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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/05/slums-of-the-future-may-spring-from-relaxed-uk-planning-rules-experts-warn

Of course they will. Silly proles, thinking they deserved anything more! But the Tories simply have to pay back their developer buddies...

 

‘Slums of the future’ may spring from relaxed UK planning rules, experts warn

‘Rabbit-hutch’ flats could be crammed into repurposed office spaces

Thousands of tiny, substandard “rabbit-hutch” flats could be created in commercial buildings left empty by the coronavirus economic slowdown under planning reforms championed by Boris Johnson.

University College London professor Ben Clifford - who recently completed a government review of housing produced outside the conventional planning system - said allowing developers to turn a wider range of commercial properties into flats without planning checks could lead to a wave of substandard conversions.

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2 hours ago, PeanutButter said:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/jul/05/slums-of-the-future-may-spring-from-relaxed-uk-planning-rules-experts-warn

Of course they will. Silly proles, thinking they deserved anything more! But the Tories simply have to pay back their developer buddies...

 

‘Slums of the future’ may spring from relaxed UK planning rules, experts warn

‘Rabbit-hutch’ flats could be crammed into repurposed office spaces

Thousands of tiny, substandard “rabbit-hutch” flats could be created in commercial buildings left empty by the coronavirus economic slowdown under planning reforms championed by Boris Johnson.

University College London professor Ben Clifford - who recently completed a government review of housing produced outside the conventional planning system - said allowing developers to turn a wider range of commercial properties into flats without planning checks could lead to a wave of substandard conversions.

Near where I live there is one such office conversion scheme - converting an old job centre into 30 new one bed flats. When you watch the shockingly slow pace for a simple conversion it’s not surprising we have a housing crisis!

What do we need more of at present - job centres for the millions soon to be on the dole or another 30 shoe box one bed flats?!

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Naturally the communist Guardian thinks the creation of more private housing is  a bad thing. b*****ds.

 

 

better no housing eh? leave them empty?

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6 minutes ago, Oki said:

Naturally the communist Guardian thinks the creation of more private housing is  a bad thing. b*****ds.

 

 

better no housing eh? leave them empty?

We also need jobs too as otherwise no one can afford the housing!

Losing office and retail space for more pokey one bed flats may not be a good trade off.

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4 minutes ago, Oki said:

Naturally the communist Guardian thinks the creation of more private housing is  a bad thing. b*****ds.

 

 

better no housing eh? leave them empty?

All this means is hurry up and finish off the on going projects before it all goes south. 

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This type of housing already exists except, I believe, it currently circumvents building/standards regs. by being temporary accommodation - old industrial estate units used to house homeless and those in desperate need. I recall something I saw on the news maybe 18 months ago about a pregnant woman who was housed in one such place in East London (Stratford I think). Woman went into contractions or whatever they call it and called an ambulance but due to confusion about the address with the ambulance crew thinking "nah, that address can't be right no one is living in that derelict industrial area". This caused a significant delay in the ambulance arriving and by the time it did the woman had given birth on the car park tarmac outside and the baby never survived. Don't wish to dangle an emotive reaction, but you know..

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1 hour ago, smash said:

This type of housing already exists except, I believe, it currently circumvents building/standards regs. by being temporary accommodation

It does, developers can already convert offices to tiny flats with no planning permission.  I forgot the reason why, but I didn't think its  because they are temporary.

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2 hours ago, Oki said:

Naturally the communist Guardian thinks the creation of more private housing is  a bad thing. b*****ds.

 

 

better no housing eh? leave them empty?

“Communist” LMAOOOOOO :D 

A cursory glance shows the Guardian sells online dating, books, earns via links to clothes, masterclasses and so forth. Vvvewwy capitalist.

But do go ahead and buy one of the office conversions. I’d love to see inside!

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2 hours ago, Oki said:

Naturally the communist Guardian thinks the creation of more private housing is  a bad thing. b*****ds. 

The Guardian did their level best to sabotage Labour's election chances last year. Far from communist, more like metropolitan centrists. 

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1 hour ago, Peter Hun said:

It does, developers can already convert offices to tiny flats with no planning permission.  I forgot the reason why, but I didn't think its  because they are temporary.

Private sales don't need to be temporary. 

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I watched a documentary about this. These blocks end up as bedsits with kitchenette and bathroom crammed in, owned by a private company to take money from the council. The business model is after a certain number of years profit is made before they start to fall apart. Nobody wins from this except company running it. Taxpayer pays over the odds with zero assets at the end. The residents live in overcrowded shoddy slums. Build quality and space so poor they cant even be sold as homes to people in years to come. Will just be pulled down. 

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16 hours ago, Oki said:

Naturally the communist Guardian thinks the creation of more private housing is  a bad thing. b*****ds.

Certainly leftist and socialist.  They hate the idea that some people have more money than others and think that anyone who earns  a good living should be looked at with contempt.  

16 hours ago, winkie said:

People tend to buy homes only if they think someone will later buy it from them for more....;)

I do not think so.  I think going back to 2014-16 a lot of folk bought then as prices were incensing rapidly and it was  a defensive move to buy something before prices rose to a level where they would not be able to do so. 

Since 2016 prices have not gone up so very few will have bought thinking they are going to see huge capital growth.  Indeed if the price of the home goes up so will the price of the next one so there is not any real gain at all.  

I think most people who buy would just prefer to own their own home and prefer not to pay money to a landlord.  

14 hours ago, PeanutButter said:

But do go ahead and buy one of the office conversions. I’d love to see inside!

If you do not like then do not buy one.  

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1 hour ago, richmondtw said:

Certainly leftist and socialist.  They hate the idea that some people have more money than others and think that anyone who earns  a good living should be looked at with contempt.  

I think most people who buy would just prefer to own their own home and prefer not to pay money to a landlord.  

If you do not like then do not buy one.  

Yes yes I won’t because I have enough money to be discerning. I won’t stop talking about developers and their Tory cronies taking advantage of desperate people by convincing them these dead end protocoffins are in any way a good investment for themselves or the public at large.

Decent homes for working folk that don’t cost the earth. It shouldn’t be a contentious view at all.

The Guardian is pseudo-socialist at best. It’s written in the main by extremely privileged people. As for leftist, odd reaction don’t you think?4055C61F-ADFC-40CB-84AE-5AA3648A3320.jpeg.dd0c62762c80f1008fa74e124c8d4a5b.jpeg...

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15 hours ago, nothernsoul said:

I watched a documentary about this. These blocks end up as bedsits with kitchenette and bathroom crammed in, owned by a private company to take money from the council. The business model is after a certain number of years profit is made before they start to fall apart. Nobody wins from this except company running it. Taxpayer pays over the odds with zero assets at the end. The residents live in overcrowded shoddy slums. Build quality and space so poor they cant even be sold as homes to people in years to come. Will just be pulled down. 

vid stories from homeless families in converted industrial units

a search for 'uk office block conversion flat ' brings up a lot of would be developer 'advice' vids 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uk+office+block+conversion+flat+  

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20 hours ago, Saving For a Space Ship said:

vid stories from homeless families in converted industrial units

a search for 'uk office block conversion flat ' brings up a lot of would be developer 'advice' vids 

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=uk+office+block+conversion+flat+  

Exactly. And it goes through with full Tory backing and plenty of ‘coincidental’ donations. 

We’ve voted in a party that is living in the pockets of developers. Corruption at its worst.

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