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New homes to get 'automatic' permission in England planning shake-up

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53625960

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New homes and hospitals will be granted "automatic" permission to be built as part of sweeping planning reforms in England, the housing secretary says.

Robert Jenrick announced a "permission in principle" will be given to developments on land designated "for renewal" to speed-up building.

It comes after the PM pledged £5bn to "build, build, build".

Shelter has warned against any reforms that lead to small amounts of "bad-quality" housing.

The homeless charity has said 280,000 homes received permission in England between 2011 and 2016 but were never built.

Writing in the Sunday Telegraph, Mr Jenrick said that, under the new rules, land will be designated in one of three categories: for growth, for renewal and for protection.

And he insisted: "We are cutting red tape, but not standards."

The changes being brought forward this week are expected to only impact England, as national planning policy is devolved to administrations in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.

 

Too little too late again imo, and many of these homes will be of poor quality.

 MMC / Modular / off site homes are not being built fast enough.

  I suspect we will see mass homelessness as I suggest on this Hpc thread when eviction ban is lifted this month & Furlough eventually ends, although that may be a while away ...

Extend UK furlough subsidies to avoid mass job losses, Labour urges

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/01/extend-furlough-subsidies-or-suffer-mass-job-losses-uk-warned  

But in the US ..

Congress leaves town without a coronavirus stimulus deal, allowing $600 unemployment benefit to end

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/07/31/coronavirus-stimulus-trump-pelosi-cast-blame-unemployment-ends/5554365002/ 

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Housebuilders risk being thrown into uncertainty as they scramble to figure out how the new system works, just as the construction industry is facing a huge economic downturn.

It could inadvertently put the frighteners on developers building new homes.

https://twitter.com/Shelter

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-53625960

UK aims to speed up housebuilding with some 'automatic' approval

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-housing/uk-aims-to-speed-up-housebuilding-with-some-automatic-approval-idUSKBN24Y08H

Turning John Lewis into flats is lovely window-dressing but we need houses too ( related to article below)

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/turning-john-lewis-into-flats-is-lovely-window-dressing-but-we-need-houses-too-jfsvxx9hw

John Lewis plan to turn empty shops into homes

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/white-unveils-her-radical-plan-to-revive-john-lewis-q7q3cljmv

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38 minutes ago, Brave New World said:

Wholly incorrect. The most shrill noise will be heard coming from the boomer Boris brexit mob. 

Hilarious levels of irony in this news.

It made me laugh. The NIMBYs round here are most certainly not communists!

 

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Daily mail NIMBYs are absolutely losing.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8584489/Robert-Jenrick-reveals-plans-slash-red-tape-hand-automatic-approval-hospitals-schools.html

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Solisoccasum1, Asgard, United Kingdom, 12 hours ago

Absolutely disgusting, How vile and sickening of the TORY party to do this, The Government gave control of Councils to the people only to take it away and force the concreting over of Countryside and green fields to home immigrants that we do not want or need in this Country. We are already overpopulated and instead of kicking out all the illegals we have our green sites rolling hills and what little we have of scenery torn up and turned into concrete jungles to house them all!!! This is outrageous and I stupidly believed I was voting in Tories not left wing bleeding hearts!! Never again Boris do you hear!!, you were to stop Immigration not encourage it, you lied big time!!"

This will never get implemented

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Those are the VI's

2 hours ago, Brave New World said:

Wholly incorrect. The most shrill noise will be heard coming from the boomer Boris brexit mob. 

Hilarious levels of irony in this news.

yes. Those are amongst the VI's. Which is why they got top billing in my post.

But pop along to reddit to see how while council houses are attractive well built works of art that float a few feet over ground upon which nothing has ever grown, houses for private sale don't and are therefore bad. (apparently the planning system also ensures quality which is why the country with the most onerous and legally empowered planning system on earth has such enviable housing outcomes.)

To me that is much more amusing as they are all in rental.

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16 hours ago, AAA said:

Planning system is an instrument to sqeeze money from the working people while keeping riches richer and happier.

This. Abolish planning permission entirely.

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On 02/08/2020 at 05:17, Saving For a Space Ship said:

Too little too late again imo, and many of these homes will be of poor quality...

Yep. All else equal means higher land and housing prices resulting from lower planning risk, and lower quality buildings. Will make zero difference to total future supply. Just more money for land owners and volume developers (land price speculators).

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Useless promise.

However, fun to create mischief.  Put a planning request into build 'HMO for Immigrant refugees' in NIMBY hotspot. 

Maybe increase the number of probates :)

 

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29 minutes ago, longgone said:

i have been on the self build register for for nearly a decade and never had contact once apart from would i like to stay on it. 

planning is no good without land 

Ditto

IS the self build lobby crap

? perhaps drowned out by the construction big boys 

The 'All about self-build' hpc forum could do with a bit of a boost  

https://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/forum/73-all-about-self-build/

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5 hours ago, longgone said:

i have been on the self build register for for nearly a decade and never had contact once apart from would i like to stay on it. 

planning is no good without land 

We finally were offered a plot at a site in Brookland, Kent - cheapest plot £160K https://www.invictaselfbuild.com/project/brookland/https://www.invictaselfbuild.com/project/brookland/

No thanks.

 

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4 hours ago, Longtermrenter said:

We finally were offered a plot at a site in Brookland, Kent - cheapest plot £160K https://www.invictaselfbuild.com/project/brookland/https://www.invictaselfbuild.com/project/brookland/

No thanks.

 

QED it isn't the price of houses it's the price of land with a certificate saying you can build on it that's the problem. Having said that £160k for a building plot with no demolition costs and services already attached isn't bad. 

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11 hours ago, Saving For a Space Ship said:

Ditto

IS the self build lobby crap

? perhaps drowned out by the construction big boys 

The 'All about self-build' hpc forum could do with a bit of a boost  

https://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/index.php?/forum/73-all-about-self-build/

its just lip service. they will never provide plots. not anywhere desirable anyway. 

7 hours ago, Longtermrenter said:

We finally were offered a plot at a site in Brookland, Kent - cheapest plot £160K https://www.invictaselfbuild.com/project/brookland/https://www.invictaselfbuild.com/project/brookland/

No thanks.

 

i assume you can build a detached place on it.  so probably around 400k-450k with land cost. is that good for the area ?

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6 hours ago, longgone said:

its just lip service. they will never provide plots. not anywhere desirable anyway. 

Correct. The usual government marketing, never intended to make a difference. Contact your local council and ask how many plots have been made available by the self build register that the government advertised would help us.

Mine was at zero last I checked.

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2 hours ago, dugsbody said:

Correct. The usual government marketing, never intended to make a difference. Contact your local council and ask how many plots have been made available by the self build register that the government advertised would help us.

Mine was at zero last I checked.

Zero in my local authority too. From 2016 to 2020. Edit: zero total with respect to any obligation under the 2015 (amended) Act.

But thousands of new and planned builds by Barrat, Persimmon, Bovis, Taylor Wimpey, Kier.

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18 hours ago, Longtermrenter said:

We finally were offered a plot at a site in Brookland, Kent - cheapest plot £160K

On the bright side you now know the exact cash value of the property rights the Attlee government took from you.

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7 hours ago, dugsbody said:

Correct. The usual government marketing, never intended to make a difference. Contact your local council and ask how many plots have been made available by the self build register that the government advertised would help us.

Mine was at zero last I checked.

was that a foi request ?

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