selling goods to US (US is 70% services) paid in dollars and China has used the dollars to buy US debt which they started to sell in 2016.

Why has national debt increased? it was not trumps fault. think about the dollar in relation to other currencies. 

bloke in the street does not know the bigger picture 

 

 

Well to address that, lets have a starter for 10.

Incited an insurrection, withdrew from Paris accord, normalised stupidity, withdrew from the INF

Edited Wednesday at 11:16 PM by Chunketh

[Chunketh]

I guess the question now is, will this get Senate support. Bit of a pointless exercise if it doesn't.